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Is there a way to watch sky in another room without subscribing to Sky Multiroom?

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2y, 11m agoPosted 2 years, 11 months ago
Hi,

We just upgraded to Sky+HD and the problem we have is on our old Sky box we used to be able to watch Sky on another TV in another room for free but we couldn't change the channel or anything we had to do that from the main box. The problem is without that Sky link that TV is useless now as our Freeview never has any signal or channels. I don't want to change the channel it's just when we want to eat dinner we want to be able to watch the footy.

So I was wondering is there a way I can watch sky in another room without sky multiroom subscription and preferably no wires?

I have read about a Sky link/Magic Eye you can buy for £9.99 and a video sender, the problem is I have no idea those work and do they need cables as I don't want cables running through the rooms. I'd like to keep HD channels too if I can as I read most solutions only show SD programs.

Thanks for any help.
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2y, 11m agoPosted 2 years, 11 months ago
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jaggededge
nbuuifx
jaggededge
Will a HDMI cable not work? as I looked at my box the only cable from the box to my main TV is a HDMI cable so shouldn't that be the same for my other TV all I do is buy a HDMI splitter and get a long HDMI cable and that way I can watch TV on both TV's? or will this not work?

That's what I did with Virgin Media, I presume it will work the same with Sky.

I have the HD Tivo box with Virgin.

Out of the back I have a 1m HDMI cable which goes to a powered splitter. I then have another 1m cable which goes to the main TV. I then have a 10m cable which goes out through the wall then runs down to the conservatory to the next TV, at this point I have another powered splitter with a 1m cable going to that TV and another 10m cable which goes upstairs to the TV in our bedroom.

All 3 get perfect HD output with no issues at all.

Before I did this I tried a wireless transmitter but the quality was awful, however I have left it in place with the scart unplugged as it had an IR transmitter built in so it lets me wirelessly transmit the remote downstairs from the upstairs TV.

My only bit left to sort is changing the channel from the conservatory, so far we carry the remote into the conservatory and point it awkwardly out of the door!

I've been reading up on IR injectors which transmit the IR signal over HDMI. They're about £22.95. Alternatively I could try and get an identical wireless TV transmitter and hope the receiver can pick up from both transmitters!

The splitters are about £20 each. I just bought the cheapest 10m HDMI cables from ebay. The total run is 20m which is beyond the capabilities of HDMI but the powered splitters are active so the 15m limit starts again at each splitter.

Yes finally someone who thinks like me. I thought this would be the easiest way and surely this way you can watch HD too. I have found a 3d compatible HDMI cable with SKY+hd for £6.25. Then a 10m Hdmi cable as second TV isn't 3d so don't need a fancy one and a splitter which is sky+hd box compatible and 3d enabled which is £22.95. Glad to know it works for you. I thought I was being really stupid even suggesting using a HDMI splitter as an option. Is it hard to set up all this stuff or is it basically plug everything in and you're good to go? I know it won't be multiroom but at least I can watch sky on another TV too without having to subscribe.

All plug and play - you can't go wrong. Mine is currently set at 720p output which works perfectly I can't verify that 1080p works as one of the TV's doesn't support it but to be honest I can't tell the difference on any of the TV's anyway between 720p and 1080p.

I tried a cheap Chinese splitter first which cost about £13. It worked perfectly but died after a week or so. The seller on ebay told me it was my fault as I left it on 23/7 - I got a refund and left it a while. I then got a Cablesson one which looks identical from the casing etc but has worked perfectly since so I got another too. So far so good with these ones which has been a few months now. These have been left on 24/7.

Price each for these was £22.95 though, just looking to get the IR injector from the same make for another £22.95.

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#1
just done this buy normal aerial extension wire a quid for 10m home bargins plug in back of sky box other end in tv i put lil holes in wall and ran outside

other end plug in tv aeril retune tv to find signal from sky box eat dinner watch telly
#2
xbox 360 console
#3
You can do it as before through the aux socket but it wont be in HD alternatly get a Now TV box but they are charging £4.99/month for connection to the same channels
http://www.nowtv.com/entertainment?DCMP=EMC_SMP_Ents_SERVICE_Entslaunch_161213_entshome


Edited By: arachnoid on Dec 23, 2013 20:26
#4
we have a magic eye works brill. just plugs into aerial socket at back of telly and then aerial wire plugs into magic eye. as far as I can remember you then have to tune channel into the telly with sky box switched on and it finds it as a channel.
#5
if your satelite dish has 4 outputs. what I did was buy a second hand box of ebay. and buy 50m of twin coax cable and rewired from the dish to the spare tv. so in that way I am able to watch to different channels at same time in different rooms.
#6
Is it an option to use a pc or laptop in that room?
Watch sky through that using your sky account and possibly hook up to TV.
#7
sponduli
just done this buy normal aerial extension wire a quid for 10m home bargins plug in back of sky box other end in tv i put lil holes in wall and ran outside

other end plug in tv aeril retune tv to find signal from sky box eat dinner watch telly

In which point do you plug the wire in on the Sky box? as I see loads of points but not sure which one I put it in what's it called on the box? Sorry if this is a stupid question.
#8
Bigred01
xbox 360 console

Don't you have to pay extra to use it? Also I don't have a Xbox and it's a waste to buy a Xbox to use it just for sky as I don't need it for gaming. Thanks for the suggestion though.
#9
arachnoid
You can do it as before through the aux socket but it wont be in HD alternatly get a Now TV box but they are charging £4.99/month for connection to the same channels
http://www.nowtv.com/entertainment?DCMP=EMC_SMP_Ents_SERVICE_Entslaunch_161213_entshome


I don't mind not having HD it was just if it was possible it would have been great. Now TV looks interesting but I can't be bothered with subscriptions and I want sky sports I don't think that's included in the £4.99 :(.
#10
bilalaziz007
if your satelite dish has 4 outputs. what I did was buy a second hand box of ebay. and buy 50m of twin coax cable and rewired from the dish to the spare tv. so in that way I am able to watch to different channels at same time in different rooms.

Nice that's basically multiroom for free also is that even allowed it's not like sky will come and say I'm doing something illegal? It seems a bit complicated for me I don't want to mess anything up and ruin my satellite.
#11
jaggededge
bilalaziz007
if your satelite dish has 4 outputs. what I did was buy a second hand box of ebay. and buy 50m of twin coax cable and rewired from the dish to the spare tv. so in that way I am able to watch to different channels at same time in different rooms.

Nice that's basically multiroom for free also is that even allowed it's not like sky will come and say I'm doing something illegal? It seems a bit complicated for me I don't want to mess anything up and ruin my satellite.



It's really easy and yes it's multiroom.

The only hard bit is putting the end connectors on the coax cable but if you look on YouTube, you will be able to find a step by step guide on how to do it.

I was lucky when the guy come to put my dish on he put a 8 output reciever on my dish and know I've have 4 skyboxes running.
#12
Connect sky box to the other room with sky cable.
One end in the box, the other in a magic eye that connects to your tv
All materials for about £10 on ebay
#13
vinnyabdn
Is it an option to use a pc or laptop in that room?
Watch sky through that using your sky account and possibly hook up to TV.

Yeah we could do that but I'd prefer something that is there all the time and we'll need to use our laptops so it isn't a permanent option that we can keep all day everyday.
#14
bilalaziz007
jaggededge
bilalaziz007
if your satelite dish has 4 outputs. what I did was buy a second hand box of ebay. and buy 50m of twin coax cable and rewired from the dish to the spare tv. so in that way I am able to watch to different channels at same time in different rooms.

Nice that's basically multiroom for free also is that even allowed it's not like sky will come and say I'm doing something illegal? It seems a bit complicated for me I don't want to mess anything up and ruin my satellite.



It's really easy and yes it's multiroom.

The only hard bit is putting the end connectors on the coax cable but if you look on YouTube, you will be able to find a step by step guide on how to do it.

I was lucky when the guy come to put my dish on he put a 8 output reciever on my dish and know I've have 4 skyboxes running.

What do I need to buy to do this and do I need tools and stuff?
#15
I think some people don't realise that the new skyHD box with wifi built in doesn't have an RF out.
So it's not a simple job of running coax cable to a second TV anymore :(
#16
SATELLITE TV COAXIAL CABLE WHITE WEBRO WF100 - Search on ebay seller:buyme24buyme
#17
SKY MAGIC EYE ANTIFERENCE ME200 - £3.25 on ebay
#18
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ll7zf5vdNnY

Video showing types of connections required
Took me about 1 1/2 hours
Don't buy cheap cable as will look too much of the signal.
#19
DAMNOME
I think some people don't realise that the new skyHD box with wifi built in doesn't have an RF out.
So it's not a simple job of running coax cable to a second TV anymore :(

I know I looked at my Sky+HD box and the points that are in there none of them look like anything we've ever used before. I tried shoving the cables I have in other slots but nothing fitted but I might not have had the correct cable.
#20
Not at home at min and believe that it is rf2
#21
to have like before - you will need an adapter called an IO Link
https://accessories.sky.com/?DCMP=KNC-

Sky sell it for £25 but if you ring them and tell them your upgraded box does not allow you to watch sky as before the will sell you one and credit your account with £25
#22
The video explains pretty well
Once connected the tv with the magic eye must be on tv as its signal is coming via the aerial socket
You also need to adjust settings on source box to allow the transmission of the signal.
All is explained in the you tube video
#23
Harry_Potter
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ll7zf5vdNnY

Video showing types of connections required
Took me about 1 1/2 hours
Don't buy cheap cable as will look too much of the signal.

Thanks for all the help really appreciate it. My only concern is the guy in the video says you need a RF out plug for it to work but the sky+hd box doesn't have one at all that I can see.
#24
jaggededge
Harry_Potter
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ll7zf5vdNnY

Video showing types of connections required
Took me about 1 1/2 hours
Don't buy cheap cable as will look too much of the signal.

Thanks for all the help really appreciate it. My only concern is the guy in the video says you need a RF out plug for it to work but the sky+hd box doesn't have one at all that I can see.

nope - no RF out
You need the IO link
#25
Ah
So with new boxes there is no RF socket? So need to buy the expensive IO conversion?
Sky are clever sods ...
#26
DAMNOME
jaggededge
Harry_Potter
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ll7zf5vdNnY

Video showing types of connections required
Took me about 1 1/2 hours
Don't buy cheap cable as will look too much of the signal.

Thanks for all the help really appreciate it. My only concern is the guy in the video says you need a RF out plug for it to work but the sky+hd box doesn't have one at all that I can see.

nope - no RF out
You need the IO link

£25 for a IO link damn and 28 days delivery :(. Why are sky such rip off artists?
#27
I have a 500gb HD box and it has the connection
I was going to get a larger capacity one
I won't know
#28
Will a HDMI cable not work? as I looked at my box the only cable from the box to my main TV is a HDMI cable so shouldn't that be the same for my other TV all I do is buy a HDMI splitter and get a long HDMI cable and that way I can watch TV on both TV's? or will this not work?
#29
Harry_Potter
I have a 500gb HD box and it has the connection
I was going to get a larger capacity one
I won't know

Yeah don't get it. Sky have made it to stop people from sharing the signal to other TV's. It's smart by them to be honest as most people panic then and rush to get full price sky multiroom.

Edited By: jaggededge on Dec 23, 2013 23:31
#30
make your own multi room. as I mentioned earlier and believe its not hard at all.
#31
Just buy a decent TV aerial and watch Freeview on your second TV set.(_;)
#32
bilalaziz007
make your own multi room. as I mentioned earlier and believe its not hard at all.

I know but is it not illegal? If something breaks will sky not realise you have a massive extra cable dangling?
Where do I buy the cable and connectors from? can I get it in shops or do I have to order online?
How much should I pay for a extra sky box? I still have my old working Sky Digibox can I use that? as I don't really need hd programs Sky standard should be good enough for now.
Do I need any extra tools like screwdrivers or a drill?

Is this the cable I need?: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/50m-CCTV-SKY-SATELITE-FREEVIEW-DIGITAL-AERIAL-COAXIAL-CABLE-HIGH-QUALITY-/160726114782

Sorry for all the questions but I'm just a little worried I do all of this and then it still doesn't work because I bought the wrong stuff.
#33
Webro wf100 cable is what you should get
Cheap cable will be awful over any real distance
Poor quality cable = poor quality picture
#34
Inactive
Just buy a decent TV aerial and watch Freeview on your second TV set.(_;)

We have a great aerial but for some reason only the kitchen doesn't pick up signals, well it does but just like 9 channels which are useless ones also we don't get the first 5 channels on it and still no sky sports on Freeview. I would have settled if we at least got ITV champions league coverage but ITV never ever shows up as a channel on my Freeview.
#35
Harry_Potter
Webro wf100 cable is what you should get
Cheap cable will be awful over any real distance
Poor quality cable = poor quality picture

Where do I get the cable from? as their website doesn't really sell any just advertising.
Is this it:
http://www.amazon.co.uk/WF100-grade-digital-cable-clips/dp/B004LO96JC/ref=pd_cp_ce_2

Edited By: jaggededge on Dec 24, 2013 14:30
#36
....a pair of old school av senders (don't expect HD tho...) one in the back of the sky box, other on the telly in other room... Check on eBay 15-20 quid fleabay !

This sends signal wirelessly....and one on the skybox has an infrared wire....attachment that you put in front of infrared hole on he skybox itself.....now....when in the other room....you can point your remote at the telly in the dining room (that av sender attached to it...wirelessly sends a signal to the sender attached to your skybox and the sybixs infra red receiver simultaneously).....and change the channel on the skybox.....all while you're guzzling down turkey....and trying to stop those sprout-gases from breaching the sanctity of your underpants...

Sky-go app on a lappy-top plugged into your telly....or you can watch on it on ipad also works....don't splash gravy on the screen tho.... Or try to head a ball by diving across the table......that's why I no longer watch telly in the dining room !
#37
bilalaziz007
if your satelite dish has 4 outputs. what I did was buy a second hand box of ebay. and buy 50m of twin coax cable and rewired from the dish to the spare tv. so in that way I am able to watch to different channels at same time in different rooms.

Surely you need another sky viewing card? so how does that work? it is not free multi room?
#38
jaggededge
Will a HDMI cable not work? as I looked at my box the only cable from the box to my main TV is a HDMI cable so shouldn't that be the same for my other TV all I do is buy a HDMI splitter and get a long HDMI cable and that way I can watch TV on both TV's? or will this not work?

That's what I did with Virgin Media, I presume it will work the same with Sky.

I have the HD Tivo box with Virgin.

Out of the back I have a 1m HDMI cable which goes to a powered splitter. I then have another 1m cable which goes to the main TV. I then have a 10m cable which goes out through the wall then runs down to the conservatory to the next TV, at this point I have another powered splitter with a 1m cable going to that TV and another 10m cable which goes upstairs to the TV in our bedroom.

All 3 get perfect HD output with no issues at all.

Before I did this I tried a wireless transmitter but the quality was awful, however I have left it in place with the scart unplugged as it had an IR transmitter built in so it lets me wirelessly transmit the remote downstairs from the upstairs TV.

My only bit left to sort is changing the channel from the conservatory, so far we carry the remote into the conservatory and point it awkwardly out of the door!

I've been reading up on IR injectors which transmit the IR signal over HDMI. They're about £22.95. Alternatively I could try and get an identical wireless TV transmitter and hope the receiver can pick up from both transmitters!

The splitters are about £20 each. I just bought the cheapest 10m HDMI cables from ebay. The total run is 20m which is beyond the capabilities of HDMI but the powered splitters are active so the 15m limit starts again at each splitter.
#39
mds1256
bilalaziz007
if your satelite dish has 4 outputs. what I did was buy a second hand box of ebay. and buy 50m of twin coax cable and rewired from the dish to the spare tv. so in that way I am able to watch to different channels at same time in different rooms.

Surely you need another sky viewing card? so how does that work? it is not free multi room?

Yeah I thought that too I just went to try connect my old box to the main point without the card and everything worked but it said viewing card not found. Surely any viewing card we could buy will be inactive too as no one will sell a active card. I only have 1 sky viewing card and it won't be fun having to move it every time to use the box. Right now I'm thinking the best option would be to get a HDMI splitter and see if that works as on a SKY+ HD box the only wire connected to the TV is a HDMI so if I split it into 2 HDMI wires should be able to use it in 2 places or will this not work?
#40
nbuuifx
jaggededge
Will a HDMI cable not work? as I looked at my box the only cable from the box to my main TV is a HDMI cable so shouldn't that be the same for my other TV all I do is buy a HDMI splitter and get a long HDMI cable and that way I can watch TV on both TV's? or will this not work?

That's what I did with Virgin Media, I presume it will work the same with Sky.

I have the HD Tivo box with Virgin.

Out of the back I have a 1m HDMI cable which goes to a powered splitter. I then have another 1m cable which goes to the main TV. I then have a 10m cable which goes out through the wall then runs down to the conservatory to the next TV, at this point I have another powered splitter with a 1m cable going to that TV and another 10m cable which goes upstairs to the TV in our bedroom.

All 3 get perfect HD output with no issues at all.

Before I did this I tried a wireless transmitter but the quality was awful, however I have left it in place with the scart unplugged as it had an IR transmitter built in so it lets me wirelessly transmit the remote downstairs from the upstairs TV.

My only bit left to sort is changing the channel from the conservatory, so far we carry the remote into the conservatory and point it awkwardly out of the door!

I've been reading up on IR injectors which transmit the IR signal over HDMI. They're about £22.95. Alternatively I could try and get an identical wireless TV transmitter and hope the receiver can pick up from both transmitters!

The splitters are about £20 each. I just bought the cheapest 10m HDMI cables from ebay. The total run is 20m which is beyond the capabilities of HDMI but the powered splitters are active so the 15m limit starts again at each splitter.

Yes finally someone who thinks like me. I thought this would be the easiest way and surely this way you can watch HD too. I have found a 3d compatible HDMI cable with SKY+hd for £6.25. Then a 10m Hdmi cable as second TV isn't 3d so don't need a fancy one and a splitter which is sky+hd box compatible and 3d enabled which is £22.95. Glad to know it works for you. I thought I was being really stupid even suggesting using a HDMI splitter as an option. Is it hard to set up all this stuff or is it basically plug everything in and you're good to go? I know it won't be multiroom but at least I can watch sky on another TV too without having to subscribe.

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