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Hi all. I'm looking for a deal on a wireless hub to replace the utter disaster that is the crippled BT Smart Hub and its horrible bug-ridden firmware. Ideally it should have modem and router functi… Read More
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4m, 2w agoPosted 4 months, 2 weeks ago
Hi all. I'm looking for a deal on a wireless hub to replace the utter disaster that is the crippled BT Smart Hub and its horrible bug-ridden firmware.

Ideally it should have modem and router functionality. I'm not interested in using BT's device in any capacity, whether in modem only mode or not.

I have a fibre connection built into my wall (it doesn't come through the phoneline) so this may negate the point above (not sure, please advise).

Budget is £100. I live in a top floor apartment so don't require a huge range. I would be using my PC and server cabled into the router so would like the fastest connections, plus a USB port.

Any suggestions welcome, TIA.
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4m, 2w agoPosted 4 months, 2 weeks ago
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#2
I was just about to put a BNIB smart hub 6 on the facebook selling page. £50.
Any good to you?
#3
It's probably the Smart Hub 6 he's talking about - it's a piece of junk.

That correct OP? I've got the same thing and I can't even open a port properly in it. Driving me crazy!
#4
I had the same issues, ended up getting a Fritzbox 7490, excellent piece of kit (maybe overkill for what you want tho). UI is great, lots of control and easy to understand. Your text here
#5
Exactly right chap I replaced my HH5 which was also God awful with a Fritzbox 7490.

Replaced the VDSL modem
Router
Dect phone base

Replaced all 3 boxes with the one router. It has advanced call handling features like multiple mailboxes, use different handsets as virtual extensions, assign different phone numbers to different handsets so landline or voip (perfect for the kids), uses CLI so you can block certain numbers from being able to call in or out (again useful for kids)

Brilliant remote access facilities.

Fon app so you can answer your landline from any mobile device so no getting up to get the phone.

It's got a built in NAS via the USB3 ports (and supports USB printers)

There's facilities for remote control of electrical devices which also logs how much power is being used.

Yes it's expensive at £200 but it really is an amazing device there's even more stuff I haven't touched on like parental controls which can be applied per device rather than to everyone on the router, time limits & more.

Best piece of kit I've ever bought we never get disturbed by nuisance calls anymore.

Has great wireless B/G/N/AC 2.4 & 5ghz

I get about 900Mbps on AC on my phone around the house oO

Got a great deal from BT tho £200 cashback, half price line rental for 12 months, 12 months 55mbps fibre for £10 a month, free hub 6,free Youview Box & £100 prepaid debit card.

I sold the hub & Youview boxes for £87 for both Inc postage so quids in

Edited By: Rich44 on Dec 14, 2016 14:04: useless spelling
#6
Best under a £100 is the TPLink Archer VR200, does ADSL, VDSL,Cable and has 3/4G support.

had mine a year and it is rock solid.

Prices vary, typical was £80-85, but I managed to find a mislabelled on on Amazon for £65; not sure of the current prices though.
Will work with SKY BB as well.
#7
I love the Asus N55 + N66 had it over a 2 year and has not let me down once. and been with BT and Sky fibre


Edited By: djmackie2000 on Dec 14, 2016 13:30
#8
If you've definitely got fibre to the premises presented as an Ethernet connection then you don't need a router with a built in modem as you have to use the Openreach fibre modem (which is separate to the Smart Hub). If you've got this setup then your wall connection will currently be linked to one of the yellow ports on the back of the Smart Hub. A lot of places list these as Cable routers and suspect you might find these a bit cheaper like for like vs. a combined modem & router.

If you've got fibre to the cabinet (your wall connection will plug into the grey port on back of Smart Hub) then you need a combined VDSL2 modem & router to replace the Smart Hub.
#9
CrispyUK
If you've definitely got fibre to the premises presented as an Ethernet connection then you don't need a router with a built in modem as you have to use the Openreach fibre modem (which is separate to the Smart Hub). If you've got this setup then your wall connection will currently be linked to one of the yellow ports on the back of the Smart Hub. A lot of places list these as Cable routers and suspect you might find these a bit cheaper like for like vs. a combined modem & router.
If you've got fibre to the cabinet (your wall connection will plug into the grey port on back of Smart Hub) then you need a combined VDSL2 modem & router to replace the Smart Hub.

Thats why I suggested the VR200, it will do all flavours; I bought mine to replace a dying BT white box and old TPLink wifi router.
#10
moob
It's probably the Smart Hub 6 he's talking about - it's a piece of junk.

That correct OP? I've got the same thing and I can't even open a port properly in it. Driving me crazy!


yes mate. It's a horrendous piece of junk.

I have issues syncing gmail and most RSS-based services, the HUKD app needs to be refreshed 4-5 times to update, I can't log in to TeamViewer and certain apps with server-side authentication AT ALL... all issues that only occur on my home network and none of which have any logical solution. Their offshore customer service have been useless, as well as stubborn, patronising and untruthful.

Ideally I'd like to bin them off as a provider (only 3 weeks into my deal!) but I'm happy to buy my own router for a peaceful life. In fairness the up and down speeds are excellent.

Edited By: morocco1 on Dec 14, 2016 15:19: More detail
#11
morocco1
moob
It's probably the Smart Hub 6 he's talking about - it's a piece of junk.
That correct OP? I've got the same thing and I can't even open a port properly in it. Driving me crazy!
yes mate. It's a horrendous piece of junk.
Mines OK?!
#12
Rich44
Exactly right chap I replaced my HH5 which was also God awful with a Fritzbox 7490.

Replaced the VDSL modem
Router
Dect phone base

Replaced all 3 boxes with the one router. It has advanced call handling features like multiple mailboxes, use different handsets as virtual extensions, assign different phone numbers to different handsets so landline or voip (perfect for the kids), uses CLI so you can block certain numbers from being able to call in or out (again useful for kids)

Brilliant remote access facilities.

Fon app so you can answer your landline from any mobile device so no getting up to get the phone.

It's got a built in NAS via the USB3 ports (and supports USB printers)

There's facilities for remote control of electrical devices which also logs how much power is being used.

Yes it's expensive at £200 but it really is an amazing device there's even more stuff I haven't touched on like parental controls which can be applied per device rather than to everyone on the router, time limits & more.

Best piece of kit I've ever bought we never get disturbed by nuisance calls anymore.

Has great wireless B/G/N/AC 2.4 & 5ghz

I get about 900Mbps on AC on my phone around the house oO

Got a great deal from BT tho £200 cashback, half price line rental for 12 months, 12 months 55mbps fibre for £10 a month, free hub 6,free Youview Box & £100 prepaid debit card.

I sold the hub & Youview boxes for £87 for both Inc postage so quids in


That does look pretty good but I think its functionality outweighs my requirements - I don't use a landline, and already have my printer networked via some Netgear Powerline Adapters. Do they have a lower (cheaper) model suitable for what I want?

Additionally - is it possible to use them with Sky as ISP, as I know they like you to use their supplied hubs (which I've never had a problem with TBH). I'm not with them at present but given my experience thus far with BT, the shortlist for my next ISP is getting shorter.

Edited By: morocco1 on Dec 14, 2016 15:29: clarification
#13
I know the topic is a little old now, but fwiw I've just taken SkyQ and am using their SkyQ boxes (inc router) and I can't fault them so far. Been rock solid for the couple of weeks I've been using them. That is coupled with the TV from Sky too tho, so may not be what you are after.
#14
Sandman66
I know the topic is a little old now, but fwiw I've just taken SkyQ and am using their SkyQ boxes (inc router) and I can't fault them so far. Been rock solid for the couple of weeks I've been using them. That is coupled with the TV from Sky too tho, so may not be what you are after.


Thanks - I'd been a long time customer of Sky but they priced me out. Never had any bother with any of their hubs or devices. I'm contracted to BT now so can't use Sky hardware unfortunately.
#15
Try this first.

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