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Hoping someone may be able to offer a little bit of constructive advice. I have a Full HD Sony 32inch TV, Which I use (quite happily) for my gaming pc, ps4 slim and xb1s (the slim will be upgraded …
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1m, 3w agoPosted 1 month, 3 weeks ago
Hoping someone may be able to offer a little bit of constructive advice.

I have a Full HD Sony 32inch TV, Which I use (quite happily) for my gaming pc, ps4 slim and xb1s (the slim will be upgraded to a pro at some point).

I'd like a 4K screen, and have searched for ages.

I've learnt that a 4K TV in this size area, will be cheaper than a PC sized counterpart, and understand (most) of the reasons why, but feel I'd be happy with a TV, as having a remote for my screen I find useful.

A 40inch screen will be too big for the area I use it in, 32inch would be as large as I can comfortably accommodate,

I've found some very nice 40inch 4k TV screens, but decided not to be stupid, as I know I'd regret the purchase.

I understand many play on screens smaller than 32inch, but for me, it's optimal (way too much detail to go into).

I don't want to be spending a huge amount, and would be happy to dip my toes in with a budget 4k screen that will be suitable for gaming, won't be used as a TV at all, so SMART features etc don't need to be catered for.

any advice or pointers please?
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1m, 3w agoPosted 1 month, 3 weeks ago
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I dont think any of the consoles can play games in 4K, although the PS's will play 4K films at the full 4K.

So you want a screen the upscales 1080p, and one that does a good job of the upscaling. I personally think the LGs do the best upscaling, but other people will say other things, a lot of the cheap no-name brand have terrible upscaling.

You will also be limited to a max of 60FPS, as there are no 4K TVs that can display a 4K image faster than that (although some can handle over 100 FPS @ 1080).
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Gentle_Giant
I dont think any of the consoles can play games in 4K, although the PS's will play 4K films at the full 4K.
So you want a screen the upscales 1080p, and one that does a good job of the upscaling. I personally think the LGs do the best upscaling, but other people will say other things, a lot of the cheap no-name brand have terrible upscaling.
You will also be limited to a max of 60FPS, as there are no 4K TVs that can display a 4K image faster than that (although some can handle over 100 FPS @ 1080).


The PS4 PRO is actually capable of rendering at 4K, and the Xbox Scorpio next year will be able to as well so I would still get a 4K screen.

OP, what kinda budget are you on?
#3
Budget is open is at the moment, if upgrade price ends up proving roo high, I'll stick with the Sony (for now).
(4K 40inch TVs i have looked at so far have been up to 450, but I'd like to step in lower)
#4
"It's worth making especially clear here however, is that PS4 Pro isn’t capable of outputting native 4K for all games – every title that supports 4K Pro Mode at this point has been upscaled to that resolution. "

Just found that, although it says 4K games will come.

However, I am confused, the specs for the Pro dont look all that hot VRAM-wise, my gfx has more VRAM, yet isnt even rated for 2K, let alone 4K output (and the lack of 4Gb Ram is the limiter, lower spec cards with more RAM are listed as 4K)

Is this going to be 4K interlaced??

Another thought on the TV front, make sure the TV has a HDMI v2 input rated for 4K @ 60Hz, a lot are HDMI v1.4 and only rated at 30Hz.
#5
Gentle_Giant
"It's worth making especially clear here however, is that PS4 Pro isn’t capable of outputting native 4K for all games – every title that supports 4K Pro Mode at this point has been upscaled to that resolution. "

Just found that, although it says 4K games will come.

However, I am confused, the specs for the Pro dont look all that hot VRAM-wise, my gfx has more VRAM, yet isnt even rated for 2K, let alone 4K output (and the lack of 4Gb Ram is the limiter, lower spec cards with more RAM are listed as 4K)

Is this going to be 4K interlaced??

Another thought on the TV front, make sure the TV has a HDMI v2 input rated for 4K @ 60Hz, a lot are HDMI v1.4 and only rated at 30Hz.


​Re the HDMI info, thank you, I wasn't overly aware of this :)
#6
Gentle_Giant
However, I am confused, the specs for the Pro dont look all that hot VRAM-wise, my gfx has more VRAM, yet isnt even rated for 2K, let alone 4K output (and the lack of 4Gb Ram is the limiter, lower spec cards with more RAM are listed as 4K)

Video memory isn't a limit in technical terms. You need a couple of hundred megabytes for the frame buffers which are essential, but beyond that it's all game assets so it's up to game developers how large they make the stuff and it varies between games.

Gentle_Giant
Another thought on the TV front, make sure the TV has a HDMI v2 input rated for 4K @ 60Hz, a lot are HDMI v1.4 and only rated at 30Hz.

'A lot'? I can't think of a single TV or monitor released this year without an HDMI 2.0 input. There are still some models from last year or the year before on the market so if you dig you might find one or two. It's something to be aware of, but it's certainly not the widespread issue you're implying.

burgyuk
I have a Full HD Sony 32inch TV, Which I use (quite happily) for my gaming pc, ps4 slim and xb1s (the slim will be upgraded to a pro at some point).
I'd like a 4K screen, and have searched for ages.

If you're happy with your current screen then I wouldn't upgrade this year. Wait a year or two and you'll be able to pick up something with variable refresh rate and partial HDR support within budget, both of which are at least as noticable an improvement as 4k, and a lot easier for gaming hardware to run.

Edited By: EndlessWaves on Dec 28, 2016 12:15
#7
EndlessWaves
Gentle_Giant
However, I am confused, the specs for the Pro dont look all that hot VRAM-wise, my gfx has more VRAM, yet isnt even rated for 2K, let alone 4K output (and the lack of 4Gb Ram is the limiter, lower spec cards with more RAM are listed as 4K)
Video memory isn't a limit in technical terms. You need a couple of hundred megabytes for the frame buffers which are essential, but beyond that it's all game assets so it's up to game developers how large they make the stuff and it varies between games.
Gentle_Giant
Another thought on the TV front, make sure the TV has a HDMI v2 input rated for 4K @ 60Hz, a lot are HDMI v1.4 and only rated at 30Hz.
'A lot'? I can't think of a single TV or monitor released this year without an HDMI 2.0 input. There are still some models from last year or the year before on the market so if you dig you might find one or two. It's something to be aware of, but it's certainly not the widespread issue you're implying.
burgyuk
I have a Full HD Sony 32inch TV, Which I use (quite happily) for my gaming pc, ps4 slim and xb1s (the slim will be upgraded to a pro at some point).
I'd like a 4K screen, and have searched for ages.
If you're happy with your current screen then I wouldn't upgrade this year. Wait a year or two and you'll be able to pick up something with variable refresh rate and partial HDR support within budget, both of which are at least as noticable an improvement as 4k, and a lot easier for gaming hardware to run.

A lot of the TVs in the sales are older models that they havent been able to sell; one refurbished model I saw last week was released in 2008.........
#8
EndlessWaves
Gentle_Giant
However, I am confused, the specs for the Pro dont look all that hot VRAM-wise, my gfx has more VRAM, yet isnt even rated for 2K, let alone 4K output (and the lack of 4Gb Ram is the limiter, lower spec cards with more RAM are listed as 4K)

Video memory isn't a limit in technical terms. You need a couple of hundred megabytes for the frame buffers which are essential, but beyond that it's all game assets so it's up to game developers how large they make the stuff and it varies between games.

Gentle_Giant
Another thought on the TV front, make sure the TV has a HDMI v2 input rated for 4K @ 60Hz, a lot are HDMI v1.4 and only rated at 30Hz.

'A lot'? I can't think of a single TV or monitor released this year without an HDMI 2.0 input. There are still some models from last year or the year before on the market so if you dig you might find one or two. It's something to be aware of, but it's certainly not the widespread issue you're implying.

burgyuk
I have a Full HD Sony 32inch TV, Which I use (quite happily) for my gaming pc, ps4 slim and xb1s (the slim will be upgraded to a pro at some point).
I'd like a 4K screen, and have searched for ages.

If you're happy with your current screen then I wouldn't upgrade this year. Wait a year or two and you'll be able to pick up something with variable refresh rate and partial HDR support within budget, both of which are at least as noticable an improvement as 4k, and a lot easier for gaming hardware to run.


​Thank you

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