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I have PIP high rate disability allowance and a blue badge. It seems that various places give a discount if you are disabled. However, you obviously need to provide some proof. Is there a standard un… Read More
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8m, 6d agoPosted 8 months, 6 days ago
I have PIP high rate disability allowance and a blue badge. It seems that various places give a discount if you are disabled. However, you obviously need to provide some proof. Is there a standard universally recognised ID card ? I've seen a few schemes but they seem to be private firms just trying to make money from people registering and paying £10-£24 a year rather than an official scheme. Carrying my blue badge would be rather awkward :)
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Been through this and there is not a nationally recognised ID card showing you are disabled, this was all dropped when you no longer had to register as disabled, It is all down to the individual company what they will accept as prove of your disability, The only exception to this is when you are claiming VAT on disable products, all that requires is a signed statement from yourself which states what you're disability is, the vat discount should then be applied at the point of sale. The only company that has dispensation to insist you claim after payment is ARGOS which you have to then send them a receipt, statement and prove of your disability. The tax office will then contact you if they require further info.

Edited By: Argoj on Aug 17, 2016 12:18

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#1
you can take your letter what proves your on pip.
#2
janenmark
you can take your letter what proves your on pip.

that's as inconvenient as taking your blue badge ! The letter gives details of your condition and symptoms. I don't really want to tell everyone that. :( I'm looking for a credit card sized card to go in my wallet really.

As an example would you want to tell the guy in B&Q that you need someone to wipe your bottom ? lol (just an example and not my issue.

Edited By: jonnithomas on Aug 16, 2016 20:02
#3
my friend is on pip and it doesn't say her condition on the letter it just says she gets it. I don't know about the card sorry oO
#4
janenmark
my friend is on pip and it doesn't say her condition on the letter it just says she gets it. I don't know about the card sorry oO

how strange. my letter is four plus pages and breaks down my problem giving points awarded in each category of their assessment. It then goes on to say how many points I have scored in total and that my own condition is permanent. for others it may give a duration before a further review is needed.
#5
My nephew has a disability and his parents just take his letter- most places don't even look at it - just glance.
#6
pookynuts
My nephew has a disability and his parents just take his letter- most places don't even look at it - just glance.

yes, I can do that of course. :) Maybe I'm being naive. I just figured an ID card like a driving license would be available.
#7
Yes it is your letter as it is proof of your entitlement. It should only state a breakdown of different entitlements not your condition. If it states about your condition I would contact them and ask for a different notification
#8
jonnithomas
pookynuts
My nephew has a disability and his parents just take his letter- most places don't even look at it - just glance.
yes, I can do that of course. :) Maybe I'm being naive. I just figured an ID card like a driving license would be available.

A quick google search gave this: http://www.did-card.co.uk/
Maybe ask the store what do they need for disability discount?
#9
you could get a disabled persons railcard but i have no idea what hoops you need to jump through to get one and i have no idea whether discounters would recognise it. i also wonder what you can do when shopping on-line.
I mean no disrespect and generally i recognise at times there is a need for positive discrimination, but when it comes to buying general goods and services should disabled people get more discounts than anyone else? Just wondering and thinking out loud. But I suppose if it is OK for over 60s to get discount from B&Q on some days then they should do the same for disabled.
#10
dai007uk
jonnithomas
pookynuts
My nephew has a disability and his parents just take his letter- most places don't even look at it - just glance.
yes, I can do that of course. :) Maybe I'm being naive. I just figured an ID card like a driving license would be available.
A quick google search gave this: http://www.did-card.co.uk/
Maybe ask the store what do they need for disability discount?

yes, I've seen that. It doesn't seem to be recognised by anyone and is done by a private guy so I'm not sure how valid it is ?
#11
tardytortoise
you could get a disabled persons railcard but i have no idea what hoops you need to jump through to get one and i have no idea whether discounters would recognise it. i also wonder what you can do when shopping on-line.
I mean no disrespect and generally i recognise at times there is a need for positive discrimination, but when it comes to buying general goods and services should disabled people get more discounts than anyone else? Just wondering and thinking out loud. But I suppose if it is OK for over 60s to get discount from B&Q on some days then they should do the same for disabled.

it is simply that the disabled may have special needs such as a person to help them and inability to do stairs or wheelchair access. as for discrimination that's economic discrimination. the disabled are a large group so attracting them is a good business sense. if I can get 10% off at argos and nothing at PCworld or currys it does influence buying choices.
#12
jonnithomas
tardytortoise
you could get a disabled persons railcard but i have no idea what hoops you need to jump through to get one and i have no idea whether discounters would recognise it. i also wonder what you can do when shopping on-line.
I mean no disrespect and generally i recognise at times there is a need for positive discrimination, but when it comes to buying general goods and services should disabled people get more discounts than anyone else? Just wondering and thinking out loud. But I suppose if it is OK for over 60s to get discount from B&Q on some days then they should do the same for disabled.

it is simply that the disabled may have special needs such as a person to help them and inability to do stairs or wheelchair access. as for discrimination that's economic discrimination. the disabled are a large group so attracting them is a good business sense. if I can get 10% off at argos and nothing at PCworld or currys it does influence buying choices.


also the moment a product is marketed solely for the disabled it tends to be double the price...for example I just bought 2 sloped plates for my daughter to enable her to spill less food from the NHS site...I paid £17 for both...I think disabled need all the help they can get ...believe me as a carer I have an uphill battle for the most basic things ..
#13
jonnithomas
tardytortoise
you could get a disabled persons railcard but i have no idea what hoops you need to jump through to get one and i have no idea whether discounters would recognise it. i also wonder what you can do when shopping on-line.
I mean no disrespect and generally i recognise at times there is a need for positive discrimination, but when it comes to buying general goods and services should disabled people get more discounts than anyone else? Just wondering and thinking out loud. But I suppose if it is OK for over 60s to get discount from B&Q on some days then they should do the same for disabled.
it is simply that the disabled may have special needs such as a person to help them and inability to do stairs or wheelchair access. as for discrimination that's economic discrimination. the disabled are a large group so attracting them is a good business sense. if I can get 10% off at argos and nothing at PCworld or currys it does influence buying choices.
If I got discount at one store and not at another it would influence me (and I'm sure others) to shop there. Try your council/social services and see if they can assist you with something. I also think it's disgusting how expensive items are when you NEED then not just want them.

Edited By: sn0ttyang3l on Aug 16, 2016 23:13
#14
Photocopy your blue badge both sides, shrink to bank card size and laminate, useful to keep in your purse or wallet!


Edited By: juls10 on Aug 16, 2016 23:29
#15
sn0ttyang3l
jonnithomas
tardytortoise
you could get a disabled persons railcard but i have no idea what hoops you need to jump through to get one and i have no idea whether discounters would recognise it. i also wonder what you can do when shopping on-line.
I mean no disrespect and generally i recognise at times there is a need for positive discrimination, but when it comes to buying general goods and services should disabled people get more discounts than anyone else? Just wondering and thinking out loud. But I suppose if it is OK for over 60s to get discount from B&Q on some days then they should do the same for disabled.
it is simply that the disabled may have special needs such as a person to help them and inability to do stairs or wheelchair access. as for discrimination that's economic discrimination. the disabled are a large group so attracting them is a good business sense. if I can get 10% off at argos and nothing at PCworld or currys it does influence buying choices.
If I got discount at one store and not at another it would influence me (and I'm sure others) to shop there. Try your council/social services and see if they can assist you with something. I also think it's disgusting how expensive items are when you NEED then not just want them.

The council handed me to the county council. the county council do blue badges but nothing else for ID. the blue badge application dept initially returned my application as my two passport fotos taken a month ago at Tesco looked too much like my driving license which is six years old and digital. (their's has to be recent).
so I phoned and explained and they weren't happy so I had the foto done outside sainsburys with a different colour tshirt and they accepted that.
so Tesco and countersigned by my consultant isn't acceptable but sainsburys and a different tshirt is OK !
#16
#17
sazzopardi1971


why ? it's for families with disabled CHILDREN. 'The Max Card is a discount card for foster families and families of children with additional needs. Families simply show their Max Card upon entry to a venue in order to obtain free or discounted admission.'
#18
Get a bus pass, it will show that you are disabled .

My daughter and I carry ours about, same size as a credit card .
#19
I came across this issue a few times with my partner. We where going to Portaventura Theme park and we noticed on the website you can buy a disabled ticket which was around a 1/3rd of the price of normal (as it should be since she wasn't going to be going onto any of the rides but wanted to go see the shows etc). Those tickets could only be bought on the website but before issuing you with a physical ticket you had to take "proof of disability" to the ticket office (not one of the normal kiosks) about the only thing we could present was a copy of the blue badge along with another form of photo ID which they did say on the website was acceptable. We have had some be "picky" at the time on flights saying that her crutches had to be placed into the airplane hold and would not accept blue badge for this (we had to ring the airline before to check what they would accept). We had to get doctors letter stating she could not walk without the aids (because they want to put you into a wheelchair and onto the plane instead). Between those two things (or both as normally with letter you still need photo ID) we never had any issues in our own or any other country for that matter with the acceptance of one or the other.

If you look around for example Cinema,Attractions, Bus/Train Applications etc you will commonly see the things they ask for is Blue Badge,Photo ID or letter.

Bus/Train passes are not commonly accepted forms as they are provided by your local council or third party travel company not being transferable. For example she could not have used her "Translink" bus pass from N.Ireland in England/Scotland etc although your blue badge counts for anywhere in UK and Europe (that part might stop lol!)



Edited By: cecilmcroberts on Aug 17, 2016 02:18
#20
cecilmcroberts
I came across this issue a few times with my partner. We where going to Portaventura Theme park and we noticed on the website you can buy a disabled ticket which was around a 1/3rd of the price of normal (as it should be since she wasn't going to be going onto any of the rides but wanted to go see the shows etc). Those tickets could only be bought on the website but before issuing you with a physical ticket you had to take "proof of disability" to the ticket office (not one of the normal kiosks) about the only thing we could present was a copy of the blue badge along with another form of photo ID which they did say on the website was acceptable. We have had some be "picky" at the time on flights saying that her crutches had to be placed into the airplane hold and would not accept blue badge for this (we had to ring the airline before to check what they would accept). We had to get doctors letter stating she could not walk without the aids (because they want to put you into a wheelchair and onto the plane instead). Between those two things (or both as normally with letter you still need photo ID) we never had any issues in our own or any other country for that matter with the acceptance of one or the other.
If you look around for example Cinema,Attractions, Bus/Train Applications etc you will commonly see the things they ask for is Blue Badge,Photo ID or letter.
Bus/Train passes are not commonly accepted forms as they are provided by your local council or third party travel company not being transferable. For example she could not have used her "Translink" bus pass from N.Ireland in England/Scotland etc although your blue badge counts for anywhere in UK and Europe (that part might stop lol!)

yes, it can be awkward. I've had a letter from my consultant stating I'm disabled refused as acceptable 'proof'. Also the court tribunal letter stating I'm disabled disallowed. I don't have a bus or train pass as I cannot use either form of transport due to my disability. I haven't tried my blue badge yet (apart from for parking :) ).


Edited By: jonnithomas on Aug 17, 2016 03:18
#21
so what I was asking was for an id disability photocard that's universally accepted. the alternative seems to be check each time before going somewhere what is 'acceptable' or carry everything to use when you get somewhere.
#22
There used to be a " Green Card " issued, but they stopped doing that way back in the nineties, to my knowledge nothing has ever been issued since to replace it. The best suggestion I can give you is to do what juls 10 said # 14, that is a well known disabled persons item, and as long as the person pictured on it is present then it should be accepted as proof.
#23
There is something called the Access Card which is for disabled people that doesn't want to carry all their paperwork around with them. The card has your name and photo and the different symbols on it depending on your disability. The application is quite simple to complete it's just giving details of you disability and what help you require, it cost £15 for 3 years. But you have to scan/post a copy of your PIP letter to support your application. Take a look and see if it's what you require http://www.accesscard.org.uk
#24
Further to my earlier post, there are a handful of local councils who issue a disability card, you would need to enquire with yours, but as to the rest that are advertised, run by various people including some disabled organisations, they are not recognised nationally as being an official document, so whether they will be accepted by all is doubtful.
#25
Been through this and there is not a nationally recognised ID card showing you are disabled, this was all dropped when you no longer had to register as disabled, It is all down to the individual company what they will accept as prove of your disability, The only exception to this is when you are claiming VAT on disable products, all that requires is a signed statement from yourself which states what you're disability is, the vat discount should then be applied at the point of sale. The only company that has dispensation to insist you claim after payment is ARGOS which you have to then send them a receipt, statement and prove of your disability. The tax office will then contact you if they require further info.

Edited By: Argoj on Aug 17, 2016 12:18
#26
rolo97
There is something called the Access Card which is for disabled people that doesn't want to carry all their paperwork around with them. The card has your name and photo and the different symbols on it depending on your disability. The application is quite simple to complete it's just giving details of you disability and what help you require, it cost £15 for 3 years. But you have to scan/post a copy of your PIP letter to support your application. Take a look and see if it's what you require http://www.accesscard.org.uk


Thanks but none of the symbols are suitable for my limitations although there is a ! which means I would have to answer questions on my condition and limitations each time. It has symbols for vision impaired, deaf and wheelchair or problems queuing or needing help by a friend but none for my own issues such as unable to use stairs or escalators.

It is run by a private company based in the Midlands and isn't accepted nationwide. They state 'Nimbus: Disability Consultancy, Nimbus is one of the countries leading providers of disability related advice and support to business.

We provide a wide range of training and consultancy service and are also the creators of national schemes CredAbility Quality Assurance and The Access Card'
#27
jonnithomas
sazzopardi1971


why ? it's for families with disabled CHILDREN. 'The Max Card is a discount card for foster families and families of children with additional needs. Families simply show their Max Card upon entry to a venue in order to obtain free or discounted admission.'


Sorry, I misread your post. My youngest son is disabled (autistic), as am I (registered deaf).

However, I managed to find this, so I'm not sure if this is ok:

https://www.moneyadviceservice.org.uk/en/articles/money-saving-tips-and-discounts-for-disabled-people
#28
sazzopardi1971
jonnithomas
sazzopardi1971
why ? it's for families with disabled CHILDREN. 'The Max Card is a discount card for foster families and families of children with additional needs. Families simply show their Max Card upon entry to a venue in order to obtain free or discounted admission.'
Sorry, I misread your post. My youngest son is disabled (autistic), as am I (registered deaf).
However, I managed to find this, so I'm not sure if this is ok:https://www.moneyadviceservice.org.uk/en/articles/money-saving-tips-and-discounts-for-disabled-people

thanks for that :) it says...'Proof of disability

Some of the deals available for disabled people will specify that to qualify you need to be ‘registered disabled’ without making it clear what this means.

There is no such thing as a register for disabled people.

A copy of your award letter from the Department for Work and Pensions showing that you are eligible for disability benefits is normally accepted as proof that you’re disabled if you are ever asked.

Alternatively you could show a copy of your blue badge or your disabled bus pass.'

it's not the answer I wanted but it does confirm that weirdly there isn't one. :(

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