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Hi, I have just been quoted ~£3,000 to have a new bathroom fitted. Price include removing the old bathroom, and tiles (walls and floor). Fitting new suite (bath, double sink, shower (wet room type) an… Read More
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6m, 2d agoPosted 6 months, 2 days ago
Hi, I have just been quoted ~£3,000 to have a new bathroom fitted. Price include removing the old bathroom, and tiles (walls and floor). Fitting new suite (bath, double sink, shower (wet room type) and toilet). Tiling walls and floor (~25m2), painting ceiling and walls, some electrical work, hanging a new door. Price does not include any of the materials except for tile adhesive. I have used these guys before and I was quite happy with the workmanship. I think the price seems pretty ok (about 10 days of work), what do you think
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#1
It all depends what your getting, i.e. quality, quantity etc. Every bathroom is different

My Mam & Dad just had theirs done for about £5K - this included the bathroom suite, plastering, tiling, stripping out old etc

Edit just noticed you said its work only, If they work 10 full days its £300 quid a day thats actually quite a lot in my opinion

Edited By: Crazy Chris on Jan 19, 2017 14:35
#2
For two men skilled at what they do £150/ea day is fine.
#3
Depends on area , etc .. Bathroom fitters charging stupid money now .. Cos they can
#4
3 is abit high for some but I suppose if u don't want to do anything ur self it seems resonable. is it a separate bath and shower suite then it seems about fair if u know they do a good job. but I would at least get them to commit to all the electric and plumbing for say radiator in aswell bit pointless getting a separate person come in for 1 extractor fan on a few shaver type sockets if they can't do it try get them to sort it out anyway.
#5
The 10 day thing brings the same comments .. Not bad for 2 guys for 10 days work . I doubt it's anywhere near a 10 day job , probably half of that , at a push .. It's just to justify the price .
#6
It's not a bad price, could maybe be a little cheaper but if you're happy with there work I'd say go for that, nothing worse than getting it done badly and having lots of issues afterwards.
I've just had nothing but leaks since I had my bathroom done - think I've got them all now.
But the bath waste and overflow leaked, the sink waste leaked and the shower screen leaked. Took quite a bit of work to isolate all of the causes
#7
And you just getting a walk in wet room type shower? No screen , no tray? Just a drench shower in corner ?
#8
Thanks guys, wet room will have 2 screen one along and one at the end to stop the water splashing everywhere. They will deal with all the electrics too and fans etc. I think i could get it a bit cheaper, but as I said i trust these guys and everything they did so far has always been good workmanship, thanks for the input
J
#9
everything is getting expensive, I have been quoted 4200 to supply and fit but I'm getting my own tiles, that's the cheapest, but I'm struggling to get out of him the brand and model of what he wants to fit.
#10
Count the hours up they do .. The 90minute breaks , the time at the " supplier" etc .. The 10 days will amount to about 50-60 hours max. My mate had just had his done by his nephew ( a bathroom fitter ) took 5 days .. Full retile , bath , shower the whole lot and he was on his own . So 10 days is ludicrous .. But it justifies the price .

Edited By: plodging on Jan 19, 2017 16:00: Spelling
#11
jeannot18
Thanks guys, wet room will have 2 screen one along and one at the end to stop the water splashing everywhere. They will deal with all the electrics too and fans etc. I think i could get it a bit cheaper, but as I said i trust these guys and everything they did so far has always been good workmanship, thanks for the input
J

Mine was 4k (including supply of materials) and wasn't too happy with it unfortunately (friend of my other half). I'd say if you have first hand experience and trust their workmanship its not a bad price at all.
#12
If they are professionals then it shouldn't take ten days.

Removal of old suite shouldn't take long, it's the removing of the old tiles that will take some time, but ten days?
#13
Bigfootpete
If they are professionals then it shouldn't take ten days.
Removal of old suite shouldn't take long, it's the removing of the old tiles that will take some time, but ten days?
but if they quoted 3k for 4 - 5 days people will say I ain't paying £650 a day .. So they drag it out for 10 .. £300 a day .. People seem happy . Why work harder for half the rate when you can drag the job out and get more for less .

Edited By: plodging on Jan 19, 2017 16:36
#14
hi I need a bathroom fitter have everything already just need installing can anybody recommend a good reasonable priced fitter that can do electrics as well in the Llandudno north Wales area? please thanks in advance
#15
They said 10 days maximum but probably more like 7 days, it's just in case they run into problem as you never know what they can find when they start removing the old stuff
#16
jeannot18
They said 10 days maximum but probably more like 7 days, it's just in case they run into problem as you never know what they can find when they start removing the old stuff
Cool a mere £430 a day then . Don't get me wrong ,unless you know someone that's what you going to be paying .. Mindboggling
Based on a Monday to Friday 20 day month ,£8500 a month ain't too shabby is it .


Edited By: plodging on Jan 19, 2017 17:52: Spelling
#17
plodging
jeannot18
They said 10 days maximum but probably more like 7 days, it's just in case they run into problem as you never know what they can find when they start removing the old stuff
Cool a mere £430 a day then . Don't get me wrong ,unless you know someone that's what you going to be paying .. Mindboggling
Based on a Monday to Friday 20 day month ,£8500 a month ain't too shabby is it .
when you look at it that way, yes it is. But I prefer to pay a little bit more and have a top job done at then end, i wish i could find someone cheaper and still doing a good job, but that's the problem with builders, unless someone is recommended you are going blind. I will try to get the quote slightly down if it's possible though
#18
You are paying the going rate . I went through this last year and eventually found a guy ( friend of friend sort of) who did it for less than half the other quotes . And did a brilliant job . But it's luck we happened to find him and he needed money for xmas . All the other quotes were £2700- £3000 ... Going rate .
#19
We got our wetroom done downstairs and it's cost us 1700 fitting shower sink toilet tiles, we provided materials and am very happy with the job
#20
Price isn't to bad, they will have built in a contingency to cover unforeseen expenses, and they will add a bit above an hourly rate to cover things like they don't get holiday pay, haggling may save you a few quid. More importantly, ensure that they are fully insured - ask to see the Insurance cert, note the insurance company and cert number and call the Insurance company. They will need to have insurance to cover personal injury and damage to your property. Ensure that a certified electrician carries out all electrical work. Ensure that a pressure test is carried out and signed off on the plumbing system. Check the workmanship is to your satisfaction, it is called snagging in the trade (Use a professional to do this if you don't feel like arguing over the little things - if you dont know some one try http://www.sitesnagging.co.uk/ for ideas). Make it clear from the off that the job must be started and completed without a break (No going off because some old lady called about a blocked toilet and not coming back for 3 days). And most important, this is only about a weeks work so pay absolutely nothing until the job is completed to your satisfaction. This should all be discussed as part of the haggling process
#21
shahsheh
Price isn't to bad, they will have built in a contingency to cover unforeseen expenses, and they will add a bit above an hourly rate to cover things like they don't get holiday pay, haggling may save you a few quid. More importantly, ensure that they are fully insured - ask to see the Insurance cert, note the insurance company and cert number and call the Insurance company. They will need to have insurance to cover personal injury and damage to your property. Ensure that a certified electrician carries out all electrical work. Ensure that a pressure test is carried out and signed off on the plumbing system. Check the workmanship is to your satisfaction, it is called snagging in the trade (Use a professional to do this if you don't feel like arguing over the little things - if you dont know some one try http://www.sitesnagging.co.uk/ for ideas). Make it clear from the off that the job must be started and completed without a break (No going off because some old lady called about a blocked toilet and not coming back for 3 days). And most important, this is only about a weeks work so pay absolutely nothing until the job is completed to your satisfaction. This should all be discussed as part of the haggling process
Count the hours they actually spend " on the job" see what hourly rate really is.
#22
plodging
jeannot18
They said 10 days maximum but probably more like 7 days, it's just in case they run into problem as you never know what they can find when they start removing the old stuff
Cool a mere £430 a day then . Don't get me wrong ,unless you know someone that's what you going to be paying .. Mindboggling
Based on a Monday to Friday 20 day month ,£8500 a month ain't too shabby is it .


it's not that simple

that is assuming they are doing paid work for 20 days per month ...

they will not be fully booked up

they have accounts to do / supplies to buy / etc etc

they do not get paid holidays

they have to pay all there own NI payments

tehy have overheads such as a vehicle to pay for etc etc

so it's not £8.5k per month in their pocket ....

EliTom
#23
elitom
plodging
jeannot18
They said 10 days maximum but probably more like 7 days, it's just in case they run into problem as you never know what they can find when they start removing the old stuff
Cool a mere £430 a day then . Don't get me wrong ,unless you know someone that's what you going to be paying .. Mindboggling
Based on a Monday to Friday 20 day month ,£8500 a month ain't too shabby is it .
it's not that simple
that is assuming they are doing paid work for 20 days per month ...
they will not be fully booked up
they have accounts to do / supplies to buy / etc etc
they do not get paid holidays
they have to pay all there own NI payments
tehy have overheads such as a vehicle to pay for etc etc
so it's not £8.5k per month in their pocket ....
EliTom
Funnily enough I have offtakes at the end of the month too. And as to not being booked up .. The half a dozen I had quotes from were booked up between 3 and 6 months ... Licence to print money I tell ya, supply and demand . A friend in London got a quote of £8000 labour only for a bathroom refit in London .. Yes you guessed it 10 days !! .. £800 a day !! Jeez.

Edited By: plodging on Jan 19, 2017 20:48
#24
If you have used them before and are happy with them, then stick with them as bad plumbers can cause serious damage.

Depends on where you are in the country but 3k doesnt sound extortionate.
#25
I have done my bathroom twice and tiled it 3 times, fully around the bath and half tiled to the remainder I can tile my bathroom in 3 days and it takes me a day to remove old tiles and make good and I can remove old suite and fit a new one easy in a day. That's 5 days work for just me and I don't work too fast. If I was to fully tile I would need another day and another for the floor which is 7 so far. Install a shower, fit screens another day and tile wet room 2 days. A day to grout gives me 10 days total.

10 to 12 days would seem about right but for one person not two. By asking the question on here there must be some doubt in your mind over the timescale otherwise you would just accept the price. Adding a couple of extra days for any unforseen circumstances it's still well under why they quoted. The main issue here though is you trust them and know they will do a good job. That counts for a lot in today's cowboy get in and scarper world. Would you not wish to over pay for a good job well done compared to a bodge job for a third of the price. I know what I would prefer. Last year I had 4 windows installed by a firm I use at work. I thought a team of two would fit them in a day with me on hand to help. Oh no, it will take 2 days and it's £300.00 a day fitting. I know the firm and said ok. My brother in law who used to fit double glazing fitted 2 windows for me once in a morning on his own and both were first floor. The house I have now though is rendered at the front which was rendered after the existing windows were put in. They took the full 2 days to fit the 4 window working a little later on day 2 and even came back to finish the sealing on the last window after the mortar bed had dried. They have done an absolutely amazing job of installing my windows and if these guys work slower in order to do a good job then I don't mind paying.
#26
why not remove old bathroom yourself, will save a day or 2 labour
#27
Smartguy1
I have done my bathroom twice and tiled it 3 times, fully around the bath and half tiled to the remainder I can tile my bathroom in 3 days and it takes me a day to remove old tiles and make good and I can remove old suite and fit a new one easy in a day. That's 5 days work for just me and I don't work too fast. If I was to fully tile I would need another day and another for the floor which is 7 so far. Install a shower, fit screens another day and tile wet room 2 days. A day to grout gives me 10 days total.
10 to 12 days would seem about right but for one person not two. By asking the question on here there must be some doubt in your mind over the timescale otherwise you would just accept the price. Adding a couple of extra days for any unforseen circumstances it's still well under why they quoted. The main issue here though is you trust them and know they will do a good job. That counts for a lot in today's cowboy get in and scarper world. Would you not wish to over pay for a good job well done compared to a bodge job for a third of the price. I know what I would prefer. Last year I had 4 windows installed by a firm I use at work. I thought a team of two would fit them in a day with me on hand to help. Oh no, it will take 2 days and it's £300.00 a day fitting. I know the firm and said ok. My brother in law who used to fit double glazing fitted 2 windows for me once in a morning on his own and both were first floor. The house I have now though is rendered at the front which was rendered after the existing windows were put in. They took the full 2 days to fit the 4 window working a little later on day 2 and even came back to finish the sealing on the last window after the mortar bed had dried. They have done an absolutely amazing job of installing my windows and if these guys work slower in order to do a good job then I don't mind paying.
If you did bathroom refits day in day out be a lot quicker than that . Mine took 6.5 days , but the guy had to sort the kids out at school so started at 930 and finished at 3 and day 1 was 4 hours.
My mates took 5 days (1 guy) and another's took 4.5 days (1guy) both full refurbs.
The fact is people seem happy to pay £300 a day so the majority quote £3000 (10 days ) . Then knock it out in 7 (still £3000) so you are happy to have your bathroom "early" .
Why should they do it in 5 days , quote 5 days, at £300 = £1500 then have to do another to get the £3000. If you know a bathroom fitter as a good mate , the job would be done in 5 days max , cos he is on mates rates. So this 10 day ( I was quoted 4 times at 10 days ) is to get the £3000+ quote on the table , then it's done in 6 or 7 , still dragging it out . The real rate is suddenly £500 a day or more . But you will struggle to find one to undercut the rest , all the plumbers in the area know the rates charged by the rest .
Like I say watch the actual time spent on the job .. Be lucky if it's 50 hours , probably much less .
banned#28
deanos
why not remove old bathroom yourself, will save a day or 2 labour

No way.

About 2-4 hours more like.
#29
The bath and sink was out of mine in about 30 mins . Fibreglass bath cut in half , tiles were off in a couple of hours .then he tidied up , and disappeared to buy the materials ,day 1.

Edited By: plodging on Jan 19, 2017 22:54
banned#30
plodging
The bath and sink was out of mine in about 30 mins . Fibreglass bath cut in half , tiles were off in a couple of hours .

You are correct.

Ripping stuff out takes no time at all. The worst bit would be to remove an iron bath which can be done easily with a sledge hammer but its noisy & heavy.
#31
YouDontWantToKnow
plodging
The bath and sink was out of mine in about 30 mins . Fibreglass bath cut in half , tiles were off in a couple of hours .
You are correct.
Ripping stuff out takes no time at all. The worst bit would be to remove an iron bath which can be done easily with a sledge hammer but its noisy & heavy.
Yep .. If he had done a full day the first fix would have been done.
A pal of mine got his brother in law who lives 120 miles away to do the plumbing for his refit.. Bath out shower in , 2 basins , towel rail etc . He spent 2 days in total doing all the plumbing , fitting shower tray , screen the lot .. 2 Saturday's .. So where 10 days comes in baffles me.

Edited By: plodging on Jan 19, 2017 23:01
#32
We got a huge mirror that was stucked on the plaster board (I know don't ask) so this will have to be sorted. The waste for the wet room shower will have to be relocated and it's quite a long bathroom 6m x 2m so quite a bit of tiling. I don't unfortunately know anybody else that I could trust, from what I have read I realise that I could get a cheaper price but with the risk of getting a cowboy builder (it happened to us a few years ago with our kitchen, paid a guy left before the end and the bit he did was dire
#33
Mirror stuck on plasterboard,? Presumably you ain't keeping it ? And believe me you ain't paying your guys over the norm .. This is what they are charging. Just silly money.
If you are binning the mirror they will just cut it out and re board the wall.

Edited By: plodging on Jan 19, 2017 23:20: Spelling
#34
plodging
Smartguy1
I have done my bathroom twice and tiled it 3 times, fully around the bath and half tiled to the remainder I can tile my bathroom in 3 days and it takes me a day to remove old tiles and make good and I can remove old suite and fit a new one easy in a day. That's 5 days work for just me and I don't work too fast. If I was to fully tile I would need another day and another for the floor which is 7 so far. Install a shower, fit screens another day and tile wet room 2 days. A day to grout gives me 10 days total.
10 to 12 days would seem about right but for one person not two. By asking the question on here there must be some doubt in your mind over the timescale otherwise you would just accept the price. Adding a couple of extra days for any unforseen circumstances it's still well under why they quoted. The main issue here though is you trust them and know they will do a good job. That counts for a lot in today's cowboy get in and scarper world. Would you not wish to over pay for a good job well done compared to a bodge job for a third of the price. I know what I would prefer. Last year I had 4 windows installed by a firm I use at work. I thought a team of two would fit them in a day with me on hand to help. Oh no, it will take 2 days and it's £300.00 a day fitting. I know the firm and said ok. My brother in law who used to fit double glazing fitted 2 windows for me once in a morning on his own and both were first floor. The house I have now though is rendered at the front which was rendered after the existing windows were put in. They took the full 2 days to fit the 4 window working a little later on day 2 and even came back to finish the sealing on the last window after the mortar bed had dried. They have done an absolutely amazing job of installing my windows and if these guys work slower in order to do a good job then I don't mind paying.
If you did bathroom refits day in day out be a lot quicker than that . Mine took 6.5 days , but the guy had to sort the kids out at school so started at 930 and finished at 3 and day 1 was 4 hours.
My mates took 5 days (1 guy) and another's took 4.5 days (1guy) both full refurbs.
The fact is people seem happy to pay £300 a day so the majority quote £3000 (10 days ) . Then knock it out in 7 (still £3000) so you are happy to have your bathroom "early" .
Why should they do it in 5 days , quote 5 days, at £300 = £1500 then have to do another to get the £3000. If you know a bathroom fitter as a good mate , the job would be done in 5 days max , cos he is on mates rates. So this 10 day ( I was quoted 4 times at 10 days ) is to get the £3000+ quote on the table , then it's done in 6 or 7 , still dragging it out . The real rate is suddenly £500 a day or more . But you will struggle to find one to undercut the rest , all the plumbers in the area know the rates charged by the rest .
Like I say watch the actual time spent on the job .. Be lucky if it's 50 hours , probably much less .

Yes I agree it would take me less if I was doing day in day out. My jobs are done on a saturday or sunday unless I take time off from my regular job and I did over exaggerate a little. I work a little slow and like my coffee breaks too. I am a bit of a perfectionist so like to do a good job that I will appreciate and my wife will too. A couple of decent quality tradesmen should do this in less than 10 days easy but if they work slow like my windows fitters did then it will probably take them 10 days, i.e. hang it out and take it easy. I quote for site labour at work (not bathrooms) and I always over estimate. Next time I do my bathroom I will time myself lol.

On the subject of my windows though I was happy to pay what I did for the install as they did a cracking job. I have fitted a few windows on this house myself, same size as the guys fitted and was a little surprised that they didn't do them any quicker than I did. I think they were just being careful with the render reveals. I was also happy to pay the price as they are CERTASS registered so it ticks a box for window replacement when I come to sell.
#35
YouDontWantToKnow
deanos
why not remove old bathroom yourself, will save a day or 2 labour

No way.

About 2-4 hours more like.


Depends how rough you are I guess, plus tidying up got to save at least a days work
banned#36
deanos
YouDontWantToKnow
deanos
why not remove old bathroom yourself, will save a day or 2 labour
No way.
About 2-4 hours more like.
Depends how rough you are I guess, plus tidying up got to save at least a days work

Half a day max. Sorry
#37
Where do you live as this can have a big impact on price?
#38
Essex
#39
Where abouts in Essex?

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