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is a child's weight really the government's problem? Or should parents be shouldering the blame for obesity?

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So I watched a bit of This morning and saw Liz Thomson interview re: the govt report on tackling obesity. She claimed hers and her daughter's weight has always been a struggle. With secret snackin… Read More
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8m, 6d agoPosted 8 months, 6 days ago
So I watched a bit of This morning and saw Liz Thomson interview re: the govt report on tackling obesity.

She claimed hers and her daughter's weight has always been a struggle. With secret snacking, binge eating and low self-esteem and it wasn't her fault but the governments and the NHS and seemed to want some magic pill to cure her slack parenting.

Had to laugh when Liz said her daughter comfort ate due to bullies, and the Nutritionist basically said she aint munching carrots, your buying the junk food so its your fault.

So is this the parents fault or the governments problem to deal with?
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8m, 6d agoPosted 8 months, 6 days ago
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Parents all the way! I control what my kids eat and how much exercise they get per day

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#1
Government can bring laws (which they are rightly doing) but it's entirely parents responsibility.
#2
Parents.
#3
Parents all the way! I control what my kids eat and how much exercise they get per day
#4
westy125
Parents all the way! I control what my kids eat and how much exercise they get per day

Nods across the internet at some sensible parenting, people like you give me hope for this country.
#5
Parents.Having obese children is neglect.
#6
Regardless of who is to blame, it's definitely the government's responsibility (as well), since the costs of increased medical treatment brought on by obesity is (in this country) going to be borne by the taxpayer. Given the fact that the population in developed countries is becoming more and more obese, and that obesity is proven to increase healthcare costs, it would be irresponsible for any government to not address a trend that will increase costs in the future.
#7
Muir
Regardless of who is to blame, it's definitely the government's responsibility (as well), since the costs of increased medical treatment brought on by obesity is (in this country) going to be borne by the taxpayer. Given the fact that the population in developed countries is becoming more and more obese, and that obesity is proven to increase healthcare costs, it would be irresponsible for any government to not address a trend that will increase costs in the future.

Valid point so both.
#8
Agree with Muir (can't seem to reply to the post). The government allows all kinds of additives & unnecessary ingredients for companies to make "fake" food to make huge profits so why shouldn't they foot the bill & take the blame. If you look at the cost of fruit & veg compared to the 90s it's way above what it should be. Therefore the poorer feel they have no choice but to eat the package crap.
#9
Saro
Agree with Muir (can't seem to reply to the post). The government allows all kinds of additives & unnecessary ingredients for companies to make "fake" food to make huge profits so why shouldn't they foot the bill & take the blame. If you look at the cost of fruit & veg compared to the 90s it's way above what it should be. Therefore the poorer feel they have no choice but to eat the package crap.

bananas are still cheaper than Mars Bars though
#10
People need to realise your mouth is bigger than the exit hole oO
#11
aau1
Saro
Agree with Muir (can't seem to reply to the post). The government allows all kinds of additives & unnecessary ingredients for companies to make "fake" food to make huge profits so why shouldn't they foot the bill & take the blame. If you look at the cost of fruit & veg compared to the 90s it's way above what it should be. Therefore the poorer feel they have no choice but to eat the package crap.

And rich in potassium to.
bananas are still cheaper than Mars Bars though
#12
aau1
Saro
Agree with Muir (can't seem to reply to the post). The government allows all kinds of additives & unnecessary ingredients for companies to make "fake" food to make huge profits so why shouldn't they foot the bill & take the blame. If you look at the cost of fruit & veg compared to the 90s it's way above what it should be. Therefore the poorer feel they have no choice but to eat the package crap.
bananas are still cheaper than Mars Bars though

Very true, but it takes some self control to walk past the chocolate and buy fruit which some people seem unable to do. I like mars bars, but work in an office have an aversion to exercise so I have to use some self control otherwise I would be much bigger than what I am.

Am not convinced its the governments responsibility, I would prefer they spent the money on education rather than adding tax to sugary drinks.
#13
landros1
Parents.Having obese children is neglect.


Whilst it is 100 percent the parents responsibility its hardly neglect. Some kids are just more susceptible to being fat. My kids are both pretty skinny partly due to them getting decent meals partly due to luck
#14
> So is this the parents fault or the governments problem to deal with?

Parents first, and then the government.

Part of the government's job is to provide a safety net for people who can't look after themselves, for whatever reason. The parents of this child have obviously failed, and aren't competent enough to look after her, so it becomes the government's responsibility to ensure that she's fed properly and kept healthy. We pay our taxes so that this girl can stand a chance of growing up to be in a better, healthier position than her parents, who are probably in the situation they're in because their parents failed them too.
#15
dxx
> So is this the parents fault or the governments problem to deal with?

Parents first, and then the government.

Part of the government's job is to provide a safety net for people who can't look after themselves, for whatever reason. The parents of this child have obviously failed, and aren't competent enough to look after her, so it becomes the government's responsibility to ensure that she's fed properly and kept healthy. We pay our taxes so that this girl can stand a chance of growing up to be in a better, healthier position than her parents, who are probably in the situation they're in because their parents failed them too.


It's not the parents. Its the government letting unscrupulous and dishonest food manufactuers sell chemical and sugar full food to kids. Food with additives which come with warning in foreign countries does not need warning in UK. Children are surrounded with rubbish food. Five a day should not mean five times the sugar content like in innocent smoothies.
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DKLS
aau1
Saro
Agree with Muir (can't seem to reply to the post). The government allows all kinds of additives & unnecessary ingredients for companies to make "fake" food to make huge profits so why shouldn't they foot the bill & take the blame. If you look at the cost of fruit & veg compared to the 90s it's way above what it should be. Therefore the poorer feel they have no choice but to eat the package crap.
bananas are still cheaper than Mars Bars though

Very true, but it takes some self control to walk past the chocolate and buy fruit which some people seem unable to do. I like mars bars, but work in an office have an aversion to exercise so I have to use some self control otherwise I would be much bigger than what I am.

Am not convinced its the governments responsibility, I would prefer they spent the money on education rather than adding tax to sugary drinks.


You do realise they are earning money on the sugar tax. Not spending it.
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sam_of_london
dxx
> So is this the parents fault or the governments problem to deal with?
Parents first, and then the government.
Part of the government's job is to provide a safety net for people who can't look after themselves, for whatever reason. The parents of this child have obviously failed, and aren't competent enough to look after her, so it becomes the government's responsibility to ensure that she's fed properly and kept healthy. We pay our taxes so that this girl can stand a chance of growing up to be in a better, healthier position than her parents, who are probably in the situation they're in because their parents failed them too.
It's not the parents. Its the government letting unscrupulous and dishonest food manufactuers sell chemical and sugar full food to kids. Food with additives which come with warning in foreign countries does not need warning in UK. Children are surrounded with rubbish food. Five a day should not mean five times the sugar content like in innocent smoothies.

Can you cite examples of that? The only thing I'm aware of that fits under that category is Red Bull, and its various imitations.
#18
Just look at sugar, artificial flavour enhancers, preservatives and colours in children, s food. MSG which comes with warning in other countries , does not need it in UK. Food full of sugar like juice and smoothies like Innocent and lucozade are declared healthy and one of five a day when all they contain is sugar. Fruit shoot and coke have so many chemicals but considered safe for children. Jamie Oliver is right but the government will bow under the pressure of the dishonest cheats in the food industry and water down the guarantee tax.
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TheRatedSeller
DKLS
aau1
Saro
Agree with Muir (can't seem to reply to the post). The government allows all kinds of additives & unnecessary ingredients for companies to make "fake" food to make huge profits so why shouldn't they foot the bill & take the blame. If you look at the cost of fruit & veg compared to the 90s it's way above what it should be. Therefore the poorer feel they have no choice but to eat the package crap.
bananas are still cheaper than Mars Bars though
Very true, but it takes some self control to walk past the chocolate and buy fruit which some people seem unable to do. I like mars bars, but work in an office have an aversion to exercise so I have to use some self control otherwise I would be much bigger than what I am.
Am not convinced its the governments responsibility, I would prefer they spent the money on education rather than adding tax to sugary drinks.
You do realise they are earning money on the sugar tax. Not spending it.

I hope so, we need to make a dent into the deficit.
#20
Parents, I must admit I'm the one who tries to spoil my son and the wife says no.

He does go to sports club in the holidays and extra sports activities like Tennis, Dodgeball and we have signed him up to swimming so he has a chance to burn off the calories.

He is slim though and we do talk to him about calories and healthy foods.

Kids need a balance and teaching about foods and their effects on the body.

No food is bad its the ratio that is.
banned#21
Idiotic question. Parents obviously.
#22
sam_of_london
Just look at sugar, artificial flavour enhancers, preservatives and colours in children, s food. MSG which comes with warning in other countries , does not need it in UK. Food full of sugar like juice and smoothies like Innocent and lucozade are declared healthy and one of five a day when all they contain is sugar. Fruit shoot and coke have so many chemicals but considered safe for children. Jamie Oliver is right but the government will bow under the pressure of the dishonest cheats in the food industry and water down the guarantee tax.


Literally every substance in the world has chemicals in it. oO

Apples have arsenic. The misuse of the word chemical by the general public is staggering.

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