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after a laptop with 2gb ram and vista proffesional

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9y, 6m agoPosted 9 years, 6 months ago
Hiya, I have been saving up and am after a laptop which is relitively future proof with 2gb ram and vista premium. My cousin has got these specs (he is spoilt) and they seem to work a dream. I am currently on a 6 year old piece of junk with 256mb ram and a 40gb harddrive. Don't ever buy a packard bell ever :giggle: I need the laptop for college and have saved up around £600 from selling on ebay and stuff. Anyway if any of you kind folk can point me into the right direction it will be much appreciated. :-D

edit: bum i wrote vista proffesional in title I meant premium im a total klutz lol
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9y, 6m agoPosted 9 years, 6 months ago
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#1
Depends on what for, if not gaming that should get a good rig, if for gaming, then WELL below what you need to spend.
#2
ryouga
Depends on what for, if not gaming that should get a good rig, if for gaming, then WELL below what you need to spend.

Hiya not into gaming as such, but stuff like photoshop, web designing, flash making, surfing the internet on msn, listen to music (my computer currently doesn't have a working soundcard :-( )
#3
There are lots to choose from then, I'd go for a Core 2 Duo model if I were you. Do you want a 15.4" model (the normal size)?

You could also get a 17" model which has larger screen but not as portable, or a smaller 14" model which is more portable.. Expect to spend a bit more for a 17" model but the extra screen area might be useful for web design/photoshop etc.

Also note that not many laptops come with 2GB yet but memory is very cheap at the moment (2GB laptop ram can be had for under £50) so its worth considering getting a 1GB model and upgrading the ram yourself.

BTW, welcome to HUKD!
#4
jah128
There are lots to choose from then, I'd go for a Core 2 Duo model if I were you. Do you want a 15.4" model (the normal size)?

You could also get a 17" model which has larger screen but not as portable, or a smaller 14" model which is more portable.. Expect to spend a bit more for a 17" model but the extra screen area might be useful for web design/photoshop etc.

Also note that not many laptops come with 2GB yet but memory is very cheap at the moment (2GB laptop ram can be had for under £50) so its worth considering getting a 1GB model and upgrading the ram yourself.

BTW, welcome to HUKD!


Hiya, yeah I am not really fussed about screensize, a 15 sounds perfect, I have heard people say upgrading ram on laptops can be fussy. Would you reccomend dell/compaq/sony etc? Thanks for your help and your warm welcome by the way, :thumbsup:
#5
Dell are often cheapest overall, though Acer are also often very good value. I think with laptops it can be a bonus to buy from a shop sometimes though, its nice to have it there quickly.

I personally like the Fujitsu-Siemens and Toshiba laptops as they are simple and plain in design, and well priced.

You'll find the cheapest current Dell deals here by searching for 'Dell' on the main page - MikeT posts them every Thursday when they come out. If there is nothing that looks good to you today its worth checking again on Thurs to see if there are any new deals or price drops.

Changing memory shouldn't be a problem, thankfully the cheap DDR2 at ebuyer is all branded stuff (Kingston, Crucial etc) which is likely to be compatable. Be wary of paying over £50 to upgrade from 1gb to 2gb as you could do it yourself cheaper (then sell the stuff you remove).
#6
Laptop wise my brands of choice for top quality are Asus, Toshiba, Sony, Fujitsu and Rock (Asus I like as they offer a 2yr Warranty as oppose to the standard 12 months which is well worth thinking about.)

or if you're looking for a value laptop then consider Acer, MSI, Dell etc.

Steer well clear of Compaq, HP, Packard Bell etc. they're all tarred with the same brush.

For around your £600 budget I'd go for something like these:
[LIST]
[*]http://www.laptopsdirect.co.uk/Sony_Vaio_N21E-W_Laptop_VGN-N21E-W/version-1.asp I love Sony's they're so pretty, you'll pay a bit more for one though.
[*]http://www.laptopsdirect.co.uk/Acer_TravelMate_7512AWSMi_LX.TJW0X.001/version-1.asp Acer offer good VFM, this is a reasonable AMD based laptop
[*]http://www.laptopsdirect.co.uk/Asus_F3Jr_Laptop_F3JR-AP085E/version-1.asp Nice Intel based laptop with DirectX10 support.
[*]http://www.laptopsdirect.co.uk/Asus_F3M_Laptop_F3M-AP052C/version-1.asp Reasonable AMD based laptop
[*]http://www.laptopsdirect.co.uk/Toshiba_Satellite_P100_Laptop_PSPAAE-01D00UEN/version-1.asp Toshiba are considered by many to produce the best most reliable laptops money can buy, you'll pay a bit more for one though.
[*]http://www.laptopsdirect.co.uk/Asus_F3TC_Laptop_F3TC-AP011C/version-1.asp Reasonable AMD based laptop
[*]http://www.laptopsdirect.co.uk/Asus_F3Jr_Laptop_F3JR-AP137C/version-1.asp Nice Intel based laptop with DirectX10 support.
[*]http://www.laptopsdirect.co.uk/Acer_Aspire_9301AWSMi_Laptop_LX.AEF0J.070/version-1.asp Reasonable AMD based laptop
[/LIST]

All come with 1Gb RAM and Vista Home Premium, you will seriously struggle to get a decent< £600 laptop with 2Gb of RAM. However memory is reasonably cheap at the minute and fitting extra RAM to laptops is very easy, but you'll need to make sure what ever laptop you go for has space for extra RAM if that's the route you want to take. Most of the ones I've listed are upgradable to either 2Gb or 4Gb.
#7
Heres a 15.4" Acer with reasonable specs and 2Gb of RAM for £589.97.

Might be worth considering.

http://www.laptopsdirect.co.uk/Acer_Aspire_5613AWLMi_LX.AY50X.062/version.asp
#8
megalomaniac
Laptop wise my brands of choice for top quality are Asus, Toshiba, Sony, Fujitsu and Rock (Asus I like as they offer a 2yr Warranty as oppose to the standard 12 months which is well worth thinking about.)

or if you're looking for a value laptop then consider Acer, MSI, Dell etc.

Steer well clear of Compaq, HP, Packard Bell etc. they're all tarred with the same brush.

For around your £600 budget I'd go for something like these:
[LIST]
[*]http://www.laptopsdirect.co.uk/Sony_Vaio_N21E-W_Laptop_VGN-N21E-W/version-1.asp I love Sony's they're so pretty, you'll pay a bit more for one though.
[*]http://www.laptopsdirect.co.uk/Acer_TravelMate_7512AWSMi_LX.TJW0X.001/version-1.asp Acer offer good VFM, this is a reasonable AMD based laptop
[*]http://www.laptopsdirect.co.uk/Asus_F3Jr_Laptop_F3JR-AP085E/version-1.asp Nice Intel based laptop with DirectX10 support.
[*]http://www.laptopsdirect.co.uk/Asus_F3M_Laptop_F3M-AP052C/version-1.asp Reasonable AMD based laptop
[*]http://www.laptopsdirect.co.uk/Toshiba_Satellite_P100_Laptop_PSPAAE-01D00UEN/version-1.asp Toshiba are considered by many to produce the best most reliable laptops money can buy, you'll pay a bit more for one though.
[*]http://www.laptopsdirect.co.uk/Asus_F3TC_Laptop_F3TC-AP011C/version-1.asp Reasonable AMD based laptop
[*]http://www.laptopsdirect.co.uk/Asus_F3Jr_Laptop_F3JR-AP137C/version-1.asp Nice Intel based laptop with DirectX10 support.
[*]http://www.laptopsdirect.co.uk/Acer_Aspire_9301AWSMi_Laptop_LX.AEF0J.070/version-1.asp Reasonable AMD based laptop
[/LIST]

All come with 1Gb RAM and Vista Home Premium, you will seriously struggle to get a decent< £600 laptop with 2Gb of RAM. However memory is reasonably cheap at the minute and fitting extra RAM to laptops is very easy, but you'll need to make sure what ever laptop you go for has space for extra RAM if that's the route you want to take. Most of the ones I've listed are upgradable to either 2Gb or 4Gb.


Thanks a lot for the response, seriously considering the sony vaio, only thing is im worried about the 1gb ram with vista premium whether it can handle it well but from reviews it does seem ok. I notice on ebuyer there is a similar specced vaio with 2gb ram at £723, so around £123 more which seems quite dear just for another 1gb of ram.

1gb-http://www.ebuyer.com/customer/products/index.html?rb=28323495189&action=c2hvd19wcm9kdWN0X3NwZWNpZmljYXRpb25z&product_uid=124797

2gb-http://www.ebuyer.com/UK/product/127193
#9
You could always add an extra Gb yourself: http://www.ebuyer.com/UK/product/106116 memory's fairly cheap at the moment!
#10
megalomaniac
Laptop wise my brands of choice for top quality are Asus, Toshiba, Sony, Fujitsu and Rock (Asus I like as they offer a 2yr Warranty as oppose to the standard 12 months which is well worth thinking about.)

or if you're looking for a value laptop then consider Acer, MSI, Dell etc.

Steer well clear of Compaq, HP, Packard Bell etc. they're all tarred with the same brush.

For around your £600 budget I'd go for something like these:
[LIST]
[*]http://www.laptopsdirect.co.uk/Sony_Vaio_N21E-W_Laptop_VGN-N21E-W/version-1.asp I love Sony's they're so pretty, you'll pay a bit more for one though.
[*]http://www.laptopsdirect.co.uk/Acer_TravelMate_7512AWSMi_LX.TJW0X.001/version-1.asp Acer offer good VFM, this is a reasonable AMD based laptop
[*]http://www.laptopsdirect.co.uk/Asus_F3Jr_Laptop_F3JR-AP085E/version-1.asp Nice Intel based laptop with DirectX10 support.
[*]http://www.laptopsdirect.co.uk/Asus_F3M_Laptop_F3M-AP052C/version-1.asp Reasonable AMD based laptop
[*]http://www.laptopsdirect.co.uk/Toshiba_Satellite_P100_Laptop_PSPAAE-01D00UEN/version-1.asp Toshiba are considered by many to produce the best most reliable laptops money can buy, you'll pay a bit more for one though.
[*]http://www.laptopsdirect.co.uk/Asus_F3TC_Laptop_F3TC-AP011C/version-1.asp Reasonable AMD based laptop
[*]http://www.laptopsdirect.co.uk/Asus_F3Jr_Laptop_F3JR-AP137C/version-1.asp Nice Intel based laptop with DirectX10 support.
[*]http://www.laptopsdirect.co.uk/Acer_Aspire_9301AWSMi_Laptop_LX.AEF0J.070/version-1.asp Reasonable AMD based laptop
[/LIST]

All come with 1Gb RAM and Vista Home Premium, you will seriously struggle to get a decent< £600 laptop with 2Gb of RAM. However memory is reasonably cheap at the minute and fitting extra RAM to laptops is very easy, but you'll need to make sure what ever laptop you go for has space for extra RAM if that's the route you want to take. Most of the ones I've listed are upgradable to either 2Gb or 4Gb.


Ok I feel the need to comment here HP Compaq is one of the top quality laptops if you buy a businees laptop you get a standard 2 year rtb warranty how can you compare them to packard bell I am sorry I have worked in the IT industry for years.... the two laptops of choice are the toshiba and HP, steer clear of fujitsu and packard bell the sony is a nice laptop but expensive for parts, rock is fair and dell even though their parts may not be top of the range their after service care is ok
#11
I'll give ya £20 for your old laptop! :thumbsup:
#12
fatty
Ok I feel the need to comment here HP Compaq is one of the top quality laptops if you buy a businees laptop you get a standard 2 year rtb warranty how can you compare them to packard bell I am sorry I have worked in the IT industry for years.... the two laptops of choice are the toshiba and HP, steer clear of fujitsu and packard bell the sony is a nice laptop but expensive for parts, rock is fair and dell even though their parts may not be top of the range their after service care is ok


Couldn't disagree more, used to sell the things for Dixons Group as a PT job while a student and they are awful, they break left right and centre, are over priced and are generally poor for the money (HP do make fantastic printers though). Maybe they have improved since I last looked at one but I sincerely doubt it, and if we are playing the "experience" card then nothing in my years of experience working with computers (as both technician and programmer - and salesman obviously :giggle: ), my computing a-level nor computing related degrees (BSc, MSc and soon to be PhD) have led me to believe otherwise.

While HP Compaq may well, as you say, give 2yrs rtb (Return To Base) on a business laptop, this is a consumer purchase we're talking about and they offer 12 months standard warranty on most (but not all) of their range. Someone like Asus however offer 2yrs as standard across their entire range.

Anyway back to the case in hand:

As fatty brought up warranties, there are 3 main types of warranty:

[LIST]
[*]RTB: Return To Base, you have to send the laptop off to them, they fix it and return it to you
[*]Collect and Return: They organise to pick up your laptop, then take it away fix it and return it
[*]On-site: They come to you and fix it in your home if possible.
[/LIST]

Generally it's worth paying close attention to the different types of warranty, as 2yrs rtb for example might be less use to you than a 1yr on-site. The first two in the list will leave you without a PC for 5-7days and upwards depending on how quick they are. The latter option is by far the best but is rare for laptops, and be careful with RTB as the postage is likely to cost you a fortune. While most reputable company's will refund the postage, if it's a genuine fault, it's often a pain to claim it back.

As for which brand to pick, here is my take on it in more detail:

[LIST]
[*]Toshiba: The best but expensive, I doubt anyone will contradict me on that one.
[*]Sony: The prettiest but expensive, not quite up to Toshiba's standards but then no-one really is.
[*]Fujitsu Siemens: Review very well, pick up any computer hardware magazine and these guys will rate up and around Sony, Toshiba etc.. They had a bad reputation for reliability as just Fujitsu (many years ago now) but since the Siemens involvement have really picked up.
[*]Asus: I love these guys, they offer levels of service up their with the best but are often much cheaper.
[*]Acer: Great balance of quality and price, not a patch on the likes of Toshiba but at their prices you wouldn't expect them to be.
[*]Dell: Now a lot of people like Dell, personally I kind of do and kind of don't, their prices are good but they have one of the lowest customer satisfaction ratings in the industry so for that reason if you want a value laptop I'd still favor Acer.
[*]HP Compaq: I have personal and second hand experience of just how bad these guys can be, they market as a premium brand but in my honest opinion you'd be better off with Dell for service.
[*]Packard Bell: Well from the first post I think we all know about them :giggle:
[*]Rock: Predominantly a gamers brand, top spec laptops at top spec prices if you have the money you can't go far wrong with one of these.
[*]MSI: Similar to acer, quite new to the market and looking to prove themselves
[/LIST]

Anyway that's my personal opinion, and remember it is just an opinion. Different people will tell you different things from their own personal experiences, they are not necessarily any less correct and it always pays to look into a company and product well before buying anything.



EDIT: Just realised I forgot IBM: good but very expensive.
#13
got this from another posting; seems like what you are looking for, I would have prefered a dedicated graphics card, but these are now hard to find.

http://www.laptopsdirect.co.uk/Hewlett_Packard_6715b_Laptop_GB835ET-ABU/version-1.asp

#14
Occupation:
Student / C++, OpenGL & DirectX programmer / Web developer

Nice a PHD in computers :giggle:

Anyways glad you found a laptop
#15
fatty
Occupation:
Student / C++, OpenGL & DirectX programmer / Web developer

Nice a PHD in computers :giggle:

Anyways glad you found a laptop


Yes well my research requires C++, OpenGL & DirectX and I am the director of a Web Development company. Now would you like me to be more precise, maybe the full titles of my degrees, perhaps see a copy of my CV and examine my work experience or are you happy to just admit that playing the IT experience card was a somewhat arrogant thing to do (sorry for over-reacting, but that sort of holier than thou, I'm right you are wrong, approach really gets me going - you may have noticed :giggle:) and that simply stating you have personally had good experiences with HP Compaq would have sufficed and presented the opportunity for a much more useful discussion.


By all means debate the point, even prove me wrong - I don't mind, but you wont win any friends with that 'I'm right, end of story' attitude.

We are, after all, trying to help someone out here...



p.s. fatty, love the name :thumbsup:
#16
Think the original poster should make sure they have ' Spell Checker '.

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