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Hi, I am considering buying a business reconditioned laptop for my brother. Not for gaming. Would be grateful for advice on what laptops are the most reliable and robust. Ideally would like to spend ~… Read More
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7m, 2w agoPosted 7 months, 2 weeks ago
Hi, I am considering buying a business reconditioned laptop for my brother. Not for gaming. Would be grateful for advice on what laptops are the most reliable and robust. Ideally would like to spend ~£200 (happy less!). Thank you
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7m, 2w agoPosted 7 months, 2 weeks ago
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Davidben83
Scotty Boy
OP do you know if your brother requires a light weight (i.e. 12") or a larger model (14"+) to accommodate his needs?
Hi, 14" would be the ideal size, thanks. So larger.

In that case I would suggest considering the Lenovo T Series ThinkPads - as suggested by HUKD member wide you could go for the older model T400 Series but I would recommend you consider the T420 Series upwards, as they would come with Sandy Bridge (2nd Gen) i3/i5/i7 CPUs, are relatively cheap to upgrade, can support up to 16GB of RAM, can support Sandy Bridge Quad Core CPUs (if there is a future need for one), has the Seven Row Keyboard (last non chiclet version by Lenovo), has support for 3rd party batteries (can be hit or miss, so bear in mind before purchasing one) and is still a relatively powerful system to use to this day.

There's also the T430 Series as well, which comes with the Ivy Bridge (3rd Gen) CPUs but also comes with the newer Six Row Chiclet Keyboard and doesn't support older T410/T420 Series batteries, as it runs with a battery authentication chip (newer batteries are more expensive to buy) - it has apparently been hacked, with a 3rd party workaround, but I've not done it myself so I don't know how good it will be.

Listed below are a few examples of Lenovo T420 and also T430 ThinkPads, that are listed on eBay UK - if you decide to go ahead with purchasing one of them I would check out a few things with the seller with regards to obtaining the full model type number of the unit (so you can confirm the full technical spec of it), are there any power-on & supervisor passwords present (you need to make sure they don't come with it, as they can prevent you from making changes within the BIOS) but also will it come with a mains power adapter (ideally you need at least the 90w model).

PS - Make sure it does come with at least 4GB of RAM and a HD+ LCD (1600x900 Pixel Screen Resolution) - bear in mind if you have money left over you'll be able to upgrade the RAM but also install a replacement SSD as well; the T420 & T430 Series can support up to three internal disk drives (MSATA SSD - 2.5" HDD/SSHD/SSD - 2.5" HDD/SSHD/SSD via 2nd HDD Caddy), so you could reuse any bundled HDDs as well.

Lenovo T420 | eBay

Lenovo T420 | eBay

Lenovo T420 | eBay

IBM LENOVO THINKPAD T420i 14.1" LAPTOP CORE i3 2.1GHz 4GB RAM 160Gb WIN 7 PRO | eBay

LENOVO THINKPAD T420 14.1" LAPTOP i5 2nd Gen 2.5GHz NEW RAM + HDD Win7 Pro | eBay

Lenovo ThinkPad T430 Intel Core i5 vPro 2.6GHz 2GB Ram 320GB HDD 14.1" Laptop | eBay

Lenovo Thinkpad T430 i5 3rd Gen 2.6Ghz 4Gb 320GB Windows 10 Laptop Sim | eBay

Lenovo Thinkpad T430 VPro i5 128GB SSD 8GB Ram Windows 7 Pro 64 Bit | eBay

EDIT: You could also look at older laptops as well (again as mentioned by HUKD member wide), as that would leave you plenty money left over for upgrading the laptop with RAM, replacement SSD, replacement keyboard, etc but bear in mind that you may not get all of the bells & whistles with regards to support going forward by manufacturers with regards to device driver updates, etc.

Edited By: Scotty Boy on Oct 03, 2016 11:39: Expanded Upon the Post

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#1
Thinkpad t430 or t440. I go with Thinkpads every time for businessness and robustnessness.

Buy on ebay from a person, not a business (business used-laptop sellers sometimes have loads of worn out machines to shift)
#2
I'd spend more than this one on ebay but it's the kind of thing I'd be considering. Seller seems genuine, prolly puts more work in than necessary...

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Thinkpad-T400-Laptop-2-26-GHz-Core-2-Duo-2GB-RAM-320GB-HDD-DVD-Excellent-/152258674488?hash=item237352ff38:g:U00AAOSw3YNXbE2t

As long as it has SATA drive (not IDE) u can throw an SSD into it and off you go.
#3
Hi, thank you for putting the time in to help me, much appreciated
#4
Davidben83
Hi, thank you for putting the time in to help me, much appreciated
No prob :)
#5
I like my T440 but the mousepad is awful, I use an external mouse so it's not an issue but it's something to be aware of.
#6
OP do you know if your brother requires a light weight (i.e. 12") or a larger model (14"+) to accommodate his needs?
#7
Scotty Boy
OP do you know if your brother requires a light weight (i.e. 12") or a larger model (14"+) to accommodate his needs?

Hi, 14" would be the ideal size, thanks. So larger.
#8
Davidben83
Scotty Boy
OP do you know if your brother requires a light weight (i.e. 12") or a larger model (14"+) to accommodate his needs?
Hi, 14" would be the ideal size, thanks. So larger.

In that case I would suggest considering the Lenovo T Series ThinkPads - as suggested by HUKD member wide you could go for the older model T400 Series but I would recommend you consider the T420 Series upwards, as they would come with Sandy Bridge (2nd Gen) i3/i5/i7 CPUs, are relatively cheap to upgrade, can support up to 16GB of RAM, can support Sandy Bridge Quad Core CPUs (if there is a future need for one), has the Seven Row Keyboard (last non chiclet version by Lenovo), has support for 3rd party batteries (can be hit or miss, so bear in mind before purchasing one) and is still a relatively powerful system to use to this day.

There's also the T430 Series as well, which comes with the Ivy Bridge (3rd Gen) CPUs but also comes with the newer Six Row Chiclet Keyboard and doesn't support older T410/T420 Series batteries, as it runs with a battery authentication chip (newer batteries are more expensive to buy) - it has apparently been hacked, with a 3rd party workaround, but I've not done it myself so I don't know how good it will be.

Listed below are a few examples of Lenovo T420 and also T430 ThinkPads, that are listed on eBay UK - if you decide to go ahead with purchasing one of them I would check out a few things with the seller with regards to obtaining the full model type number of the unit (so you can confirm the full technical spec of it), are there any power-on & supervisor passwords present (you need to make sure they don't come with it, as they can prevent you from making changes within the BIOS) but also will it come with a mains power adapter (ideally you need at least the 90w model).

PS - Make sure it does come with at least 4GB of RAM and a HD+ LCD (1600x900 Pixel Screen Resolution) - bear in mind if you have money left over you'll be able to upgrade the RAM but also install a replacement SSD as well; the T420 & T430 Series can support up to three internal disk drives (MSATA SSD - 2.5" HDD/SSHD/SSD - 2.5" HDD/SSHD/SSD via 2nd HDD Caddy), so you could reuse any bundled HDDs as well.

Lenovo T420 | eBay

Lenovo T420 | eBay

Lenovo T420 | eBay

IBM LENOVO THINKPAD T420i 14.1" LAPTOP CORE i3 2.1GHz 4GB RAM 160Gb WIN 7 PRO | eBay

LENOVO THINKPAD T420 14.1" LAPTOP i5 2nd Gen 2.5GHz NEW RAM + HDD Win7 Pro | eBay

Lenovo ThinkPad T430 Intel Core i5 vPro 2.6GHz 2GB Ram 320GB HDD 14.1" Laptop | eBay

Lenovo Thinkpad T430 i5 3rd Gen 2.6Ghz 4Gb 320GB Windows 10 Laptop Sim | eBay

Lenovo Thinkpad T430 VPro i5 128GB SSD 8GB Ram Windows 7 Pro 64 Bit | eBay

EDIT: You could also look at older laptops as well (again as mentioned by HUKD member wide), as that would leave you plenty money left over for upgrading the laptop with RAM, replacement SSD, replacement keyboard, etc but bear in mind that you may not get all of the bells & whistles with regards to support going forward by manufacturers with regards to device driver updates, etc.

Edited By: Scotty Boy on Oct 03, 2016 11:39: Expanded Upon the Post
#9
Scotty Boy
Davidben83
Scotty Boy
OP do you know if your brother requires a light weight (i.e. 12") or a larger model (14"+) to accommodate his needs?
Hi, 14" would be the ideal size, thanks. So larger.
In that case I would suggest considering the Lenovo T Series ThinkPads - as suggested by HUKD member wide you could go for the older model T400 Series but I would recommend you consider the T420 Series upwards, as they would come with Sandy Bridge (2nd Gen) i3/i5/i7 CPUs, are relatively cheap to upgrade, can support up to 16GB of RAM, can support Sandy Bridge Quad Core CPUs (if there is a future need for one), has the Seven Row Keyboard (last non chiclet version by Lenovo), has support for 3rd party batteries (can be hit or miss, so bear in mind before purchasing one) and is still a relatively powerful system to use to this day.
There's also the T430 Series as well, which comes with the Ivy Bridge (3rd Gen) CPUs but also comes with the newer Six Row Chiclet Keyboard and doesn't support older T410/T420 Series batteries, as it runs with a battery authentication chip (newer batteries are more expensive to buy) - it has apparently been hacked, with a 3rd party workaround, but I've not done it myself so I don't know how good it will be.
Listed below are a few examples of Lenovo T420 and also T430 ThinkPads, that are listed on eBay UK - if you decide to go ahead with purchasing one of them I would check out a few things with the seller with regards to obtaining the full model type number of the unit (so you can confirm the full technical spec of it), are there any power-on & supervisor passwords present (you need to make sure they don't come with it, as they can prevent you from making changes within the BIOS) but also will it come with a mains power adapter (ideally you need at least the 90w model).
PS - Make sure it does come with at least 4GB of RAM and a HD+ LCD (1600x900 Pixel Screen Resolution) - bear in mind if you have money left over you'll be able to upgrade the RAM but also install a replacement SSD as well; the T420 & T430 Series can support up to three internal disk drives (MSATA SSD - 2.5" HDD/SSHD/SSD - 2.5" HDD/SSHD/SSD via 2nd HDD Caddy), so you could reuse any bundled HDDs as well.Lenovo T420 | eBayLenovo T420 | eBayLenovo T420 | eBayIBM LENOVO THINKPAD T420i 14.1" LAPTOP CORE i3 2.1GHz 4GB RAM 160Gb WIN 7 PRO | eBayLENOVO THINKPAD T420 14.1" LAPTOP i5 2nd Gen 2.5GHz NEW RAM + HDD Win7 Pro | eBayLenovo ThinkPad T430 Intel Core i5 vPro 2.6GHz 2GB Ram 320GB HDD 14.1" Laptop | eBayLenovo Thinkpad T430 i5 3rd Gen 2.6Ghz 4Gb 320GB Windows 10 Laptop Sim | eBayLenovo Thinkpad T430 VPro i5 128GB SSD 8GB Ram Windows 7 Pro 64 Bit | eBay
EDIT: You could also look at older laptops as well (again as mentioned by HUKD member wide), as that would leave you plenty money left over for upgrading the laptop with RAM, replacement SSD, replacement keyboard, etc but bear in mind that you may not get all of the bells & whistles with regards to support going forward by manufacturers with regards to device driver updates, etc.
Thank you. Much appreciated. Really helpful
#10
Scotty Boy
Davidben83
Scotty Boy
OP do you know if your brother requires a light weight (i.e. 12") or a larger model (14"+) to accommodate his needs?
Hi, 14" would be the ideal size, thanks. So larger.
In that case I would suggest considering the Lenovo T Series ThinkPads - as suggested by HUKD member wide you could go for the older model T400 Series but I would recommend you consider the T420 Series upwards, as they would come with Sandy Bridge (2nd Gen) i3/i5/i7 CPUs, are relatively cheap to upgrade, can support up to 16GB of RAM, can support Sandy Bridge Quad Core CPUs (if there is a future need for one), has the Seven Row Keyboard (last non chiclet version by Lenovo), has support for 3rd party batteries (can be hit or miss, so bear in mind before purchasing one) and is still a relatively powerful system to use to this day.
There's also the T430 Series as well, which comes with the Ivy Bridge (3rd Gen) CPUs but also comes with the newer Six Row Chiclet Keyboard and doesn't support older T410/T420 Series batteries, as it runs with a battery authentication chip (newer batteries are more expensive to buy) - it has apparently been hacked, with a 3rd party workaround, but I've not done it myself so I don't know how good it will be.
Listed below are a few examples of Lenovo T420 and also T430 ThinkPads, that are listed on eBay UK - if you decide to go ahead with purchasing one of them I would check out a few things with the seller with regards to obtaining the full model type number of the unit (so you can confirm the full technical spec of it), are there any power-on & supervisor passwords present (you need to make sure they don't come with it, as they can prevent you from making changes within the BIOS) but also will it come with a mains power adapter (ideally you need at least the 90w model).
PS - Make sure it does come with at least 4GB of RAM and a HD+ LCD (1600x900 Pixel Screen Resolution) - bear in mind if you have money left over you'll be able to upgrade the RAM but also install a replacement SSD as well; the T420 & T430 Series can support up to three internal disk drives (MSATA SSD - 2.5" HDD/SSHD/SSD - 2.5" HDD/SSHD/SSD via 2nd HDD Caddy), so you could reuse any bundled HDDs as well.Lenovo T420 | eBayLenovo T420 | eBayLenovo T420 | eBayIBM LENOVO THINKPAD T420i 14.1" LAPTOP CORE i3 2.1GHz 4GB RAM 160Gb WIN 7 PRO | eBayLENOVO THINKPAD T420 14.1" LAPTOP i5 2nd Gen 2.5GHz NEW RAM + HDD Win7 Pro | eBayLenovo ThinkPad T430 Intel Core i5 vPro 2.6GHz 2GB Ram 320GB HDD 14.1" Laptop | eBayLenovo Thinkpad T430 i5 3rd Gen 2.6Ghz 4Gb 320GB Windows 10 Laptop Sim | eBayLenovo Thinkpad T430 VPro i5 128GB SSD 8GB Ram Windows 7 Pro 64 Bit | eBay
EDIT: You could also look at older laptops as well (again as mentioned by HUKD member wide), as that would leave you plenty money left over for upgrading the laptop with RAM, replacement SSD, replacement keyboard, etc but bear in mind that you may not get all of the bells & whistles with regards to support going forward by manufacturers with regards to device driver updates, etc.

what a really helpful post., detailed with links. I mean that takes some effort to put together.
#11
Didn't the T430 come with the HD4000 gpu as well, so a significant increase in gpu power over the T420 HD3000 - as well as a newer generation gpu.
#12
Davidben83
Thank you. Much appreciated. Really helpful

No probs, glad to be of some help to you.

EN1GMA
what a really helpful post., detailed with links. I mean that takes some effort to put together.

I try to help out where and when I can! ;)

cootuk2
Didn't the T430 come with the HD4000 gpu as well, so a significant increase in gpu power over the T420 HD3000 - as well as a newer generation gpu.

It does indeed but if I remember correctly the graphics difference between the HD3000 and HD4000 wasn't that big (could be wrong!) & also the Ivy Bridge CPU (3rd Gen) is officially supported by Windows 10 OS whilst the Sandy Bridge isn't - saying that though it will run as long as you use the older Windows 7/8/8.1 device drivers to get the support needed within the Windows 10 OS.
#13
Scotty Boy
Davidben83
Scotty Boy
OP do you know if your brother requires a light weight (i.e. 12") or a larger model (14"+) to accommodate his needs?
Hi, 14" would be the ideal size, thanks. So larger.
In that case I would suggest considering the Lenovo T Series ThinkPads - as suggested by HUKD member wide you could go for the older model T400 Series but I would recommend you consider the T420 Series upwards, as they would come with Sandy Bridge (2nd Gen) i3/i5/i7 CPUs, are relatively cheap to upgrade, can support up to 16GB of RAM, can support Sandy Bridge Quad Core CPUs (if there is a future need for one), has the Seven Row Keyboard (last non chiclet version by Lenovo), has support for 3rd party batteries (can be hit or miss, so bear in mind before purchasing one) and is still a relatively powerful system to use to this day.
There's also the T430 Series as well, which comes with the Ivy Bridge (3rd Gen) CPUs but also comes with the newer Six Row Chiclet Keyboard and doesn't support older T410/T420 Series batteries, as it runs with a battery authentication chip (newer batteries are more expensive to buy) - it has apparently been hacked, with a 3rd party workaround, but I've not done it myself so I don't know how good it will be.
Listed below are a few examples of Lenovo T420 and also T430 ThinkPads, that are listed on eBay UK - if you decide to go ahead with purchasing one of them I would check out a few things with the seller with regards to obtaining the full model type number of the unit (so you can confirm the full technical spec of it), are there any power-on & supervisor passwords present (you need to make sure they don't come with it, as they can prevent you from making changes within the BIOS) but also will it come with a mains power adapter (ideally you need at least the 90w model).
PS - Make sure it does come with at least 4GB of RAM and a HD+ LCD (1600x900 Pixel Screen Resolution) - bear in mind if you have money left over you'll be able to upgrade the RAM but also install a replacement SSD as well; the T420 & T430 Series can support up to three internal disk drives (MSATA SSD - 2.5" HDD/SSHD/SSD - 2.5" HDD/SSHD/SSD via 2nd HDD Caddy), so you could reuse any bundled HDDs as well.Lenovo T420 | eBayLenovo T420 | eBayLenovo T420 | eBayIBM LENOVO THINKPAD T420i 14.1" LAPTOP CORE i3 2.1GHz 4GB RAM 160Gb WIN 7 PRO | eBayLENOVO THINKPAD T420 14.1" LAPTOP i5 2nd Gen 2.5GHz NEW RAM + HDD Win7 Pro | eBayLenovo ThinkPad T430 Intel Core i5 vPro 2.6GHz 2GB Ram 320GB HDD 14.1" Laptop | eBayLenovo Thinkpad T430 i5 3rd Gen 2.6Ghz 4Gb 320GB Windows 10 Laptop Sim | eBayLenovo Thinkpad T430 VPro i5 128GB SSD 8GB Ram Windows 7 Pro 64 Bit | eBay
EDIT: You could also look at older laptops as well (again as mentioned by HUKD member wide), as that would leave you plenty money left over for upgrading the laptop with RAM, replacement SSD, replacement keyboard, etc but bear in mind that you may not get all of the bells & whistles with regards to support going forward by manufacturers with regards to device driver updates, etc.


Thx for the props :)

Reading about the Lenovo genuine-only battery thing made me think t420 would be latest Thinkpad for me...

OTOH, t430 is recent enough the batt has plenty of life in it (my one does anyway)

And the OEM SSD in my one turned out to be a Sammy 840 pro!

BUT ABOVE ALL: Wit this much enthusiasm re Thinkpads why would anyone buy anything else?

BUT ABOVE ALL: Buy a used business-oriented machine, not a consumer thing full of ugly gery fish.
#14
dcx_badass
I like my T440 but the mousepad is awful, I use an external mouse so it's not an issue but it's something to be aware of.

Why you no Red Nipple?
#15
wide
Thx for the props :)
Reading about the Lenovo genuine-only battery thing made me think t420 would be latest Thinkpad for me...
OTOH, t430 is recent enough the batt has plenty of life in it (my one does anyway)
And the OEM SSD in my one turned out to be a Sammy 840 pro!
BUT ABOVE ALL: Wit this much enthusiasm re Thinkpads why would anyone buy anything else?
BUT ABOVE ALL: Buy a used business-oriented machine, not a consumer thing full of ugly gery fish.

No probs mate.

The catch for me is the third party batteries are pretty hit and miss if you want to cut down on the cost of replacing them without paying for the over the top cost of a NOS OEM battery from Lenovo - I'm still reading up on the third party hack for the *30 ThinkPad series, as I wouldn't mind giving it a shot (I have a number of type 55+ batteries I could use with two L*30 ThinkPads, so it would be ideal if I can get it working.

Agree, it has to be a business grade laptop so you get something that will last a while but also have parts available to be purchased online if upgrades and/or repairs are needed further down the line - the Lenovo ThinkPad range (L, T, W and X Series) are ideal IMHO...of course saying that I am a bit biased as I have a heap of ThinkPads running with the family as it makes it a lot easier for me to maintain & repair them! ;-)
#16
I purchased a T400 battery on ebay for £10 it was made in China i was worried but it has been perfect
#17
Scotty Boy
it has to be a business grade laptop

And no bloatware! (well... nearly no bloatware... Windows 10 has a lot of its own! I'm trying Enterprise Edition ATM... Very clean start menu... Promising...)
#18
allowed
I purchased a T400 battery on ebay for £10 it was made in China i was worried but it has been perfect

Mmmm... Lithium...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Cd2WIxKRDk

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