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I am looking to buy a car from my friends cousin, I have found out from the online DVLA check that the MOT has run out last week, Should I be paying less for the car as I now have to get the car MOT'd… Read More
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5m, 3w agoPosted 5 months, 3 weeks ago
I am looking to buy a car from my friends cousin, I have found out from the online DVLA check that the MOT has run out last week, Should I be paying less for the car as I now have to get the car MOT'd which I did not anticipate originally.
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5m, 3w agoPosted 5 months, 3 weeks ago
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#1
Big time - if you can go with them to a garage, and get it MOT'd whilst you both wait......you can then decide if you want it based on any failures. Halfords typically do the MOT for £30. Remember it's illegal to drive a car unless it has an MOT or you are driving specifically to a prebooked (provable) MOT - any automated reg recognition camera will get fined big time otherwise.
#2
Best bet is to ask for MOT maybe you front the bill which is up to £60 depending on car. Then say take it off the asking price if it passes. Either way if you really want the you are best putting through if it fails leave it if it passes buy it.
#3
I'd be asking them to MOT it before you buy it. You could be looking at a very costly MOT bill if you buy without and do yourself. Worse case you could buy that car and then find out it wont pass an MOT or isnt worth the money. Luckily you checked first
#4
You need to be cautious. If the car fails the MOT it could be expensive to get the repairs done and the maximum cost of an MOT is currently £54.85. Check if there were any advisory items on last years MOT test, if there were, and they haven't been done, its possible the car will fail test on them this year.
#5
nickz98
Big time - if you can go with them to a garage, and get it MOT'd whilst you both wait......you can then decide if you want it based on any failures. Halfords typically do the MOT for £30. Remember it's illegal to drive a car unless it has an MOT or you are driving specifically to a prebooked (provable) MOT - any automated reg recognition camera will get fined big time otherwise.


but I think you are allowed to drive it to a mot centre for testing
#6
Thanks for the replies, I think I am going to ask the guy to get it MOT'd first if he hasn't done so.
#7
taylor102081
nickz98
Big time - if you can go with them to a garage, and get it MOT'd whilst you both wait......you can then decide if you want it based on any failures. Halfords typically do the MOT for £30. Remember it's illegal to drive a car unless it has an MOT or you are driving specifically to a prebooked (provable) MOT - any automated reg recognition camera will get fined big time otherwise.
but I think you are allowed to drive it to a mot centre for testing

as in "...... or you are driving specifically to a prebooked (provable) MOT....."
#8
They were not obliged to have a valid MOT on it when they gave you a price. On the other hand you aren't obliged to pay for the car if it isn't to your satisfaction. personally I wouldn't proceed with the transaction as it doesn't have a valid MOT
#9
zhavybez
Thanks for the replies, I think I am going to ask the guy to get it MOT'd first if he hasn't done so.

If you can actually go with him.....some garages have bad reputations, you want it to be either a garage you know and trust, or a major brand where you know nobody is being slipped some money to ignore things..........No offence to any mechanics meant :-)
#10
any idea if we are protected, if the car has just been MOT'ed and not long after the car is found to have serious problems?
#11
nickz98
zhavybez
Thanks for the replies, I think I am going to ask the guy to get it MOT'd first if he hasn't done so.
If you can actually go with him.....some garages have bad reputations, you want it to be either a garage you know and trust, or a major brand where you know nobody is being slipped some money to ignore things..........No offence to any mechanics meant :-)

I am buying a BMW so going to make sure the car is BMW serviced so that the Full BMW Service History stays intact. I am only going to buy it if it is MOT'd.
#12
DancingDollar
any idea if we are protected, if the car has just been MOT'ed and not long after the car is found to have serious problems?

You're not really protected no. MOT's just check the SAFETY of the car, no more no less It doesn't mean it's mechanically sound
#13
Why buy a car without an MOT? You can't use it to drive on the road, so its just a pile of dead metal, scrap value only. It's the same for the seller so it's in their interest to get it MOT'd. Unless of course they know it wont pass. In which case avoid.
#14
MOT and service are not the same thing??? But you got the principle, spend his money on getting it serviced and MOTd by BMW. Then once it's yours don't waste your money on franchise dealers, utter rip off.
#15
zhavybez
Thanks for the replies, I think I am going to ask the guy to get it MOT'd first if he hasn't done so.
Unless he was selling it with a valid MOT I very much doubt he will agree to incurring a further outlay
#16
Get him to do the MOT
#17
Why is he selling it, because it needs major repairs I reckon.
#18
Post the Vehicle reg and ill post what it failed on and advisory
#19
The sellers cousin is a very close family friend who has said there isn't anything wrong with the car, of course I am going to go check and make sure its MOT'd.
#20
You won't be able to tax it without an MOT, and you'll have to tax it as soon as you take ownership, so you won't be able to drive it anywhere.
#22
scaffolder
Post the Vehicle reg and ill post what it failed on and advisory

why ???

OP, just check yourself here.... https://www.gov.uk/check-mot-history

it will tell you current and previous mots which are handy to verify mileage
#23
If there's nothing wrong with the car why was the car allowed to over run it's MOT?

Basic stuff. If you're going to sell to a "non-friend" any prospective buyer wants to see a valid MOT on the car, otherwise it looks bad.

If it's mechnically sound enough to pass an MOT, throwing it cheap basic MOT test centre is peanuts, if it isn't, then the prospective buyer could end up forking out £100s for repairs, which would put anyone in their right mind off.
Most sellers always have this in mind.

Also, whilst https://www.gov.uk/check-mot-history is a great tool, take it with a pinch of salt. A lot of garages have 'deals' with test centres where if a car fails, they'll pass it on the obligation that the garage will do the repairs neccessary for that "pass" -- which they will, but it won't ever show as a fail on the system which can give a false sense of security that the car "passed with flying colours" when it didn't.
#24
Gynx
If there's nothing wrong with the car why was the car allowed to over run it's MOT?
Basic stuff. If you're going to sell to a "non-friend" any prospective buyer wants to see a valid MOT on the car, otherwise it looks bad.
If it's mechnically sound enough to pass an MOT, throwing it cheap basic MOT test centre is peanuts, if it isn't, then the prospective buyer could end up forking out £100s for repairs, which would put anyone in their right mind off.

the mot history can also give an indication that the car may have been in an accident previously too.
Most sellers always have this in mind.
Also, whilst https://www.gov.uk/check-mot-history is a great tool, take it with a pinch of salt. A lot of garages have 'deals' with test centres where if a car fails, they'll pass it on the obligation that the garage will do the repairs neccessary for that "pass" -- which they will, but it won't ever show as a fail on the system which can give a false sense of security that the car "passed with flying colours" when it didn't.

would you pay for repairs on an mot failure issue without seeing that the repairs were necessary ? personally I get mot done at a place that only does mot. repairs are at another garage that I trust.

Edited By: jonnithomas on Feb 03, 2017 18:44
#25
Gynx
If there's nothing wrong with the car why was the car allowed to over run it's MOT?

Basic stuff. If you're going to sell to a "non-friend" any prospective buyer wants to see a valid MOT on the car, otherwise it looks bad.

If it's mechnically sound enough to pass an MOT, throwing it cheap basic MOT test centre is peanuts, if it isn't, then the prospective buyer could end up forking out £100s for repairs, which would put anyone in their right mind off.
Most sellers always have this in mind.

Also, whilst https://www.gov.uk/check-mot-history is a great tool, take it with a pinch of salt. A lot of garages have 'deals' with test centres where if a car fails, they'll pass it on the obligation that the garage will do the repairs neccessary for that "pass" -- which they will, but it won't ever show as a fail on the system which can give a false sense of security that the car "passed with flying colours" when it didn't.


What an absolute load of garbage. How on earth can a fail result for an mot possibly be erased from the system?

Once the fail sheet is logged and printed it CANNOT be erased from the system by anyone. Where do you get your info from?
#26
And it doesnt matter what your told op a car is basically worth nothing without mot.
#27
I sold one without an MOT a few weeks back, had been stored and sorn for a few years after a family member died, we mot'd it but didn't want to sell it immediately due to personal reasons. was immaculate though with 9 miles since last mot.

bloke left it with us once paid to sort recovery, he came 2 weeks later and drove it away happily.

to my amazement, it had passed an mot 3 days earlier..while still on my land..where it hadn't moved 10ft in 3 years. didn't report it or anything, as the car was 100% in his name etc by this time.

this isn't very helpful I know but thought I'd share it..

123batman321
And it doesnt matter what your told op a car is basically worth nothing without mot.
I got 2.8k for the one I am talking about above..probably only worth a few hundred more with an mot
#28
123batman321
Gynx
If there's nothing wrong with the car why was the car allowed to over run it's MOT?
Basic stuff. If you're going to sell to a "non-friend" any prospective buyer wants to see a valid MOT on the car, otherwise it looks bad.
If it's mechnically sound enough to pass an MOT, throwing it cheap basic MOT test centre is peanuts, if it isn't, then the prospective buyer could end up forking out £100s for repairs, which would put anyone in their right mind off.
Most sellers always have this in mind.
Also, whilst https://www.gov.uk/check-mot-history is a great tool, take it with a pinch of salt. A lot of garages have 'deals' with test centres where if a car fails, they'll pass it on the obligation that the garage will do the repairs neccessary for that "pass" -- which they will, but it won't ever show as a fail on the system which can give a false sense of security that the car "passed with flying colours" when it didn't.
What an absolute load of garbage. How on earth can a fail result for an mot possibly be erased from the system?
Once the fail sheet is logged and printed it CANNOT be erased from the system by anyone. Where do you get your info from?
Gynx isn't talking "garbage", you haven't read his comment properly. What he's saying is that the car doesn't fail, the test centre gives it a pass and tells the garage what repairs are necessary, and the garage does them but doesn't need to bring it back for a retest. So on paper the car sailed through its MOT.

Edited By: Delbert.Grady on Feb 03, 2017 20:04
#29
Delbert.Grady
123batman321
Gynx
If there's nothing wrong with the car why was the car allowed to over run it's MOT?
Basic stuff. If you're going to sell to a "non-friend" any prospective buyer wants to see a valid MOT on the car, otherwise it looks bad.
If it's mechnically sound enough to pass an MOT, throwing it cheap basic MOT test centre is peanuts, if it isn't, then the prospective buyer could end up forking out £100s for repairs, which would put anyone in their right mind off.
Most sellers always have this in mind.
Also, whilst https://www.gov.uk/check-mot-history is a great tool, take it with a pinch of salt. A lot of garages have 'deals' with test centres where if a car fails, they'll pass it on the obligation that the garage will do the repairs neccessary for that "pass" -- which they will, but it won't ever show as a fail on the system which can give a false sense of security that the car "passed with flying colours" when it didn't.
What an absolute load of garbage. How on earth can a fail result for an mot possibly be erased from the system?
Once the fail sheet is logged and printed it CANNOT be erased from the system by anyone. Where do you get your info from?
Gynx isn't talking "garbage", you haven't read his comment properly. What he's saying is that the car doesn't fail, the test centre gives it a pass and tells the garage what repairs are necessary, and the garage does them but doesn't need to bring it back for a retest. So on paper the car sailed through its MOT.


Ok so going by your theory what happens when you tell the customer its failed then? Customer says ok thats fine i think il just scrap it then and they check on the website to see what tax is left and low and behold its got a years mot?
#30
dataload
I sold one without an MOT a few weeks back, had been stored and sorn for a few years after a family member died, we mot'd it but didn't want to sell it immediately due to personal reasons. was immaculate though with 9 miles since last mot.

bloke left it with us once paid to sort recovery, he came 2 weeks later and drove it away happily.

to my amazement, it had passed an mot 3 days earlier..while still on my land..where it hadn't moved 10ft in 3 years. didn't report it or anything, as the car was 100% in his name etc by this time.

this isn't very helpful I know but thought I'd share it..

123batman321
And it doesnt matter what your told op a car is basically worth nothing without mot.
I got 2.8k for the one I am talking about above..probably only worth a few hundred more with an mot


Hey data im talking about cars in the bracket the op was meaning. Your relatives car must of had some value in the first place to be worth money with no mot. There are exceptions but for example an 03 plate focus is worth 500-1000 depending on condition and miles with a years test. The same car is worth scrap value with no mot so your tallin 50-100
#31
Delbert.Grady
123batman321
Gynx
If there's nothing wrong with the car why was the car allowed to over run it's MOT?
Basic stuff. If you're going to sell to a "non-friend" any prospective buyer wants to see a valid MOT on the car, otherwise it looks bad.
If it's mechnically sound enough to pass an MOT, throwing it cheap basic MOT test centre is peanuts, if it isn't, then the prospective buyer could end up forking out £100s for repairs, which would put anyone in their right mind off.
Most sellers always have this in mind.
Also, whilst https://www.gov.uk/check-mot-history is a great tool, take it with a pinch of salt. A lot of garages have 'deals' with test centres where if a car fails, they'll pass it on the obligation that the garage will do the repairs neccessary for that "pass" -- which they will, but it won't ever show as a fail on the system which can give a false sense of security that the car "passed with flying colours" when it didn't.
What an absolute load of garbage. How on earth can a fail result for an mot possibly be erased from the system?
Once the fail sheet is logged and printed it CANNOT be erased from the system by anyone. Where do you get your info from?
Gynx isn't talking "garbage", you haven't read his comment properly. What he's saying is that the car doesn't fail, the test centre gives it a pass and tells the garage what repairs are necessary, and the garage does them but doesn't need to bring it back for a retest. So on paper the car sailed through its MOT.


If your runnin a test station by that theory youll not be open long mate. Every single stat you enter is recorded
#32
It's a wind up .. Why do you guys bite?
#33
123batman321
And it doesnt matter what your told op a car is basically worth nothing without mot.

So a 3 year old Mercedes that for a vast array of reasons, is in good shape but the owner has let the not lapse, is worthless. Rubbish, each car has a value on its one merits.

In the above scenario, it was a vicar that only drove it to the church once a week, but on the day of a skydive, two days before his MOT date, his parachute didn't open and he is in a coma.

The car can easily be worth a little or a lot without an MOT.

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