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Tried to create encrypted volume on external drive to move all family videos and images but during process of actually creating one it crashed causing the whole drive to become pretty much "useless". … Read More
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4m, 1w agoPosted 4 months, 1 week ago
Tried to create encrypted volume on external drive to move all family videos and images but during process of actually creating one it crashed causing the whole drive to become pretty much "useless". Since then it takes forever to mount the drive and then more time for files to show up for every single folder and subfolder. i tried copying to new drive but its soo slow that if i was to transfer everything it could end up taking weeks if not month(s).

I don't have access to windows and from what i read using paragon ntfs / disk utility on mac may delete or further damage the drive. So what are my options and best solution to overcome this issue. I did try to use chkdsk when i had limited access to it few days ago but after spending 6hours running it. it only did approx 10% at tops (didnt show percentage).

I really need help with this so all advice is really appreciated.

EDIT: i did delete the encrypted volume since it didnt complete so didnt want to risk things
EDIT2: i've trying to load files for hours and it seems like speed is picking up....is there a way to keep the drive running so doesnt go sleep?
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4m, 1w agoPosted 4 months, 1 week ago
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#1
I would try something like xcopy. Seems strange that your issues started after creating the new volumeI wonder if the drive itself is failing and one of the key files on the volume (Master Boot record etc) has become corrupted. I would also recommend posting this in a more IT tech advice focused forum; you might get much better advice.
#2
afroylnt
I would try something like xcopy. Seems strange that your issues started after creating the new volumeI wonder if the drive itself is failing and one of the key files on the volume (Master Boot record etc) has become corrupted. I would also recommend posting this in a more IT tech advice focused forum; you might get much better advice.

the volume was big (300GB) of which only 64% completed and after deleting it something was/is taking 40GB of space. any friendly forum you would recommend? tried stackoverflow/exchange few times in the past for different issues with not a single reply

Edited By: xPabloz on Mar 12, 2017 17:41
#3
LPT: Never mess with a drive that you haven't backed up. And you should always have a backup.

Regarding your issues copying the data from it, if it's an ntfs drive, find a way to get access to Windows, and work on retrieving data after you've sorted that out. You don't mention how you currently access the drive, but it it's not via software that handles NTFS natively, that will only cause you problems.
#4
dxx
LPT: Never mess with a drive that you haven't backed up. And you should always have a backup.
Regarding your issues copying the data from it, if it's an ntfs drive, find a way to get access to Windows, and work on retrieving data after you've sorted that out. You don't mention how you currently access the drive, but it it's not via software that handles NTFS natively, that will only cause you problems.

I was stupid not to have backup, used pen drives and then backed those to this drive whenever i got time. currently running paragon ntfs on mac to access files.
#5
In the past I've used an Ubuntu Live CD so the act of booting is not hammering the disk that's dying. If I recall, there are also "disk rescue remixes" which include preinstalled disk utils to attempting to read bad sectors (e.g. by retrying a specified number of times). Have an external disk that's bigger than your failing partition to hand (e.g. 500Gb - 1Tb).

Ideally, you want to make a disk image ignoring any completely unreadable sectors as soon as possible.
#6
With a hammer
#7
atj6384
With a hammer
ahah lol
#8
don't encrypt on copying it will slow it down. don't copy all in one go. transfer maybe 100 files at a time then if a transfer fails make a note and move to next hundred. repeat process to end then return and select maybe 50 files of the hundred that failed to copy. repeat process.

it will take ages. if the files are important you should have archived them. have fun.
#9
jonnithomas
don't encrypt on copying it will slow it down. don't copy all in one go. transfer maybe 100 files at a time then if a transfer fails make a note and move to next hundred. repeat process to end then return and select maybe 50 files of the hundred that failed to copy. repeat process.
it will take ages. if the files are important you should have archived them. have fun.

doing folder at a time...managed to copy about 35GB over the last 6hours

what does it mean to "archive" them?

Edited By: xPabloz on Mar 12, 2017 19:27
#10
an archive is a backup, a copy for security. that way if a drive fails then you haven't lost the data as you have a copy.
#11
jonnithomas
an archive is a backup, a copy for security. that way if a drive fails then you haven't lost the data as you have a copy.

I've learnt my lesson so got some more hard drives and signed up for cloud storage
#12
xPabloz
jonnithomas
an archive is a backup, a copy for security. that way if a drive fails then you haven't lost the data as you have a copy.
I've learnt my lesson so got some more hard drives and signed up for cloud storage

anything you put on cloud should be encrypted. anything which is portable should be too in case it is stolen or lost.
#13
jonnithomas
xPabloz
jonnithomas
an archive is a backup, a copy for security. that way if a drive fails then you haven't lost the data as you have a copy.
I've learnt my lesson so got some more hard drives and signed up for cloud storage
anything you put on cloud should be encrypted. anything which is portable should be too in case it is stolen or lost.

is there way to decrypt it online (the cloud itself) as i generally organise things by folder which might have a file i need use. by encrypting a folder it would mean i have to download the whole folder to get access to a single file inside
#14
xPabloz
jonnithomas
xPabloz
jonnithomas
an archive is a backup, a copy for security. that way if a drive fails then you haven't lost the data as you have a copy.
I've learnt my lesson so got some more hard drives and signed up for cloud storage
anything you put on cloud should be encrypted. anything which is portable should be too in case it is stolen or lost.
is there way to decrypt it online (the cloud itself) as i generally organise things by folder which might have a file i need use. by encrypting a folder it would mean i have to download the whole folder to get access to a single file inside

the way I would do it is to have the cloud for security only so you would only access it if you needed to recover after a drive failure. so you would access unencrypted individual files at home which should be secure anyway.

the cloud is only accessed as offline encrypted filestore. You don't want it unencrypted as it is remote.

so I have cloud encrypted. at home I have a western digital Passport drive which is portable so encrypted too but obviously unencrypted when opened. then I have unencrypted on my machine at home when it is booted
#15
is there way to decrypt it online (the cloud itself)

no.

really not a good idea either.
#16
jonnithomas
xPabloz
jonnithomas
xPabloz
jonnithomas
an archive is a backup, a copy for security. that way if a drive fails then you haven't lost the data as you have a copy.
I've learnt my lesson so got some more hard drives and signed up for cloud storage
anything you put on cloud should be encrypted. anything which is portable should be too in case it is stolen or lost.
is there way to decrypt it online (the cloud itself) as i generally organise things by folder which might have a file i need use. by encrypting a folder it would mean i have to download the whole folder to get access to a single file inside
the way I would do it is to have the cloud for security only so you would only access it if you needed to recover after a drive failure. so you would access unencrypted individual files at home which should be secure anyway.
the cloud is only accessed as offline encrypted filestore. You don't want it unencrypted as it is remote.
so I have cloud encrypted. at home I have a western digital Passport drive which is portable so encrypted too but obviously unencrypted when opened. then I have unencrypted on my machine at home when it is booted

since you have all your files inside a encrypted container, if the container becomes corrupt am assuming you would still be able to access it but some files may be damaged? or does it lock you out

btw really appreciate your help

Edited By: xPabloz on Mar 12, 2017 20:14
#17
usually the whole container is lost and needs to be recovered.

Personally I use Acronis True Image which means I can recover individual files. the process is secure telling it to encrypt data on to output file. send to cloud/portable drive encrypted output file.

if file on machine is lost get back copy off cloud/ portable drive and recover file. if the whole container is lost recover whole container off cloud/ portable drive.
#18
jonnithomas
usually the whole container is lost and needs to be recovered.
Personally I use Acronis True Image which means I can recover individual files. the process is secure telling it to encrypt data on to output file. send to cloud/portable drive encrypted output file.
if file on machine is lost get back copy off cloud/ portable drive and recover file. if the whole container is lost recover whole container off cloud/ portable drive.

will defo look into. have you used veracrypt for encryption?

Edited By: xPabloz on Mar 12, 2017 20:24
#19
xPabloz
jonnithomas
usually the whole container is lost and needs to be recovered.
Personally I use Acronis True Image which means I can recover individual files. the process is secure telling it to encrypt data on to output file. send to cloud/portable drive encrypted output file.
if file on machine is lost get back copy off cloud/ portable drive and recover file. if the whole container is lost recover whole container off cloud/ portable drive.
will defo look into. have you used veracrypt for encryption?


no. I don't know it.
#20
jonnithomas
send to cloud/portable drive encrypted output file.
currently started using mega/google for backups but they seem to create copies of the folder am uploading to main drive even tho the folders are on a external drive (posted this on another thread but no answer yet). any ideas why or solution?

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