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I have a budget of £600 but I wouldn't like it to be above 40 inches (maybe 43 at a stretch). Read More
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3m, 1w agoPosted 3 months, 1 week ago
I have a budget of £600 but I wouldn't like it to be above 40 inches (maybe 43 at a stretch).
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3m, 1w agoPosted 3 months, 1 week ago
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#1
At that size it'll be this one for HDR gaming and it'll be the smallest you can go for 4K HDR with true 10bit. Called the Sony Sony Bravia KD43XD8088 here in the UK https://www.richersounds.com/product/tv---all/sony/bravia-kd43xd8088/sony-kd43xd8088bu

http://uk.rtings.com/tv/reviews/sony/x800d

However wait for SALES as it's usually 400-500.


Personally though I'd go for one of those upcoming HDR monitors coming out this year as they'll be far better than a TV if you don't want something that's 40+ inch... http://www.tftcentral.co.uk/news_archive/36.htm#lg_32ud99


Edited By: slannmage on Jan 14, 2017 21:10
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slannmage
At that size it'll be this one for HDR gaming and it'll be the smallest you can go for 4K HDR with true 10bit. Called the Sony Sony Bravia KD43XD8088 here in the UK https://www.richersounds.com/product/tv---all/sony/bravia-kd43xd8088/sony-kd43xd8088bu

http://uk.rtings.com/tv/reviews/sony/x800d

However wait for SALES as it's usually 400-500.


Personally though I'd go for one of those upcoming HDR monitors coming out this year as they'll be far better than a TV if you don't want something that's 40+ inch... http://www.tftcentral.co.uk/news_archive/36.htm#lg_32ud99



Thanks for the reply... much appreciated.
#3
samsung ks7000
#4
rdecoratorUK
samsung ks7000

Starts at 49"

slannmage
At that size it'll be this one for HDR gaming and it'll be the smallest you can go for 4K HDR with true 10bit. Called the Sony Sony Bravia KD43XD8088 here in the UK

A) It's almost certainly 8-bit with dithering not 'true' 10-bit and
B) That's almost entirely meaningless anyway. The important things for HDR display ability right now is colour gamut, brightness range and local dimming.

The Sony has a decent colour gamut, but a limited brightness range and no local dimming. It's should be considered as having entry level HDR support.

At 40/43" there's only one real option if HDR is important, which is the Samsung UE43KS7500. That is currently only TV at that size to offer the full brightness range and at least rudimentary local dimming, all the rest start at 49" or 55". It is a little over budget though, it was £750 until three days ago.

Everything else like the XD80, DX700 and KU6400 only have the ability to display a wider colour range and maybe a slight increase in brightness. They're about the least HDR support you can have and still be meaningfully called HDR output capable. They're still very good TVs but don't expect the full HDR experience out of them.
#5
EndlessWaves
rdecoratorUK
samsung ks7000
Starts at 49"
slannmage
At that size it'll be this one for HDR gaming and it'll be the smallest you can go for 4K HDR with true 10bit. Called the Sony Sony Bravia KD43XD8088 here in the UK
A) It's almost certainly 8-bit with dithering not 'true' 10-bit and
B) That's almost entirely meaningless anyway. The important things for HDR display ability right now is colour gamut, brightness range and local dimming.
The Sony has a decent colour gamut, but a limited brightness range and no local dimming. It's should be considered as having entry level HDR support.
At 40/43" there's only one real option if HDR is important, which is the Samsung UE43KS7500. That is currently only TV at that size to offer the full brightness range and at least rudimentary local dimming, all the rest start at 49" or 55". It is a little over budget though, it was £750 until three days ago.
Everything else like the XD80, DX700 and KU6400 only have the ability to display a wider colour range and maybe a slight increase in brightness. They're about the least HDR support you can have and still be meaningfully called HDR output capable. They're still very good TVs but don't expect the full HDR experience out of them.

It's 10 bit but yes it's 49 inch and £800 so not even close to what this guy needs. Sony looks a good bet. But for 40 inch I'm not sure you'll see much more from 4k as you would with 1080p unless you sit real close up.
#6
jdpwest
EndlessWaves
rdecoratorUK
samsung ks7000
Starts at 49"
slannmage
At that size it'll be this one for HDR gaming and it'll be the smallest you can go for 4K HDR with true 10bit. Called the Sony Sony Bravia KD43XD8088 here in the UK
A) It's almost certainly 8-bit with dithering not 'true' 10-bit and
B) That's almost entirely meaningless anyway. The important things for HDR display ability right now is colour gamut, brightness range and local dimming.
The Sony has a decent colour gamut, but a limited brightness range and no local dimming. It's should be considered as having entry level HDR support.
At 40/43" there's only one real option if HDR is important, which is the Samsung UE43KS7500. That is currently only TV at that size to offer the full brightness range and at least rudimentary local dimming, all the rest start at 49" or 55". It is a little over budget though, it was £750 until three days ago.
Everything else like the XD80, DX700 and KU6400 only have the ability to display a wider colour range and maybe a slight increase in brightness. They're about the least HDR support you can have and still be meaningfully called HDR output capable. They're still very good TVs but don't expect the full HDR experience out of them.

It's 10 bit but yes it's 49 inch and £800 so not even close to what this guy needs. Sony looks a good bet. But for 40 inch I'm not sure you'll see much more from 4k as you would with 1080p unless you sit real close up.


i do sit very close when gaming :D
#7
always check input lag, Sony's are usually the lowest, makes all the difference to a gamer
#8
my Sony 1080p is awesome for gaming on ps4. if I could afford a Sony 55 inch 4k I would be all over it
#9
Get a monitor better
#10
Yes - monitor better than TV. LG good mid priced. Some designed for gaming. Best to have one with displayport.
#11
EndlessWaves
rdecoratorUK
samsung ks7000
Starts at 49"
slannmage
At that size it'll be this one for HDR gaming and it'll be the smallest you can go for 4K HDR with true 10bit. Called the Sony Sony Bravia KD43XD8088 here in the UK
A) It's almost certainly 8-bit with dithering not 'true' 10-bit and
B) That's almost entirely meaningless anyway. The important things for HDR display ability right now is colour gamut, brightness range and local dimming.
The Sony has a decent colour gamut, but a limited brightness range and no local dimming. It's should be considered as having entry level HDR support.
At 40/43" there's only one real option if HDR is important, which is the Samsung UE43KS7500. That is currently only TV at that size to offer the full brightness range and at least rudimentary local dimming, all the rest start at 49" or 55". It is a little over budget though, it was £750 until three days ago.
Everything else like the XD80, DX700 and KU6400 only have the ability to display a wider colour range and maybe a slight increase in brightness. They're about the least HDR support you can have and still be meaningfully called HDR output capable. They're still very good TVs but don't expect the full HDR experience out of them.

I hate that 8 bit argument, if you cannot tell and test equipment cannot tell, it's just as good. Every panel at that price will be 8 bit with frc, the ks7000 is, but no dithering seen and it displays what tests as 10bit. So even if it is... no difference.

As for brightness, all these panels will get to 1000nits of 2% of the panel and then be like 300-500 if you lite 100%... how it is, OLEDs top out at 300-500 as well.

Brightness doesn't = high colour gamut and have you seen 1000+ nits in real life? I had a KS7000 (I sent it back because 3 of them had dead pixels) and I had to turn brightness down to 4/20 all the time because the back light had so much bleed.. even then it was bright enough though.

They tested it, they say it's the best for that size and price range and many sites say the same thing.... if you want something better then wait or spend more
#12
slannmage
As for brightness, all these panels will get to 1000nits of 2% of the panel and then be like 300-500 if you lite 100%... how it is, OLEDs top out at 300-500 as well.

HDR is brightening the highlights to create an image with more depth, not the whole picture. If you have the average brightness at 1000cd/m² it'll just give you a headache.

I'm not saying a TV shouldn't be capable of outputting 1000cd/m² across the whole screen but smaller areas are more important.

slannmage
Brightness doesn't = high colour gamut

It's an entirely seperate subject from colour gamut, although some screens such as RGBW OLEDs do have a colour gamut that differs at different brightnesses.

slannmage
and I had to turn brightness down to 4/20 all the time because the back light had so much bleed.. even then it was bright enough though.

Backlight bleed is a quality control/manufacturing issue and varies between individual screens of the same model. It's not something that's suffered from by all screens of higher brightness.

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