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Any advice on the best protein for weight training?

iqba1_a1i Avatar
2y, 4m agoPosted 2 years, 4 months ago
Hi guys.

I've recently got back into weight training and am looking to build up quite a bit of muscle mass hence I'm looking for some help regarding the best protein supplement to go with to help me out with this. I'm on a bit of a budget so there needs to be a good cost/performance ratio and preferably a minimal amount of fat. The ones I'm looking at so far are below and any comments from those who've had any experience with them or who can recommend another that they've had good results with would be greatly appreciated as would any tips on other supplements, training regimes, etc.. Many thanks all!

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Nutrisport-Whey-Protein-Isolate-Chocolate/dp/B0013G4MD6/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1406835499&sr=8-1&keywords=whey+protein+isolate+5kg

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Nutrisport-90-Protein-5Kg-Chocolate/dp/B0013G3GRO/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1406835499&sr=8-2&keywords=whey+protein+isolate+5kg

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Matrix-cost-effective-supplement-conjunction-increasing/dp/B00E5CT794/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1406835499&sr=8-3&keywords=whey+protein+isolate+5kg
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2y, 4m agoPosted 2 years, 4 months ago
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Supplements don't 'bulk you up' training gives you mass. Over time. A long time. These aren't miracle pills or powders.

Sort your training out. Sort your diet out. Then. If you need to supplement your diet with supplements. Then do so.

Whey concentrate is fine and dandy for bioavailability. No need for anything more but....

Train. Train hard. Eat lots. Rest lots.

Go over to UK muscle and read. They're a good bunch over there. A lot of big lifters and will give real, straight up advice.

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#1
Only a beginner but I use Gold Standard Whey Protein Isolate (chocolate), low calories, high protein. I've not put on any fat whilst using it over the past month or so, if anything I've dropped fat and gained a small amount of muscle. Can't comment on any of the ones you've linked, avoid the ones with the most sugar/sweetener is the advice I keep hearing from people who train hard.

I'm sure you already know but remember that protein shakes are only a supplement. If you're on a budget I'd recommend getting pre-cooked frozen chopped chicken breast pieces from ASDA.

£2 a bag, they're pre-cooked so can be microwaved in a few minutes, very low fat and contain 90g of protein per £2 bag (and delicious). Bearing in mind the rule of thumb that you should consume (no more than) 1g of protein per pound of bodyweight per day (e.g 11 stone = 154 pounds = no need for more than 154 grams of protein per day) I find they fit my lifestyle very well. Hope this helps

Edited By: JamesClark1991 on Jul 31, 2014 21:23
#2
JamesClark1991
Only a beginner but I use Gold Standard Whey Protein Isolate (chocolate), low calories, high protein. I've not put on any fat whilst using it over the past month or so, if anything I've dropped fat and gained a small amount of muscle. Can't comment on any of the ones you've linked, avoid the ones with the most sugar/sweetener is the advice I keep hearing from people who train hard.

I'm sure you already know but remember that protein shakes are only a supplement. If you're on a budget I'd recommend getting pre-cooked frozen chopped chicken breast pieces from ASDA.

£2 a bag, they're pre-cooked so can be microwaved in a few minutes, very low fat and contain 90g of protein per £2 bag (and delicious). Bearing in mind the rule of thumb that you should consume (no more than) 1g of protein per pound of bodyweight per day (e.g 11 stone = 154 pounds = no need for more than 154 grams of protein per day) I find they fit my lifestyle very well. Hope this helps

Thanks for that! Can you recommend a supplier for the Gold Standard and I'll check it out? The ones I've listed work out around £8.50-£11 per kilo so I was hoping to get something semi decent (hopeful I know) around that price. I generally get chicken breasts from musclefoods (same company as Westin Gourmet I hear) as they work out around £4 per kilo when I get hold of the offers. Other than that tinned tuna is my saviour when I'm stuck waiting for a delivery.
#3
Can you honestly say that you are unable to consume enough food to satisfy your macros?

Goto a bulk supplier if you need whey though. Don't be duped into sales pitches and glossy adverts/labels

Edited By: Derby_Lad on Jul 31, 2014 21:43
#4
iqba1_a1i
JamesClark1991
Only a beginner but I use Gold Standard Whey Protein Isolate (chocolate), low calories, high protein. I've not put on any fat whilst using it over the past month or so, if anything I've dropped fat and gained a small amount of muscle. Can't comment on any of the ones you've linked, avoid the ones with the most sugar/sweetener is the advice I keep hearing from people who train hard.

I'm sure you already know but remember that protein shakes are only a supplement. If you're on a budget I'd recommend getting pre-cooked frozen chopped chicken breast pieces from ASDA.

£2 a bag, they're pre-cooked so can be microwaved in a few minutes, very low fat and contain 90g of protein per £2 bag (and delicious). Bearing in mind the rule of thumb that you should consume (no more than) 1g of protein per pound of bodyweight per day (e.g 11 stone = 154 pounds = no need for more than 154 grams of protein per day) I find they fit my lifestyle very well. Hope this helps

Thanks for that! Can you recommend a supplier for the Gold Standard and I'll check it out? The ones I've listed work out around £8.50-£11 per kilo so I was hoping to get something semi decent (hopeful I know) around that price. I generally get chicken breasts from musclefoods (same company as Westin Gourmet I hear) as they work out around £4 per kilo when I get hold of the offers. Other than that tinned tuna is my saviour when I'm stuck waiting for a delivery.

I get mine from Amazon personally as it was the cheapest I could find, not saying it's the cheapest about though! - http://www.amazon.co.uk/Optimum-Nutrition-Standard-Strawberry-Protein/dp/B000QSRO1Y
#5
Derby_Lad
Can you honestly say that you are unable to consume enough food to satisfy your macros?

Goto a bulk supplier if you must buy whey. Don't be duped into sales pitches and glossy adverts/labels

I'm slowly building up the amount of protein I eat so am just looking for a supplement to help out until I get there. Ideally looking for a quick working protein to use post workout, brand doesn't matter so long as it does the job. Any recommendations regarding bulk suppliers?
#6
JamesClark1991
iqba1_a1i
JamesClark1991
Only a beginner but I use Gold Standard Whey Protein Isolate (chocolate), low calories, high protein. I've not put on any fat whilst using it over the past month or so, if anything I've dropped fat and gained a small amount of muscle. Can't comment on any of the ones you've linked, avoid the ones with the most sugar/sweetener is the advice I keep hearing from people who train hard.

I'm sure you already know but remember that protein shakes are only a supplement. If you're on a budget I'd recommend getting pre-cooked frozen chopped chicken breast pieces from ASDA.

£2 a bag, they're pre-cooked so can be microwaved in a few minutes, very low fat and contain 90g of protein per £2 bag (and delicious). Bearing in mind the rule of thumb that you should consume (no more than) 1g of protein per pound of bodyweight per day (e.g 11 stone = 154 pounds = no need for more than 154 grams of protein per day) I find they fit my lifestyle very well. Hope this helps

Thanks for that! Can you recommend a supplier for the Gold Standard and I'll check it out? The ones I've listed work out around £8.50-£11 per kilo so I was hoping to get something semi decent (hopeful I know) around that price. I generally get chicken breasts from musclefoods (same company as Westin Gourmet I hear) as they work out around £4 per kilo when I get hold of the offers. Other than that tinned tuna is my saviour when I'm stuck waiting for a delivery.

I get mine from Amazon personally as it was the cheapest I could find, not saying it's the cheapest about though! - http://www.amazon.co.uk/Optimum-Nutrition-Standard-Strawberry-Protein/dp/B000QSRO1Y

That is a fair cost, probably out of my price rang for how long I want to be using it for though. Thanks.
#7
Musclefood.com

Theproteinworks

Gonutrition

Don't over complicate things, eat well and enough, use whey 80.
#8
Crazygooner1
Musclefood.com

Theproteinworks

Gonutrition

Don't over complicate things, eat well and enough, use whey 80.

Thanks. Just checked out those sites and they seem a good deal. Any reason for using the whey 80 over any of the others?
#9
http://www.olympushealth.com 5kg for 33 - 30 if you buy 2 or more!
#10
Danjohnson58
http://www.olympushealth.com 5kg for 33 - 30 if you buy 2 or more!

Thanks for that! There are a number of mixed reviews, one I found said that OH couldn't provide a testing certificate to show what the protein powder actually contains...have you had any experience with using the product and is it any good?
#11
High percentage of soy protein, which has shown to have oestrogen promoting traits, so the opposite of what you want.

When they first came to market, they were deliberately evasive about the percentage of different proteins as its a 'blend'

Fella, just goto a bulk supplier and buy it i na bag, be aware that the chocolate flavours are usually lower in protein content due to the cocoa needed for flavouring.

Myprotein, bulk powders, body building warehouse, go nutrition are a starting point.
#12
Derby_Lad
High percentage of soy protein, which has shown to have oestrogen promoting traits, so the opposite of what you want.

When they first came to market, they were deliberately evasive about the percentage of different proteins as its a 'blend'

Fella, just goto a bulk supplier and buy it i na bag, be aware that the chocolate flavours are usually lower in protein content due to the cocoa needed for flavouring.

Myprotein, bulk powders, body building warehouse, go nutrition are a starting point.

Cheers! I think I'm going to go with gonutrition as they seem to have a decent selection and price point. Would you know why whey 80 would be (if it is at all) better than any other as Crazygooner1 said to use that?
#13
protein is an important source of diet when training. i never use to take any supplements and would be worn down even when i had a healthy diet as i didn't just want to get big. after speaking to few people from the gym and reading articles a lack of the right source of protein has big effects on energy levels. i would try these guys they pretty cheap for supplements as the distributors http://www.ebay.co.uk/usr/clfdistribution?_trksid=p2047675.l2559
also i recommend a nitro supplement after u been training for a while it does give big strength gains and bulk.
#14
iqba1_a1i
Crazygooner1
Musclefood.com

Theproteinworks

Gonutrition

Don't over complicate things, eat well and enough, use whey 80.

Thanks. Just checked out those sites and they seem a good deal. Any reason for using the whey 80 over any of the others?

Basic protein mate and it's all you need to get going.
#15
Cutting it the fat is quite the mistake, and really if you couldn't buy it 50 years ago you likely don't need it. You'd be better off in the long run eating real food than single macro ingredients in bulk. Although it depends if you want straight off bulk or more strength, wish aren't necessarily the same. Non-grain-fed meats, game, fish & poultry over beef, and an often overlooked but cheap source of amino acids for muscle growth: veggies! Greens also somewhat counteract the carcinogenic properties of whey proteins, are generally thought to be better building blocks long-term than meat itself, and provide all-round benefits a single nutrient cannot. You don't generally want you calorie intake to exceed 10% from animal protein, although eggs seem to be beneficial in every way & are well absorbed nutrient-wise compared to 'products' on shelves.

Tl;dr: eat real food, plenty of greens, skip anything with more than 3 ingredients.
#16
Supplements don't 'bulk you up' training gives you mass. Over time. A long time. These aren't miracle pills or powders.

Sort your training out. Sort your diet out. Then. If you need to supplement your diet with supplements. Then do so.

Whey concentrate is fine and dandy for bioavailability. No need for anything more but....

Train. Train hard. Eat lots. Rest lots.

Go over to UK muscle and read. They're a good bunch over there. A lot of big lifters and will give real, straight up advice.
#17
Thanks all for the replies, links and info.

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