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i see a lot of posts for international mobiles, which i assume are going to be running custom roms such as cyanogen. i personally have a redmi note 3, came with miui, but i installed cyanogenmod 13. I… Read More
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7m, 2w agoPosted 7 months, 2 weeks ago
i see a lot of posts for international mobiles, which i assume are going to be running custom roms such as cyanogen. i personally have a redmi note 3, came with miui, but i installed cyanogenmod 13. I bank with lloyds and this worked well for a long time, but without an update or changes it stopped and says it will not work on a rooted phone - mine is not rooted, root is off, i assume they can see not just root, but other changes like it being a custom rom, i know there is no way round it,even with root cloaking apps, since its not just looking at root.
- my question is has anyone found a rom that works with banking apps? either the way the rom was created means it gets through banking app checks, or its just well designed? I know it affects lloyds, barclays and i assume a number of others so there must be a fair few of you with this problem?
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7m, 2w agoPosted 7 months, 2 weeks ago
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#1
In very short terms the answer is no nothing will get around this. It is for your own security as you never know what malicious code might be built into the rom you installed. For example after downloading the file did you check the files md5sum before flashing to your phone, as very a simple check to ensure you even downloaded the correct rom and you thought you did? This is always a big thing also about buying imported devices that many already come rooted or unlocked bootloaders and as you may have seen headlines about malicious code and spyware already being in the device.
The below article shows how much more serious they are even taking it with android 7.1 security features checking the hash upon each device start.

XDA Dev article

Official Google Verified boot details from android 7.1

Edited By: cecilmcroberts on Oct 13, 2016 22:31
#2
art of me thinks this is scare tactics by the big players or resellers . CPW selling the ltest apple or samsung device at £50 per month is earning them more then my cheap sim only tariff and purchased online chinese phone.
there may be hacks and back doors but you could say that about anything made in china./ abroad.
I do feel pretty safe with a device that is so popular within the indian market (i believe that is correct about the note 3 - isn't it a indian made device? and a os as popular as Cyanogen - they seem to be moving in the right places.
#3
I think it depends on how the banking app checks for root etc. Niantic updated Pokemon Go a while back so that rooted phones could no longer play it. The solution was Magisk (developer's XDA Magisk thread). It's a systemless root so not a root cloaker. A later Pokemon Go update stopped the Magisk method from working so it depends on what method the app uses to detect things. However this post dated end of August claims Magisk allows for Barclays app to work with CM13 and root. The installation process looks very tedious though and may not be worth the effort since it's not guaranteed to work.
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t3rm3y
art of me thinks this is scare tactics by the big players or resellers . CPW selling the ltest apple or samsung device at £50 per month is earning them more then my cheap sim only tariff and purchased online chinese phone.
there may be hacks and back doors but you could say that about anything made in china./ abroad.
I do feel pretty safe with a device that is so popular within the indian market (i believe that is correct about the note 3 - isn't it a indian made device? and a os as popular as Cyanogen - they seem to be moving in the right places.

In all honesty I thought that myself but it is more of a kickback regarding how people rate iOS being a more secure platform and google reacting to ensuring they can make as secure as possible. In the article they do say it will be possible to place another rom onto the device but not in the since we are used to at present. Don't forget also CPW are selling the OnePlus range now. Cyanogen might be popular at present but something is happening on that front and despite them coming out to rebuff those comments they do have less of a dev team working fulltime on it now than before.
#5
Use xposed then root cloak, works on some banks apparently
#6
LOL google, boot of trust...it sells every bit of data it can about you, but wants to stop others and monopolise that market .

Google needs to go Apple & Windows 10 Mobile...stop giving manufacturers control of OS updates and people will stop unlockng bootloaders. Simple.
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seaniboy
LOL google, boot of trust...it sells every bit of data it can about you, but wants to stop others and monopolise that market .

Google needs to go Apple & Windows 10 Mobile...stop giving manufacturers control of OS updates and people will stop unlockng bootloaders. Simple.


Oh dear. There's always one.
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Qrunch
Use xposed then root cloak, works on some banks apparently


unfortunately not on Lloyds and I dont think works with. Barclays either according to web. I dont think it's root that I have to hide as root is reactive in the ROMs developer settings and I can't see root folders.I am sure the app can see its a custom ROM and that's what I need to block or change. a Samsung phone could revert back to a stock Samsung ROM and be OK. bit July phone appears to have miui as stock(which other forums say blocks the apps too) or cyanogen. its a shame as I liked the app. it was quick and simple to use and was the reason I didn't want the phone rooted.even the bootloader was relocked when flashed to cyanogen.

Edited By: t3rm3y on Oct 15, 2016 14:31: edit

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