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I bought a second hand CD (Disturbed - Believe), my PC cannot recognise the CD (the CD drive just don't appear). It works fine with other CDs, and I can listen to it on my car radio. I wanted to rip … Read More
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6d, 9h agoPosted 6 days, 9 hours ago
I bought a second hand CD (Disturbed - Believe), my PC cannot recognise the CD (the CD drive just don't appear). It works fine with other CDs, and I can listen to it on my car radio. I wanted to rip the tracks so that I can put them on my phone. Any ideas of what I could do to make it work, I have cleaned the CD, rebooted etc. TIA
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6d, 9h agoPosted 6 days, 9 hours ago
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#1
Whats the condition of the surface like? Try it in another CD Drive.
#2
M1sterDeeds
Whats the condition of the surface like? Try it in another CD Drive.

can listen to it on my car radio.
#3
M1sterDeeds
Whats the condition of the surface like? Try it in another CD Drive.
It works fine in my car radio, so the CD is fine, and CD drive on my computer reads other Audio CDs with no issues at all. This CD apparently as some Video files, but my PC should be able to read this too
#4
sounds like a format read issue on the pc
#5
jeannot18
M1sterDeeds
Whats the condition of the surface like? Try it in another CD Drive.
It works fine in my car radio, so the CD is fine, and CD drive on my computer reads other Audio CDs with no issues at all. This CD apparently as some Video files, but my PC should be able to read this too

The fact that it works in another drive doesn't always equate to the CD being 'fine'. I've had some CDs that work in one machine but not another. Usually if the disk is scratched. Where one CD drive is better at 'reading' than other drives.

Anyway just trying to be helpful. I wouldn't assume anything with PC's and I will always try diagnose problems by eliminating suspect culprits.
#6
Could be something daft like copy protection. I'll check to see if it's on the internet, it's rare but copy protection has been on cds alot in the past.
#7
Just remember that Sony got busted for putting rootkits on some older CDs.
#8
Is it a copied cd in +RW that your pc doesn't recognise for some reason?
Is it copyright protected?.....sometimes they don't work in pc's......you tube shows you how to make a copy that will work.
And no it's not illegal to copy cd's for personal use......the moral police will disagree.....
#9
Not it's an original CD, I will check YouTube when I am back at home as they block it at work. Thanks
#10
Just a thought but if you say the CD may have videos on it, then it could have an 'autorun' program too. If you haven't disabled this function on your PC (which is a must from a security POV) then it might be this that's stopping your computer from access.

Another option would be to try a Linux OS (just a temp USB or Cd OS distro) and rip from there. Worst case, you could use a program like Audacity to record the tracks directly from another source but that really is a "last resort" option!

As others have said, I'd definitely say the issue is with the Cd and the way it's tracks are structured - possibly having a boot track (a bit like a partition) for the video part. This is probably why it's fine in your car. It would more than likely work fine in a dvd player that handles Cd's too.

I seem to remember a 'loooooooong' time ago that by running the ripping program first - THEN insert the Cd - helped, as the program did the disk scan as opposed to Windows and stomped on autorun/Vcd sections. Maybe try that if you haven't already? Out of interest, what program are you using?

Regards, Phsy.
#11
https://m.theregister.co.uk/2002/05/14/marker_pens_sticky_tape_crack/

Read this, it should explain why the PC strugles to read the disc. Normally it's beacause the outer track is corrupt which freaks out the PC but standard cd players just ignore it.

Pretty sure your best option is to rip the tracks raw with a program like dbpoweramp. You could try EAC to see if this can do it.
#12
Phsycronix and Kester thank you!!, I will try that this week, if not never mind I will just listen to it in my car
#13
Slightly confused by what you are saying. Is the disk recognised at all or not (not just as a audio)

I.e. in my computer if you open/right click and browse/explore the disk does it open the drive folder and show you the video files (even if empty) or does it physically eject and state insert disk.

If former then you can use alternative software to look and grab out the different types contained like Phsycronix is suggesting although personally would suggest isobuster. If later then your machine is not managing to recognise at all making this unfeasible
#14
Bertz99
Slightly confused by what you are saying. Is the disk recognised at all or not (not just as a audio)
I.e. in my computer if you open/right click and browse/explore the disk does it open the drive folder and show you the video files (even if empty) or does it physically eject and state insert disk.
If former then you can use alternative software to look and grab out the different types contained like Phsycronix is suggesting although personally would suggest isobuster. If later then your machine is not managing to recognise at all making this unfeasible

It's a multi-session CD, called Enhanced-CD or Bluebook. Either the drive doesn't like the standard or something else is preventing it from playing. I would try it in another machine or optical drive.



https://www.discogs.com/Disturbed-Believe/release/4792729
or https://www.discogs.com/Disturbed-Believe/release/8294203

http://www.alfred.com/sub_software/techsupport/products/ecd.html
#15
kester76
It's a multi-session CD, called Enhanced-CD or Bluebook. Either the drive doesn't like the standard or something else is preventing it from playing. I would try it in another machine or optical drive.https://www.discogs.com/Disturbed-Believe/release/4792729or https://www.discogs.com/Disturbed-Believe/release/8294203http://www.alfred.com/sub_software/techsupport/products/ecd.html

The op doesn't actually say if the disk is recognised at all- just that it does not appear as recognised as audio - hence clarifying the two permuations.

Yes multi session etc are differing ISO standards hence why if it is recognised by the drive and presented to the OS (albeit maybe not as expected) then the tool I am aware that can grab out what the op is after is isobuster that has been going for quite some time.

If not getting that far at all (disk rejected completely) then yes agree only options are another machine/drive.
#16
Bertz99
Slightly confused by what you are saying. Is the disk recognised at all or not (not just as a audio)
I.e. in my computer if you open/right click and browse/explore the disk does it open the drive folder and show you the video files (even if empty) or does it physically eject and state insert disk.
If former then you can use alternative software to look and grab out the different types contained like Phsycronix is suggesting although personally would suggest isobuster. If later then your machine is not managing to recognise at all making this unfeasible
Not recognised at all, the drive letter does not appear nor in explorer or Windows Media Player. All other CD (audio, data etc) work perfectly fine.
#17
jeannot18
Not recognised at all, the drive letter does not appear nor in explorer or Windows Media Player. All other CD (audio, data etc) work perfectly fine.


As Kester76 is saying then got to try and extract it off another machine or drive :(
#18
Bertz99
jeannot18
Not recognised at all, the drive letter does not appear nor in explorer or Windows Media Player. All other CD (audio, data etc) work perfectly fine.
As Kester76 is saying then got to try and extract it off another machine or drive :(
Yes I will have to do that, I have installed Isobuster but it cannot see the drive either, so I take it that my CD drive is not up to read enhanced CD, thanks to everyone for offering help and solutions
#19
Could be a dodgy batch of CDs, no one really bothered with the enhanced CD part as it was mostly crappy apple quicktime stuff. There's a DVD-Audio release of this album that's multi channel and would be a nice find.

It's an old standard that isn't even a certified compact disc standard. I think there's some out there with microsoft enhanced sound as well which gave you a slightly better sound.

I find the old liteon drive supported the most standards with some weird amiga stuff and other stuff like dao and tao that I've forgotten :(

Check out this link for a refresher http://whatis.techtarget.com/reference/Fast-Guide-to-CD-DVD

Hard to think that a lot of these formats might be forgotten in the next decade due to being obsolete.
#20
Try to rip the whole CD with "imgburn" and dissect out the audio trax from the ISO file created .. sounds like a non-std CD format..

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