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Hi, I'm looking for some advice on cameras. I have been doing research but I think I'm just confusing myself. Basically I want a good quality camera with a reasonable zoom that costs less than £150 (… Read More
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2m, 4w agoPosted 2 months, 4 weeks ago
Hi, I'm looking for some advice on cameras. I have been doing research but I think I'm just confusing myself.
Basically I want a good quality camera with a reasonable zoom that costs less than £150 (can spend more if the camera is from John Lewis as I have a £50 voucher). I want to be able to take really good photos, mainly scenery and people.
These are the contesters so far:
Fujifilm S8650 (£139 Amazon)
Sony cybershot DSC H400 (£169 with JL voucher)
Sony cybershot DSC WX350 (£119 with JL voucher)
Thanks for any help you can offer :)
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2m, 4w agoPosted 2 months, 4 weeks ago
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#1
not sure but just checking you are aware that you have listed 2 different types of camera
first 2 are much larger in size than the wx350 (and h400 much bigger than fuji) so is size not an issue?

link showing size comparison..

http://j.mp/2k3CfZt

(rx100 same size as wx350)


Edited By: brilly on Jan 26, 2017 08:26
banned#2
Get a Phone camera
#3
For the price I think the H400
#4
http://cameradecision.com/compare/Nikon-Coolpix-B500-vs-Sony-Cyber-shot-DSC-H400
I'd actually be asking JL if they are going to more stock of the Nikon B500 in, newer camera, same price, depends how big your hands are which you'd prefer though
#5
Generally you can't get a new camera that is "good quality" and takes "really good photos" for your budget.

In that price range you are looking at a compact camera or a bridge camera that will take average "snapshot" photos.

A better option would be to get a 2nd hand DSLR, compact system camera or something like the Sony rx100 if you want it to be more compact.

These cameras have a larger sensor (particularly DSLR or compact system camera) that allow you to have better image quality.

You could get something like a canon 30d
https://www.mpb.com/en-uk/used-equipment/used-photo-and-video/used-digital-slr-cameras/used-canon-digital-slr-cameras/

And a 18-55mm lens
https://www.mpb.com/en-uk/used-equipment/used-photo-and-video/used-lenses/used-canon-fit-lenses/canon-ef-s-18-55mm-f-3-5-5-6-ii/sku-642319/

If you buy from a dealer like mpb then they also come with warranty

Edited By: mike_6480 on Jan 26, 2017 08:39
#6
I'm guessing from your budget that you're looking for a point and shoot.

In which case the Canon S100 is the best in class, size to image quality is superb, actually, there's an S110 now, perhaps even an S120, just trust me, get a Canon Powershot S1XX?
#7
mike_6480
Generally you can't get a new camera that is "good quality" and takes "really good photos" for your budget.
In that price range you are looking at a compact camera or a bridge camera that will take average "snapshot" photos.
A better option would be to get a 2nd hand DSLR, compact system camera or something like the Sony rx100 if you want it to be more compact.
These cameras have a larger sensor (particularly DSLR or compact system camera) that allow you to have better image quality.
You could get something like a canon 30dhttps://www.mpb.com/en-uk/used-equipment/used-photo-and-video/used-digital-slr-cameras/used-canon-digital-slr-cameras/
And a 18-55mm lenshttps://www.mpb.com/en-uk/used-equipment/used-photo-and-video/used-lenses/used-canon-fit-lenses/canon-ef-s-18-55mm-f-3-5-5-6-ii/sku-642319/
If you buy from a dealer like mpb then they also come with warranty

Good advice.
[Travel Expert]#8
I have a Panasonic Lumix TZ60, but these are £249 in John Lewis. Perhaps if you look for a lower spec Lumix elsewhere you may get a better offer. The zoom is amazing and it's a compact camera with a lot of the benefits of some of the lower spec DSLRs such as a viewfinder. It also has wi-fi and GPS. The app is great as it lets you transfer the pics off remotely and it's great for travelling.
#9
yes I know I listed 2 different types, preferably I'd have a bridge camera but I understand at my budget getting a good bridge camera won't be easy. size is not an issue at all, I generally always have a bag so don't need pocket sized. Thanks for the comparison though, it is good to see the size difference
#10
mike_6480
Generally you can't get a new camera that is "good quality" and takes "really good photos" for your budget.

In that price range you are looking at a compact camera or a bridge camera that will take average "snapshot" photos.

A better option would be to get a 2nd hand DSLR, compact system camera or something like the Sony rx100 if you want it to be more compact.

These cameras have a larger sensor (particularly DSLR or compact system camera) that allow you to have better image quality.

You could get something like a canon 30d
https://www.mpb.com/en-uk/used-equipment/used-photo-and-video/used-digital-slr-cameras/used-canon-digital-slr-cameras/

And a 18-55mm lens
https://www.mpb.com/en-uk/used-equipment/used-photo-and-video/used-lenses/used-canon-fit-lenses/canon-ef-s-18-55mm-f-3-5-5-6-ii/sku-642319/

If you buy from a dealer like mpb then they also come with warranty


Thank you, that's very useful, I'll have a good look at the cameras and lenses on that website.
When I said really good I meant good to look at haha.
#11
rachelandgromit
I have a Panasonic Lumix TZ60, but these are £249 in John Lewis. Perhaps if you look for a lower spec Lumix elsewhere you may get a better offer. The zoom is amazing and it's a compact camera with a lot of the benefits of some of the lower spec DSLRs such as a viewfinder. It also has wi-fi and GPS. The app is great as it lets you transfer the pics off remotely and it's great for travelling.
not really the same thing a dslr and a compact camera
#12
helen1815
yes I know I listed 2 different types, preferably I'd have a bridge camera but I understand at my budget getting a good bridge camera won't be easy. size is not an issue at all, I generally always have a bag so don't need pocket sized. Thanks for the comparison though, it is good to see the size difference
what functions of both bridges do you think you need over the wx350?
#13
Get the best Panasonic you can afford, simple as that. The are not many rubbish cameras around to day or for the last 10 years or so. Perhaps get a second hand camera which allows you to buy a better one for less. Cameras are one of those things the either get used a lot as an hobby or used once for an holiday and forgot so the are always some hardly used great cameras around.
#14
Ok. This is over budget and you might want a longer lens but this is a great price for a fully guaranteed/as new camera from Fuji refurbs http://shop.fujifilm.co.uk/fujifilm-x-a2-with-xc16-50mm-mkii-lens-refurbished.html . Take off 10% code and it comes in at £179.10 (cheapest around is £330 new). Good quality and features and room to upgrade later. Maybe not for you but a good deal for someone.
#15
The advice from marty-401 is very good, these cameras have a large aps-c sensor, the same as many smaller dslrs. I personally use aps-c. Enlargements printed to 4 ft x 3 ft are quite possible with this kind of resolution and it is a good base for further expansion of the system.
#16
JohnGillham
The advice from marty-401 is very good, these cameras have a large aps-c sensor, the same as many smaller dslrs. I personally use aps-c. Enlargements printed to 4 ft x 3 ft are quite possible with this kind of resolution and it is a good base for further expansion of the system.
In fact it is such a good deal I have ordered one
#17
JohnGillham
JohnGillham
The advice from marty-401 is very good, these cameras have a large aps-c sensor, the same as many smaller dslrs. I personally use aps-c. Enlargements printed to 4 ft x 3 ft are quite possible with this kind of resolution and it is a good base for further expansion of the system.
In fact it is such a good deal I have ordered one

I'm tempted too. Curse this site!

OP - if you can push your budget to this, you will see a massive difference in picture quality to those previously mentioned.
#18
marty-401
Ok. This is over budget and you might want a longer lens but this is a great price for a fully guaranteed/as new camera from Fuji refurbs http://shop.fujifilm.co.uk/fujifilm-x-a2-with-xc16-50mm-mkii-lens-refurbished.html . Take off 10% code and it comes in at £179.10 (cheapest around is £330 new). Good quality and features and room to upgrade later. Maybe not for you but a good deal for someone.


oh gosh! That looks like a good deal really, and my dad swears by Fuji... I'll have to find myself some more money for that one!
#19
brilly
helen1815
yes I know I listed 2 different types, preferably I'd have a bridge camera but I understand at my budget getting a good bridge camera won't be easy. size is not an issue at all, I generally always have a bag so don't need pocket sized. Thanks for the comparison though, it is good to see the size difference
what functions of both bridges do you think you need over the wx350?

I am not sure, I figure a bridge camera would be best as it would help me to see if photography is something worth investing in for myself. I thought it would help introduce me to good photography a little more...maybe I am wrong (as I really don't know a huge deal about cameras).
#20
Trying to get someone to buy my JL voucher so I can afford the fujifilm one... I have looked at reviews and it does seem really good, plus I can buy add-ons at a later date!
#21
helen1815
Trying to get someone to buy my JL voucher so I can afford the fujifilm one... I have looked at reviews and it does seem really good, plus I can buy add-ons at a later date!
There is a 10% off code available but postage to add mine came £184.09, if you get your dad to buy into the same system you can share lenses in the future, I do that with some of my Nikon equipment.
#22
helen1815
brilly
helen1815
yes I know I listed 2 different types, preferably I'd have a bridge camera but I understand at my budget getting a good bridge camera won't be easy. size is not an issue at all, I generally always have a bag so don't need pocket sized. Thanks for the comparison though, it is good to see the size difference
what functions of both bridges do you think you need over the wx350?
I am not sure, I figure a bridge camera would be best as it would help me to see if photography is something worth investing in for myself. I thought it would help introduce me to good photography a little more...maybe I am wrong (as I really don't know a huge deal about cameras).

If I were you, I'd go into a specialist camera shop with experienced staff and try some out. How they feel in your hand is a really key part of getting a suitable camera - if pressing the shutter button without moving is difficult, you'll get blurry shots however good the spec. You'll be able to try out the controls, compare photos and have the differences in quality explained and demonstrated.

The best piece of advice I've ever read when wondering 'what is the best camera?' is 'the one that you have with you'. This single piece of advice has made my Nikon DSLR and various expensive lenses almost redundant. I mainly use a Sony RX100 now, simply because it is compact enough to always carry with me. The photos aren't as good as with the DSLR, but they are good enough and it means I capture impromptu photos rather than having to go out with a big bag of gear on specific photo-taking outings.
#23
helen1815
marty-401
Ok. This is over budget and you might want a longer lens but this is a great price for a fully guaranteed/as new camera from Fuji refurbs http://shop.fujifilm.co.uk/fujifilm-x-a2-with-xc16-50mm-mkii-lens-refurbished.html . Take off 10% code and it comes in at £179.10 (cheapest around is £330 new). Good quality and features and room to upgrade later. Maybe not for you but a good deal for someone.
oh gosh! That looks like a good deal really, and my dad swears by Fuji... I'll have to find myself some more money for that one!
it is a good deal and camera but you said you wanted reasonable zoom
guess it depends what you mean by reasonable - the lens that camera comes with has a range of roughly 1x-3x (rather than 1-20 or 1-63 of ones in op)
sure its going to be nicer quality over that 1x-3x zoom range but is almost useless for eg a trip to the zoo or a bird or anything needing a bit of zoom really... unless you buy another lens as well which is 250quid new atm (this lens is also the cheapest fuji you can buy)
even with that lens its like using it in the 3x-14x range of these other cameras (you lose the 1x-3x as swapped lens over)
again, the xa2 is going to be better over the same zoom range (and a bit more as you can crop better) but as you zoom further and further the xa2 has nothing more it can do whilst the others can zoom optically
at some point the natural optical zoom will probably overtake the quality of the cropped results from xa2


Edited By: brilly on Jan 27, 2017 09:30: .

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