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Anyone joined ACN, is it legit or just a scam?

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banned3y, 2m agoPosted 3 years, 2 months ago
hi, just heard about ACN for some extra income being own boss. is there anyone who have joined this company or have any information if it is a legit company to invest money?
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banned3y, 2m agoPosted 3 years, 2 months ago
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#1
ACN is a Multi-level marketing company. Multi-level marketing is another word for Pyramid scheme.

I would be wary of any schemes that make you recruit other staff, especially if they want you to pay money for training / information packs / sales leads / a membership fee.

Edited By: SUMMONER on Sep 24, 2013 19:51: ..
banned#3
i think they charge $499 for a membership and offer different products. After searching on youtube i came to their official channel which looks quite legit as there were more than 20,000 ppl and this company was featured in different magizines plus earning billions. was wandering if anyone here have joined it before or have some knolwedge to share. Basically im looking for a part time job to get some extra income. imreally good in typing bt dont know where to go?
#4
Multi-billionaire Donald J. Trump has agreed to endorse and promote ACN and our vision. Read more and watch the video

i think that says it all
#5
These type of schemes are not really about selling services (telephone/internet connections in the case of ACN), but about you hiring more staff (so you get a cut from their membership fees), who in turn have to hire more staff to make some proper money (and you will likely get a small cut from those membership fees too).
Selling their actual products will make you "some" money if you can persuade people to switch phone/Internet providers, but is that part actually worth paying them £499? I seriously doubt it.

This page is a good read about the ins and outs. link

Here is a page that is a little more critical link

Edited By: SUMMONER on Sep 25, 2013 20:29
#6
hi all anyone in doubt about ACN is completely wrong! its an amazing opportunity iv been with ACN only 6 months and already im making money! follow the right way and you will successed!
banned#7
Its been 3 months since I join acn. I might be different in others as I will say wt is true. So far I have not make anything. I have invested £399 for one year subscription. I bought benievta weight loss which cost me £128. I only received £14.99 which I was promised was 20% of this product bt its really not 20% of wt I have paid so I will ask them how did they calculated this amount. There is no doubt it gives u the opportunity to earn a very big amount bt u really need to work hard.
#8
Sorry to hear that.

What ways have you tried selling the stuff so far?

Personally I would be printing leaflets and putting them up in your newsagents, shops, community centre, supermarket notice boards etc. Then host a few afternoon tea parties, offering taste tests and giving out half price sample packs to take home.



Edited By: SUMMONER on Feb 05, 2014 20:30
banned#9
SUMMONER
Sorry to hear that.

What ways have you tried selling the stuff so far?

Personally I would be printing leaflets and putting them up in your newsagents, shops, community centre, supermarket notice boards etc. Then host a few afternoon tea parties, offering taste tests and giving out half price sample packs to take home.


honestly speaking i have got no training so far, was just introduced by someone who convince me so much that I have joined & I was told that I need to hire more ppl so my position can be changed in order to make real money. Have no idea of selling the stuff I just informed my friends & family members that I have got some stuff which is online. I have no samples or anything. If you could help me I will really appreciate it.
#10
I was told that I need to hire more ppl so my position can be changed in order to make real money
Which is exactly what I told you was going to happen. :(

The company rep you spoke to has no interest in you selling the dietary supplements, as he/she will likely only earn extra commission if you recruit more staff, who in-turn you will have to encourage to recruit more staff, so you can earn a commission off the joining fees they bring in.

You own £128 worth of stock, so you may as well try to recoup some of your money by selling it. You will have to use some of your paid for stock as samples, this is actually quite a common practice for a self employed sales rep.

PS: Please, please, please do not get your family/friends involved with these people.

Edited By: SUMMONER on Feb 05, 2014 21:12: ..
#11
I was called today by a close family friend who is in this scheme and was trying to ours used me into it. After he explained it to me I gathered it was another firm if pyramid selling. I had to be polite with him and told him I would let him know. But I won't be wasting my money.
#12
I was convinced that ACN was too good to be true until my brother joined back in January. He lives in Bradford and I live in Cardiff, so we haven't communicated that much.

However, recently he came down to visit me in Cardiff and I asked him how ACN was coming along. To be honest, I was expecting him to avoid the question and feel embarrassed by the question as if all my past criticism was true and right.

Boy was I wrong! He had signed up only 9 referrals and trained them all to be leaders in their own right and now had a downline of 500+

That wasn't what amazed me. What amazed and (in all honesty) shocked me was the fact that he had earned £16,000 last month and £24,000 this month. Now, my brother doesn't lie to me but I still asked him for proof and he switched on his laptop and showed me the amounts that had been transferred to his bank account.

I don't know if it's long term or short term, but who the hell cares if you can earn tens of thousands of pounds for even a few months! Well worth it.......now it's time for big brother to join and learn something from his baby brother :)
#13
Please ask your brother for a break down of product sales VS recruiting/training more agents.

Edited By: SUMMONER on May 31, 2014 19:56
#14
netmillionaire
I was convinced that ACN was too good to be true until my brother joined back in January. He lives in Bradford and I live in Cardiff, so we haven't communicated that much.

However, recently he came down to visit me in Cardiff and I asked him how ACN was coming along. To be honest, I was expecting him to avoid the question and feel embarrassed by the question as if all my past criticism was true and right.

Boy was I wrong! He had signed up only 9 referrals and trained them all to be leaders in their own right and now had a downline of 500+

That wasn't what amazed me. What amazed and (in all honesty) shocked me was the fact that he had earned £16,000 last month and £24,000 this month. Now, my brother doesn't lie to me but I still asked him for proof and he switched on his laptop and showed me the amounts that had been transferred to his bank account.

I don't know if it's long term or short term, but who the hell cares if you can earn tens of thousands of pounds for even a few months! Well worth it.......now it's time for big brother to join and learn something from his baby brother :)


Pure spam....
suspended#15
Dear friends, don't look dreams with ACN In £399 membership fee they will take your last drop of blood as well. But you can not earn even £50 in a year.
banned#16
HONEST HONEST PERSONAL OPINION: ok here is me again being an ACN member for nearly an year. You may not see any acn member saying this bt this is why I wanted to let everyone know as I was unable to made my mind before joining.
If you can hire more & more people, they all can invest their £399 membership blindly & can hire more who will have to invest their money too, then yes you will make a big money but this is not it every member have to make certain number of points too which is only possible when you buy or sell products or if you can buy ACN services. Most members buy products from their own money as they cant sell or ppl dont buy off them. Although they have lots of ranges of product eg. Virgin, First utility, BT, ACN adapter, bt its still very hard, First Utility is so bad when it comes to contacting their customer service, Virgin will eat your referred members & will treat them as their own (which happened to me). soooooooooo think before investing your hard earned money as I have already invested my money.
suspended#17
Whoever thinks this is a scam , need to ask them self , why is everyone doing it , they need to start listening to successful authors like Robert kiosaki and stop trying to ruin the opportunity for others , ACN isn't based on recruitment like that last guy posted , it's also based on how many customers you would like to have in a month. Honestly do you know of any scam from where if you get enough customers you get to meet and have a picture with Donald trump. So wait your telling me Donald trump is on the scam , attorney generals are in on the scam? , all the top motivational speakers are in on it? .

Honestly guys if anybody tells you it's a scam and doesn't work , I urge you to look at the credibility of the person your listening to or even watching.
Most of these people are sceptical and either have never saw themselves making 30k a month. Or simply haven't gone to see the presentation the self, because there to stubborn to listen to anybody and they think they have the whole world worked out.

Thus leading people to think its a too good to be true scam because they think they can find it all out from there all knowing google.

Last word of advice if you've been a failure in life without money that's ok , if your not sociable and not self motivated , that's ok , however If your not coachable and willing to listen and learn from others don't join ACN because you will make no money.

Just be coachable to acctual people in the business and you can make not only money but personally develop your confidence and people skills.
#18
lol nearly all the guys praising this scheme are new members with a single post...most definatey spam
#19
people are so ignorant as if any kind of spam would go into so much detail and be so passionate. I refuse to go into some long writing as ignorance is bliss but just know acn is NOT A SCAM nor is it a pyramid scheme. If you did your research you know that pyramids schemes are in fact illegal. ..
#20
lot of one post members with there fake reviews
#21
Well I wouldn't join ACN myself, but I believe they are not illegal.

Pyramid schemes are illegal, think Charles Ponzi and Berni Madoff, according to Wikipedia, this isn't. Apparently the pyramid scheme accusations where found to be the actions of some independent ACN reps. You can read about that in the link below:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ACN_Inc.#Criticism

I don't have great confidence with Multi-level marketing (what ACN basically is) but then again I'm not qualified to give financial advice :D
#22
Uncles just been scammed into this clear cut pyramid scheme. Neighbour actually made a statement in saying its genuinely not a pyramidal scheme. But it clearly is. Within an hour my uncle signed up to this scheme. The rep shown no indifference and clearly didn't care much about the actual product but prioritised over selling the licence rather than the product. If someone believes so much in a product shouldn't their passion lie in the product itself? Shouldn't you give the 'victim' a day or so to think about buying into this scheme? Remember if a products good enough it would sell itself. But the money clearly isn't in the products but more so into the recruitment phase. He used all the classic selling techniques. Sheep factor. Sense of urgency and classic over compensation over something thats completely basic. Ive found when someone approches you telling you theres this once in a lifetime opportunity and its exclusive. Its usually a desperate need to forfil and compensate for their crazy investments. A desperate need to make some money back. They prey on the weak amd submissive. The guy could not come close to convincing me its a legitimate opportunity.
#23
I'd just like to welcome all the first time commenters.
-industry
#24
Clearly, the person who tried to explain ACN to your uncle had no idea what he doing. The opportunity is shared, reps are not supposed to convince others to become a rep.

As for Pyramid Scheme, then please read wikipedia for a better understanding because you unfortunately do not understand what one is.

As for selling the license, then there is no such thing. If a rep was to sign up 5,000 reps and everyone of them payed the £390.00 license fee, not a single penny would be made by the rep.

Reps only make money when customers are acquired or the reps they sign up become customers themselves or acquire customers.

100% Money is made via customer acquisition and that is it.
#25
hmmmm

I remember the days of Amway and the presentations are the same with this company

it's not about selling product it's about recruiting others to recruit others

possibly nothing wrong with this as long as you are aware of the real situation

do question that they chose Donald Trump as a figurehead? really?
#26
ACN is way of brainwashing young people. ACN makes their money mainly through membership fee,that's why they encourage members to join other people to this legal scum rather than the services they offer which are the worst companies anyway, so no suprise there. This is based on attending their various meetings and researching their services. Don't waste your money kids.
#27
It is a scam, from the sort that they will not only bind you with most of their useless, uberpriced services but anyone who you brought onto it, by using the bond and trust you have with your close ones. You will not only loose money, you will end up in a position that noone will look at you the same.. anyone you sell their stuff or you bring in below you so if youre in UK, and someone tells you how you can make money.

I am proud I didnt fall for it and here is how they hook you in:

When you hear about it, you do not hear the name ACN and thats because you can only go search google and find the mess and heartache they left in usa and canada.

You will be invited to a convention under the pretense that they are thinking of joining but in fact, they are in, they got their services, they scamed their moma, brother, sister, friend, gf, inlaws, etc. And they think that the only way to get out is to bring more people under them who will rinse and repeat :)

Anyway, I was at the conference, all the boasting they do, the first rep, a young guy in his third week with ACN, told us his story how he started and he said that he sold services to aunty, got some for himself etc.

The guy that was with me spilled the beans when we went in at the door he said hes a rep to let him through and knew everybody organising it!

So as soon as the name came up, found it on google, and anyone here should read the complains they make in USA.
#28
I totally disagree with all the negative people and negative comments that they have given about acn. There is plenty of money to be made but it all depends on your ability to do something,your ability to work hard. You can't just sit on your backsides and expect money to come rolling in. Treat it like you would a business then watch how it works for you. Last but not least the person saying who you don't even earn £50 a year well my sister's doing acn and made £60 in her last month bonus, so really don't know where your coming from. Stop being so negative and let people get on with it.
#29
ACN is borderline legal as it is very much like a pyramid scheme (which are illegal in the UK). however because it offers products that makes it legal.

i have lost respect for many idiots who have contacted me with the ''once in a lifetime business oppurtunity'' speech which they cant explain unless i go to the meeting etc.

The scam is both simple & complex which i will try explain as i myself signed up with them but got my money back after i realised what was involved...

part with £400 & become a rep
pay £20 a month for the upkeep of your ACN back office (no one will tell you about this ongoing fee until you signed up)
pay £100 a year for the upkeep of your ACN website
get lured into buying the services yourself (duped into the idea of earning points/climb the ladder)
get pressured by your upline to recruit more reps (who in turn will buy the services themselves to earn points)
go through your phone contact list (warm market)
sell the value less services or licence to friends and family who will buy into it solely out of trust in you
get knocked back by the people intelligent to know its a scam
get cursed by the people who once trusted you for selling them outdated non competitive priced products
feel like crap because you just conned your family and friends and are still losing money yourself
watch a ACN motivational video or attend a fickle seminar so fake and hype charged to make you feel better

the reality is whoever signs up (becomes a minion) must slit the throat of as many people he knows to sign up too so that when you've sacrificed enough people (your downline) then a small percentage starts coming your way.

but at what cost???

the ACN crowd must hang out together (a veteran rep told me this). why? so that they can push one another and keep morale high. why? because the rest of the world are cursing them. which leads a lot of the reps to depression. so they need to go to these synthetic ACN meetings and get a metal pin badge and recognition in front of big crowds so that they feel good about ripping off there family & friends & not feel the natural guilt or shame for there actions.

Donald Trump???
he gets paid to attend their bogus seminars and say a few words.

it doesnt mean if Donald Trump is endorsing it then its a good thing. Donald Trump is not Jesus!
Donald Trump has filed for bankruptcy numerous times & is as crooked as the founders of this cult like venture
ACN has also been taken to court previously because of their practices

ask any ACN rep exactly how much are they making and you wont get a straight forward answer. why? because of their outgoings as reps who inevitably have to become customers the return is pocket change. those reps who's greed is so much they signed up everyone irrespective of anything (including ethics) will obviously make more money eventually. but again i ask...

at what cost???

my conclusion: i would rather drive a crappy car and be happy and able to look people in the eyes than drive a sports car but feel like a thief and unable to make eye contact with the people who have lost respect for me.

my advice: STAY AWAY FROM ACN
#30
Multi-level marketing company. its not a pyramid honest :)
#31
galsoom
Last but not least the person saying who you don't even earn £50 a year well my sister's doing acn and made £60 in her last month bonus, so really don't know where your coming from. Stop being so negative and let people get on with it.

£60 in a month? Get in there, where do I sign up?
#32
my daughter wants to join acn i told her i have not heard of them before so i decided to check out the reviews i am not impress...dont they have a contract and i did say to her if they talk about membership keep your distance....i want her to find a secured job they are trying to brainwash the youngsters,she has not got the money to join i am not comfortable with the idea, also because she is young they are trying to take advantage they better not i wont TOLERATE I WILL TAKE ACTION....BACK OFF ACN
banned#33
ppl may not tell you about contract but yes there is a membership joining fee which also includes online training. 1 year membership is £399. Then they may ask her to signup for YBA (your business tool) which keeps you uptade about your downling reporting & CAB (Customer accusation bonus) etc. YBA is £15/pm while YBA plus is £20.40/pm. They will also ask her to sign up for ACN adapter or other products to earn points. Why will they ask her to signup for these products is to let them gain profit & promotions. Every member when sell something or signup for something gets points & their upline also gets points plus some percentage of profit too.
#34
qashjee
ppl may not tell you about contract but yes there is a membership joining fee which also includes online training. 1 year membership is £399. Then they may ask her to signup for YBA (your business tool) which keeps you uptade about your downling reporting & CAB (Customer accusation bonus) etc. YBA is £15/pm while YBA plus is £20.40/pm. They will also ask her to sign up for ACN adapter or other products to earn points. Why will they ask her to signup for these products is to let them gain profit & promotions. Every member when sell something or signup for something gets points & their upline also gets points plus some percentage of profit too.
and its not a pyramid honest guv
banned#35
I do agree with you its not a pyramid but wt ppl do to make more profit is completly wrong. Making your members isnt the right way to make profit. on ACN it says The real profit comes through customers. But making that real profit isnt easy. I may have mentioned earlier one of their product is selling VIRGIN Services. Whoever is interested you have to fill their details on ACN's Virgin page & someone from virgin team will give them a ring. Problem is Once virgin ppl got details of customer they dont give your reference to get their own profit & hence you will lost that customer. Another product is First Utility (cheapest energy providers) Worst customer services ever, takes to more than 40 minutes to hold before someone picks it up to discuss your problem.
banned#36
I do agree with you its not a pyramid but wt ppl do to make more profit is completly wrong. Making your members isnt the right way to make profit. on ACN it says The real profit comes through customers. But making that real profit isnt easy. I may have mentioned earlier one of their product is selling VIRGIN Services. Whoever is interested you have to fill their details on ACN's Virgin page & someone from virgin team will give them a ring. Problem is Once virgin ppl got details of customer they dont give your reference, they get their own profit by contacting them directly & you will loose that customer. Another product is First Utility (cheapest energy providers) Worst customer services ever, takes to more than 40 minutes to hold before someone picks it up to discuss your problem.

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