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I currently have an s905 based Beelink MXMini iii but I'm looking for something more "premium" if you will. I've had numerous boxes from the Chinese market but certain issues like LAN cutting out a…
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1m, 4w agoPosted 1 month, 4 weeks ago
I currently have an s905 based Beelink MXMini iii but I'm looking for something more "premium" if you will.

I've had numerous boxes from the Chinese market but certain issues like LAN cutting out and poor Wireless just put me off buying any more and alas I'm considering something more established.

I'm currently considering the Amazon Fire TV Box, Xiaomi Mi Box, Apple TV 4th Gen and the Nvidia Shield.

Ideally something that can run Kodi and supports HEVC/H.265.

Ethernet is preferred.

The Amazon fire series would fit well with my Prime subscription but the lack of a native Netflix app (yes I know side loading Is an option).

Thanks in advanced.
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1m, 4w agoPosted 1 month, 4 weeks ago
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Nvidia shield TV is the best at the moment probably looking at £200 there are rumours of a new model in jan the current model 3gb of ram tegra chip super quick other wise your probably looking at a amazon fire TV box the 4K model is pretty good and you can sideload kodi onto it £79 2gb ram

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#1
Nvidia shield TV is the best at the moment probably looking at £200 there are rumours of a new model in jan the current model 3gb of ram tegra chip super quick other wise your probably looking at a amazon fire TV box the 4K model is pretty good and you can sideload kodi onto it £79 2gb ram
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lordi
Nvidia shield TV is the best at the moment probably looking at £200 there are rumours of a new model in jan the current model 3gb of ram tegra chip super quick other wise your probably looking at a amazon fire TV box the 4K model is pretty good and you can sideload kodi onto it £79 2gb ram



​The current Nvidia Shield I can hardly find in stock for a reasonable price. Looking at the specs the Fire TV would be a reasonable replacement, unless the Tegra outperforms the Fire TV.

Would it be worth going for the Fire TV do you think? I had a Fire TV Stick but the experience wasn't all that great.
#3
lordi
Nvidia shield TV is the best at the moment probably looking at £200 there are rumours of a new model in jan the current model 3gb of ram tegra chip super quick other wise your probably looking at a amazon fire TV box the 4K model is pretty good and you can sideload kodi onto it £79 2gb ram


A Nvidia shield is overkill for a Kodi set up unless your getting one anyway.

I would highly recommend either a Raspberrie PI or a Amazon fire TV box (latest model)

The 2gen fire stick came out November in USA and it's actually fast as hell. Gets hot tho.. it's quad core I would even consider that when it finally drops over here.
#4
For me the 4k model is pretty good it has the native Netflix that you require and the stick only has a gig of ram the extra gig speeds things up, there are loads of ways to sideload kodi I have both and its not worth the extra money for the tegra problem with nvidia is they have discontinued the shield TV 1 with rumours of shield TV 2 coming in the new year hence the price has shot up dramatically
#5
AStonedRaichu
lordi
Nvidia shield TV is the best at the moment probably looking at £200 there are rumours of a new model in jan the current model 3gb of ram tegra chip super quick other wise your probably looking at a amazon fire TV box the 4K model is pretty good and you can sideload kodi onto it £79 2gb ram


A Nvidia shield is overkill for a Kodi set up unless your getting one anyway.

I would highly recommend either a Raspberrie PI or a Amazon fire TV box (latest model)

The 2gen fire stick came out November in USA and it's actually fast as hell. Gets hot tho.. it's quad core I would even consider that when it finally drops over here.


The spec sheet lists the Fire Stick as Dual Core where as the Box is Quad Core.
#6
lordi
For me the 4k model is pretty good it has the native Netflix that you require and the stick only has a gig of ram the extra gig speeds things up, there are loads of ways to sideload kodi I have both and its not worth the extra money for the tegra problem with nvidia is they have discontinued the shield TV 1 with rumours of shield TV 2 coming in the new year hence the price has shot up dramatically


The Fire TV Box has native Netflix app? With or without side Loading?
#7
I'm using the Mi TV box 60 quid from aliexpress. I couldn't do with the Amazon branding and use USB Ethernet. Kodi Netflix plex all good for me.
#8
I have the Zidoo x9s its a great box. Has great reviews worth checking out.
#9
Don't know if it's better then any of the others mentioned but I bought this exact one from Amazon a few weeks ago and I'm very happy with it.

It's very fast, responsive and plays 4k absolutely fine and via the 5Ghz AC WiFi connection I consistently get 130-150 Mbps speed when doing a speed test
#10
M0nk3h
lordi
For me the 4k model is pretty good it has the native Netflix that you require and the stick only has a gig of ram the extra gig speeds things up, there are loads of ways to sideload kodi I have both and its not worth the extra money for the tegra problem with nvidia is they have discontinued the shield TV 1 with rumours of shield TV 2 coming in the new year hence the price has shot up dramatically
The Fire TV Box has native Netflix app? With or without side Loading?

The fire stick has a native Netflix app so I'm surprised the box doesn't
#11
What are you using the box for? If it's Kodi then just use Libreelec instead of android, runs about 10x better, faster, smoother video, proper surround sound support.
#12
Get a 2gb m8s box,bought loads for friends,quick and reliable

Edited By: tomdavidrichards on Dec 25, 2016 22:48
#13
dcx_badass
What are you using the box for? If it's Kodi then just use Libreelec instead of android, runs about 10x better, faster, smoother video, proper surround sound support.


​is rpi1 enough for libreelec?
#14
tomdavidrichards
Get a 2gb m8s box,bought loads for friends,quick and reliable

As previously stated, this isn't an option for me. I already have one and the wireless support is shocking. Ideally I'm wanting one with updates which the M8S won't be.

dcx_badass
What are you using the box for? If it's Kodi then just use Libreelec instead of android, runs about 10x better, faster, smoother video, proper surround sound support.

Is there a build available for the Beelink MiniMXIII? I'm mainly looking at something with updates too.
#15
I've had numerous boxes from the Chinese market but certain issues like LAN cutting out and poor Wireless just put me off buying any more and alas I'm considering something more established
Seems to me it's your router and not the android TV boxes that need replacing. I got the exact Beelink MiniMXIII and it's 100% reliable. You can fork out on the most expensive box there is on the market and your're still going to have the same problem.
#16
M0nk3h
Is there a build available for the Beelink MiniMXIII? I'm mainly looking at something with updates too.
There's general builds for the S905, although do need to download the correct device tree for your box when installing.

https://forum.libreelec.tv/thread-3103.html
#17
M0nk3h
tomdavidrichards
Get a 2gb m8s box,bought loads for friends,quick and reliable
As previously stated, this isn't an option for me. I already have one and the wireless support is shocking. Ideally I'm wanting one with updates which the M8S won't be.
dcx_badass
What are you using the box for? If it's Kodi then just use Libreelec instead of android, runs about 10x better, faster, smoother video, proper surround sound support.
Is there a build available for the Beelink MiniMXIII? I'm mainly looking at something with updates too.


Use Ethernet cable?
#18
tomdavidrichards
Get a 2gb m8s box,bought loads for friends,quick and reliable
I have one but can't play h265 hevc videos without obvious frame rate issues, great in every other respects.
#19
tomdavidrichards
M0nk3h
tomdavidrichards
Get a 2gb m8s box,bought loads for friends,quick and reliable
As previously stated, this isn't an option for me. I already have one and the wireless support is shocking. Ideally I'm wanting one with updates which the M8S won't be.
dcx_badass
What are you using the box for? If it's Kodi then just use Libreelec instead of android, runs about 10x better, faster, smoother video, proper surround sound support.
Is there a build available for the Beelink MiniMXIII? I'm mainly looking at something with updates too.
Use Ethernet cable?

I do already but it still doesn't escape the fact wireless is practically non-functional.

RiverDragon8
I've had numerous boxes from the Chinese market but certain issues like LAN cutting out and poor Wireless just put me off buying any more and alas I'm considering something more established
Seems to me it's your router and not the android TV boxes that need replacing. I got the exact Beelink MiniMXIII and it's 100% reliable. You can fork out on the most expensive box there is on the market and your're still going to have the same problem.

I have other devices using both Ethernet and wireless. All can be left on without an issue, it's definitely related to these boxes that I find the issue with. It seems once these are left on, internet connectivity drops and I have to restart the box - both Beelink and M8S yet I have an Enigma 2 sat receiver that is left on all the time and remains connected 24/7 with no drops.

I think though I am going to opt for the Fire TV box.
#20
chocci
tomdavidrichards
Get a 2gb m8s box,bought loads for friends,quick and reliable
I have one but can't play h265 hevc videos without obvious frame rate issues, great in every other respects.
Works fine on Libreelec though even at 110mbps which is 4k Blu-ray level bit rates, even my worse s805 1gb ram MK808B Plus can do that without breaking a sweat once you remove the android bloat, samples here:
http://jell.yfish.us/

Edited By: dcx_badass on Dec 26, 2016 16:13
#21
dcx_badass
chocci
tomdavidrichards
Get a 2gb m8s box,bought loads for friends,quick and reliable
I have one but can't play h265 hevc videos without obvious frame rate issues, great in every other respects.
Works fine on Libreelec though even at 110mbps which is 4k Blu-ray level bit rates, even my worse s805 1gb ram MK808B Plus can do that without breaking a sweat once you remove the android bloat, samples here:http://jell.yfish.us/
Fine if you just want your box to do nothing but play media oO

Most people want more from an android box than just that
#22
chocci
dcx_badass
chocci
tomdavidrichards
Get a 2gb m8s box,bought loads for friends,quick and reliable
I have one but can't play h265 hevc videos without obvious frame rate issues, great in every other respects.
Works fine on Libreelec though even at 110mbps which is 4k Blu-ray level bit rates, even my worse s805 1gb ram MK808B Plus can do that without breaking a sweat once you remove the android bloat, samples here:http://jell.yfish.us/
Fine if you just want your box to do nothing but play media oO
Most people want more from an android box than just that
It dual boots though, so just use libreelec then if you need an android app then just reboot and you're in android in about 30 seconds... If your main use is kodi and media playback then you're mental to not do it.
#23
dcx_badass
chocci
dcx_badass
chocci
tomdavidrichards
Get a 2gb m8s box,bought loads for friends,quick and reliable
I have one but can't play h265 hevc videos without obvious frame rate issues, great in every other respects.
Works fine on Libreelec though even at 110mbps which is 4k Blu-ray level bit rates, even my worse s805 1gb ram MK808B Plus can do that without breaking a sweat once you remove the android bloat, samples here:http://jell.yfish.us/
Fine if you just want your box to do nothing but play media oO
Most people want more from an android box than just that
It dual boots though, so just use libreelec then if you need an android app then just reboot and you're in android in about 30 seconds... If your main use is kodi and media playback then you're mental to not do it.
Looked on librelec forum yesterday and looks very complicated to install, not helped by very unintuitive install instructions

Plus I prefer Mx player over kodi which I think is very poor as media players go
#24
chocci
dcx_badass
chocci
dcx_badass
chocci
tomdavidrichards
Get a 2gb m8s box,bought loads for friends,quick and reliable
I have one but can't play h265 hevc videos without obvious frame rate issues, great in every other respects.
Works fine on Libreelec though even at 110mbps which is 4k Blu-ray level bit rates, even my worse s805 1gb ram MK808B Plus can do that without breaking a sweat once you remove the android bloat, samples here:http://jell.yfish.us/
Fine if you just want your box to do nothing but play media oO
Most people want more from an android box than just that
It dual boots though, so just use libreelec then if you need an android app then just reboot and you're in android in about 30 seconds... If your main use is kodi and media playback then you're mental to not do it.
Looked on librelec forum yesterday and looks very complicated to install, not helped by very unintuitive install instructions
Plus I prefer Mx player over kodi which I think is very poor as media players go

I'm not sure about the S812 but my S805 and S905X devices you just download a file, run the Libreelec app, point it at the file, point it at the sd card and click go, 2 mins later you take the card out your pc, put it in your device, press the recovery button and turn it on. Then it boots to Libreelec and ready to go, all that is only needed the first time and doesn't take 15 mins for the whole process. I've not found files that Kodi can't play, MXPlayer though needs extra codecs downloaded as a zip file from xda just to do aac audio... :|
#25
As an update, I opted for the Fire TV (Box). It seems the most premium and with support for Amlogic-based boxes being dropped in future development of Kodi, the Fire TV seems the most stable.

Thanks for the help nonetheless :)
#26
M0nk3h
As an update, I opted for the Fire TV (Box). It seems the most premium and with support for Amlogic-based boxes being dropped in future development of Kodi, the Fire TV seems the most stable.
Thanks for the help nonetheless :)
AMLogic support isn't been dropped, AMLogic [Android] specific support is, but it will still work fine, it just won't have specialised hacks. It will just push AMLogic to adopt the default Android standards like everyone else. That's also only for Android anyway and is irrelevant for LibreElec. The issue with the Amazon stuff is you're running on top of bloated android with all the restrictions that come with it (no real passthrough Audio or display rate switching) and Amazon could block any apps and sideloading at will if they want to.

Edited By: dcx_badass on Dec 29, 2016 23:14
#27
dcx_badass
M0nk3h
As an update, I opted for the Fire TV (Box). It seems the most premium and with support for Amlogic-based boxes being dropped in future development of Kodi, the Fire TV seems the most stable.
Thanks for the help nonetheless :)
AMLogic support isn't been dropped, AMLogic [Android] specific support is, but it will still work fine, it just won't have specialised hacks. It will just push AMLogic to adopt the default Android standards like everyone else. That's also only for Android anyway and is irrelevant for LibreElec. The issue with the Amazon stuff is you're running on top of bloated android with all the restrictions that come with it (no real passthrough Audio or display rate switching) and Amazon could block any apps and sideloading at will if they want to.
I too have the fire tv. Apent ages decluttering the carp on there and the recent update has made it sluggish. Streaming is seamless currently. Got it hardwired to pass through plugs rather than rely on wifi drop outs.

I too am awaiting the day amazon pull the plug.

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