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Can you install Win 7 and Win 8 on a new Win10 laptop that is preinstalled with Win10 only?

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I really need a cheap laptop that I can install Win 7 and Win 8 on as I need to be able to test some websites. I don't want to use a virtual machine for testing - I need to be able to dual boot betwee… Read More
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6m, 1d agoPosted 6 months, 1 day ago
I really need a cheap laptop that I can install Win 7 and Win 8 on as I need to be able to test some websites. I don't want to use a virtual machine for testing - I need to be able to dual boot between the 7 and 8 OSs.

I'm just wondering if anyone knows if it is possible to install 7 and 8 on a brand new PC that is preinstalled with Win10 (and doesn't have downgrade rights etc.)?

All the deals I'm seeing are for Windows 10 computers. Would the newer hardware accept W7 and W8? Would it be difficult to do (I'm not an experienced PC user) and would it void any warranty?

I know there are some cheap refurbs on ebay but I'm not so keen and would rather buy something new that comes with a decent warranty.

Thanks for any advice.

PS. by cheap I mean something like this http://www.hotukdeals.com/deals/hp-250-g5-saveonlaptops-256gb-ssd-i3-5005-4gb-282-97-2559604
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6m, 1d agoPosted 6 months, 1 day ago
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I did see some cheaper business machines/refurbs with W7 still installed or downgrade rights but they often have older processors like pentium or celeron.

Intel uses the Celeron/Pentium branding these days to denote the low end models, so their full range for any given CPU design is Celeron, Pentium, i3, i5, i7, Xeon. They're generally not old chips that Intel is still producing for backwards compatibility.

They tend to get released a couple of months later than the i5/i7 models so technically they're the newest thing on the market, although the design is the same age as the more expensive chips.

So a 6th generation pentium such as the G4400 is just as up to date as an i3-6100 or i5-6400.

They're slower of course, but still pretty potent. A G4400 is roughly the equal of a laptop i5-6200U.

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do you have to load the drivers for W7/8 before you install those operating systems or after?

The earliest you can install them is during the OS install and that's rare - generally only if you've got an exotic storage device. Everything else gets installed afterwards.

Edited By: EndlessWaves on Nov 28, 2016 13:59: missing word

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#1
it depends how you intend to install windows 7/8
if its from a bootable usb drive you might struggle as some newer laptops dont have any usb 2.0 usb ports so its quite difficult to get the usb 3.0 port to see the 2.0 flash drive ?
what i do is create a folder in the c drive and put my usb 2.0 drivers in that folder, then boot the laptop and when it asks for the usb 2.0 drivers i just point it to the folder on the c drive.
so as long as the drivers are available for the hardware on you laptop for win 7/8 its easy and possible
#2
Sounds like a right PITA. As a web developer myself, I use VMware and run multiple OS for this exact purpose. Dual booting will be a lot of faffing around for testing browser versions when all you need is one 'stock' OS install with the minimum browser version you wish to support, then update to each version of browser as you test up to the latest build, then revert back to your stock VM. Simple with no risk of having previous installed browser versions messing up results.
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GrantG182
Sounds like a right PITA. As a web developer myself, I use VMware and run multiple OS for this exact purpose. Dual booting will be a lot of faffing around for testing browser versions when all you need is one 'stock' OS install with the minimum browser version you wish to support, then update to each version of browser as you test up to the latest build, then revert back to your stock VM. Simple with no risk of having previous installed browser versions messing up results.

100% Agree. Use VMs.
#4
If its Windows 10 pro/enterprise install Hyper V and run VMs. Will be a lot easier than dual booting, less can go wrong.
#5
If you decide you don't want to go down the VM are route best thing to do is check the manufacturers website and check in the drivers/bios section that they would support it. A few years ago a friend bought a Toshiba laptop with Windows 8 installed and he didn't like it, wanted to go back to Windows 7. I checked the website and there was no drivers for it, but there was a Bios downgrade. Regardless of what we did unfortunately to install W7 it didn't work so he ended up having to like W8.
#6
In short yes. There is no issue installing win 7 on a laptop running win 10.
All you need is the installation media.
Wipe the drive and partition it and install the 2 operating systems.
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L1YD
If its Windows 10 pro/enterprise install Hyper V and run VMs. Will be a lot easier than dual booting, less can go wrong.

Did anyone read his post. He wants a cheap laptop to dual boot and doesn't want to run vms.
A cheap laptop prob won't have the resources to run vms and its easy to dual boot a pc

Edited By: kotr on Nov 27, 2016 09:50
#8
The main issue would be whether the hardware had Windows 7 and Windows 8 drivers. Many business laptops offer Windows 7 compatibility using downgrade rights so they'd definitely be available if you spent a bit more for a business machine. What percentage of £300 mass market laptops support it I'm not sure, but at least some of them won't.

I can't think of any other insurmountable issues. Dual and triple booting has never been restricted licence-wise. I assume you mean Windows 8.1 rather than Windows 8 so you shouldn't run into secure boot issues and installation media is neither here nor there.
#9
kotr
In short yes. There is no issue installing win 7 on a laptop running win 10.
All you need is the installation media.
Wipe the drive and partition it and install the 2 operating systems.

^^^^ Would do this ^^^^
Format the drive using Hirens boot disc on USB or Partition Magic etc
Install Windows 7 & 8, job done.
Don't know what the issue is with that??
#10
Thanks for the suggestions. I understand using a VM would be a lot easier but the business I work for has mandated only actual OSs can be used so that's why I need to be able to dual boot.

I did see some cheaper business machines/refurbs with W7 still installed or downgrade rights but they often have older processors like pentium or celeron. Do you think that would be an issue?

I would be getting my OSs most likely on a disk so hopefully they would install. Also sorry this sounds dumb (I always used macs as worked in design) - do you have to load the drivers for W7/8 before you install those operating systems or after? I you've wiped W10 would it be after that you install the drivers?

Thanks
#11
Wipe (format) windows 10, install windows 7, then install any missing drivers. The same for win 8
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hatchers
I did see some cheaper business machines/refurbs with W7 still installed or downgrade rights but they often have older processors like pentium or celeron.

Intel uses the Celeron/Pentium branding these days to denote the low end models, so their full range for any given CPU design is Celeron, Pentium, i3, i5, i7, Xeon. They're generally not old chips that Intel is still producing for backwards compatibility.

They tend to get released a couple of months later than the i5/i7 models so technically they're the newest thing on the market, although the design is the same age as the more expensive chips.

So a 6th generation pentium such as the G4400 is just as up to date as an i3-6100 or i5-6400.

They're slower of course, but still pretty potent. A G4400 is roughly the equal of a laptop i5-6200U.

hatchers
do you have to load the drivers for W7/8 before you install those operating systems or after?

The earliest you can install them is during the OS install and that's rare - generally only if you've got an exotic storage device. Everything else gets installed afterwards.

Edited By: EndlessWaves on Nov 28, 2016 13:59: missing word
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kotr
L1YD
If its Windows 10 pro/enterprise install Hyper V and run VMs. Will be a lot easier than dual booting, less can go wrong.
Did anyone read his post. He wants a cheap laptop to dual boot and doesn't want to run vms.
A cheap laptop prob won't have the resources to run vms and its easy to dual boot a pc

Maybe because the suggested solution of buying a cheap laptop to install an old OS to test websites is totally absurd and even though he said he doesn't want to run VMs, it is still by far the best solution.

I can't fathom why you would need a physical OS to test a website.

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