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The Apple unlock database...how does it work?

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How does the Apple unlock database work? I have been trying to get my iPhone 6 unlocked with Tesco but they still can't do it they tell me because Apple have not given them permission! I can go onto E… Read More
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2y, 6m agoPosted 2 years, 6 months ago
How does the Apple unlock database work? I have been trying to get my iPhone 6 unlocked with Tesco but they still can't do it they tell me because Apple have not given them permission! I can go onto EBay and get a third party to do it though? Who charges what to process the unlock? Is there anyone in the unlock business that can explain it for me?
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2y, 6m agoPosted 2 years, 6 months ago
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banned#1
phone is too new to unlock I think
#2
yep the phones too new.

Ebay sellers have a way around it.
#3
I guessed that but how? Surely if Apple control it why can I get a phone unlocked with say Vodafone but not another network? What the hell has it got to do with Apple how new it it is, the network must have paid Apple for the device so surely it is up to them whether they supply it locked or not. 3 supply unlocked now so why does Apple not stop that? I know it won't help me but I would really like to know who really does control what happens in that DB.
#4
It works like this:
1. Apple issues IMEI numbers for phones to 'A' provider (i.e. Vodafone). From that moment phone is 'locked' and can only be activated by Vodafone sim card.
2. When you put another SIM card to your phone iOS is activating phone again. If phone is locked apple will decline activation.
3. When you remove SIM lock from iPhone it has to go to 'owner' of IMEI number (i.e. Vodafone), who has to notify apple that they wish to remove SIM lock from that phone.

Third parties work in another manner. They do have a deals with providers, and buy IMEI numbers off them. Since apple does not allow transferring SIM lock to another provided, effectively they unlock phone in order to use it. Original provider still have to be paid off. Whole point of them holding IMEI number is to be able to offer phone at subsidised price as it can only be used on their own network. It will not work on any other network, anywhere on the world.

Please, do not also make mistake thinking that if mobile network operator in another country has the same name (i.e. Vodafone UK and Vodafone Germany) then SIM card will work on both. SIM lock is applied to network CODE (completely unique), not name.

Apple will not remove SIM lock from your phone, as they do not own this IMEI anymore. Only owner of IMEI number can request this IMEI to be transferred back to 'genuine apple unlocked' database.


Edited By: yeramihi on Jan 04, 2015 10:03
#5
yeramihi
It works like this:
1. Apple issues IMEI numbers for phones to 'A' provider (i.e. Vodafone). From that moment phone is 'locked' and can only be activated by Vodafone sim card.
2. When you put another SIM card to your phone iOS is activating phone again. If phone is locked apple will decline activation.
3. When you remove SIM lock from iPhone it has to go to 'owner' of IMEI number (i.e. Vodafone), who has to notify apple that they wish to remove SIM lock from that phone.
Third parties work in another manner. They do have a deals with providers, and buy IMEI numbers off them. Since apple does not allow transferring SIM lock to another provided, effectively they unlock phone in order to use it. Original provider still have to be paid off. Whole point of them holding IMEI number is to be able to offer phone at subsidised price as it can only be used on their own network. It will not work on any other network, anywhere on the world.
Please, do not also make mistake thinking that if mobile network operator in another country has the same name (i.e. Vodafone UK and Vodafone Germany) then SIM card will work on both. SIM lock is applied to network CODE (completely unique), not name.
Apple will not remove SIM lock from your phone, as they do not own this IMEI anymore. Only owner of IMEI number can request this IMEI to be transferred back to 'genuine apple unlocked' database.

Thanks for that, most of it I knew but did not know that third parties bought Imei numbers...interesting..
I still don't get why Tesco are telling me that Apple won't allow them to unlock 6's yet? Apple sell them unlocked, they supply them unlocked to 3. Surely if Tesco want to unlock Apple shouldn't be able to stop them or is this just Tesco bs?
#6
why dont you try to pay to get it unlocked from ebay?
#7
mosskeeto


Thanks for that, most of it I knew but did not know that third parties bought IMEI numbers...interesting..
I still don't get why Tesco are telling me that Apple won't allow them to unlock 6's yet? Apple sell them unlocked, they supply them unlocked to 3. Surely if Tesco want to unlock Apple shouldn't be able to stop them or is this just Tesco bs?

As Tesco does not have its own network it's using another provider to supply with service. Hence phone being locked to Three network (I think it's three, might be another one). Tesco cannot request this phone to be unlocked as they do not own IMEI number. It's down to Three to request this unlock.

Most (if not all) providers on the market are not willing to unlock best selling handsets from their networks shortly after they were launched. Business reasons - keep them on their own network. If you want unlocked - but from apple, it you want on another network - buy directly from that provider, at price they requested.

Also, I probably should explain a bit more: when third party is buying IMEI number, I did not mean buying, but 'buying'. Effectively they pay provider to request this phone to be unlocked, as only original owner can make this request. Most providers do have agreements with some companies who provide that kind of service. They do have agreement in place, they release IMEI number at lowered cost, depending on amount of requests they will have per month (or any other arrangement they might have).

So, no. It's not Tesco's BS at the moment. If you want to have this phone unlocked, I'd try with Three (or whoever applied SIM lock to it). That's your best call. But given that this is few months old model they might refuse. And third parties cannot guarantee that they will work.

Beware - there are some scammers who claims that they can unlock iPhone (like those small mobile stalls on markets). What they do is they create special network and hijack communication with apple activation servers, so when you enter different SIM card in your phone, it will looks like it has been unlocked. But when you change SIM card again, SIM lock is being reinstated. If you want to properly remove SIM lock from iPhone, the only guaranteed way is to get operator who applied SIM lock to remove it.
#8
Aadilp789
why dont you try to pay to get it unlocked from ebay?
#9
Makes sense mate cheap and faster

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