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Holland & Barrett sell CBD oil for £20 and before I purchase can anyone shed any light on its health benefits. My father in law suffers greatly from rheumotoid arthritis so I was considering suggestin… Read More
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1m, 3w agoPosted 1 month, 3 weeks ago
Holland & Barrett sell CBD oil for £20 and before I purchase can anyone shed any light on its health benefits. My father in law suffers greatly from rheumotoid arthritis so I was considering suggesting this as an alternative to his prescribed medication to try. Is there cheaper alternatives or suppliers even... thanks for any advice,opinions or recommendations in advance
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#1
It can work wonders, but you really need to go to a good reputable stockist.

Interesting website: http://www.thecannabist.co/2017/02/28/medical-marijuana-opioid-epidemic-research/74558/

Are you on facebook? There are some excellent groups. I have asked a friend of mine who is something of an expert -- and will get back to you.
#2
It's an anti inflammatory, high in omega 3 and good for the skin.

Don't believe too much propaganda from either side, though regarding to much else untill there is more evidence.

Also buy from Amazon or similar you can buy large bottles for cheap, H&B are a rip.

Edited By: catbeans on Mar 06, 2017 15:42
#3
I purchased some great cbd oil from here - http://www.cbdo.co.uk

I also bought some tea bags, which are delicious.

Personally, I find it helps my mood, and my "racing brain". I honestly do and have felt the benefits. I've been taking it for about 6 months.

It looks like the site is getting updated, but pm me, as I'm sure I have a discount code somewhere >>>
#4
absolutely no medical benefits based on this meta analysis of 20,000 studies related to cannabis
https://www.nap.edu/catalog/24625/the-health-effects-of-cannabis-and-cannabinoids-the-current-state
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any positive effects are due to placebo since all "benefits" are symptomatic and not curative




Edited By: mattsokolinski on Mar 06, 2017 18:57
banned#5
I doubt its real cannabis oil.

Its a class A drug or certainly used to be.

Edited By: YouDontWantToKnow on Mar 06, 2017 19:11: s
banned#6
mattsokolinski
absolutely no medical benefits based on this meta analysis of 20,000 studies related to cannabis https://www.nap.edu/catalog/24625/the-health-effects-of-cannabis-and-cannabinoids-the-current-state
Download as guest using any fake email
any positive effects are due to placebo since all "benefits" are symptomatic and not curative
Erm.

Have you actually read that?

There's absolutely no way you could write off 20000 separate studies like that.

And I very much doubt it does this.

My uncle with MS has recently been trialed with an inhaler derived from cannabis and it's absolutely changed his life.

Also, I think you're confusing what a placebo actually is.

Loads of our drugs are symptomatic.

Paracetamol doesn't cure your headache.

Morphine doesn't cure you when you're in pain.

Anti inflammation drugs... antihistamines...

An awful lot of medicine isn't about finding a cure.

It's about finding something that best manages or alleviates symptoms.



Edited By: Byron78 on Mar 06, 2017 19:21: Dumb
#7
Byron78
mattsokolinski
absolutely no medical benefits based on this meta analysis of 20,000 studies related to cannabis https://www.nap.edu/catalog/24625/the-health-effects-of-cannabis-and-cannabinoids-the-current-state
Download as guest using any fake email
any positive effects are due to placebo since all "benefits" are symptomatic and not curative
Erm.
Have you actually read that?
There's absolutely no way you could write off 20000 separate studies like that.
And I very much doubt it does this.
My uncle with MS has recently been trialed with an inhaler derived from cannabis and it's absolutely changed his life.
He's an ex-stockbroker as well so not exactly your stereotypical pot smoking type. Was hugely skeptical at first and thought it was all hippy nonsense.

you clearly have no idea how scientific studies are analysed dont you?

suggest you check what systematic review or meta analysis is

PS> how was your uncle trialled? just wondering since CBD has not been approved....

Edited By: mattsokolinski on Mar 06, 2017 19:23
banned#8
mattsokolinski
Byron78
mattsokolinski
absolutely no medical benefits based on this meta analysis of 20,000 studies related to cannabis https://www.nap.edu/catalog/24625/the-health-effects-of-cannabis-and-cannabinoids-the-current-state
Download as guest using any fake email
any positive effects are due to placebo since all "benefits" are symptomatic and not curative
Erm.
Have you actually read that?
There's absolutely no way you could write off 20000 separate studies like that.
And I very much doubt it does this.
My uncle with MS has recently been trialed with an inhaler derived from cannabis and it's absolutely changed his life.
He's an ex-stockbroker as well so not exactly your stereotypical pot smoking type. Was hugely skeptical at first and thought it was all hippy nonsense.
you clearly have no idea how scientific studies are analysed dont you?
suggest you check what systematic review or meta analysis is
1) I'm a scientist. So yeah, I do.

2) With respect, you don't know the difference between a placebo and symptomatic treatment. So I'm probably arguing with an idiot here.
#9
Byron78
mattsokolinski
Byron78
mattsokolinski
absolutely no medical benefits based on this meta analysis of 20,000 studies related to cannabis https://www.nap.edu/catalog/24625/the-health-effects-of-cannabis-and-cannabinoids-the-current-state
Download as guest using any fake email
any positive effects are due to placebo since all "benefits" are symptomatic and not curative
Erm.
Have you actually read that?
There's absolutely no way you could write off 20000 separate studies like that.
And I very much doubt it does this.
My uncle with MS has recently been trialed with an inhaler derived from cannabis and it's absolutely changed his life.
He's an ex-stockbroker as well so not exactly your stereotypical pot smoking type. Was hugely skeptical at first and thought it was all hippy nonsense.
you clearly have no idea how scientific studies are analysed dont you?
suggest you check what systematic review or meta analysis is
1) I'm a scientist. So yeah, I do.
2) With respect, you don't know the difference between a placebo and symptomatic treatment. So I'm probably arguing with an idiot here.
you cannot be serious. if you are scientist
1. you would know that studies like that exist
2. symptomatic treatment can be proven placebo cannot (since you measure one agains the other)
banned#10
mattsokolinski
Byron78
mattsokolinski
Byron78
mattsokolinski
absolutely no medical benefits based on this meta analysis of 20,000 studies related to cannabis https://www.nap.edu/catalog/24625/the-health-effects-of-cannabis-and-cannabinoids-the-current-state
Download as guest using any fake email
any positive effects are due to placebo since all "benefits" are symptomatic and not curative
Erm.
Have you actually read that?
There's absolutely no way you could write off 20000 separate studies like that.
And I very much doubt it does this.
My uncle with MS has recently been trialed with an inhaler derived from cannabis and it's absolutely changed his life.
He's an ex-stockbroker as well so not exactly your stereotypical pot smoking type. Was hugely skeptical at first and thought it was all hippy nonsense.
you clearly have no idea how scientific studies are analysed dont you?
suggest you check what systematic review or meta analysis is
1) I'm a scientist. So yeah, I do.
2) With respect, you don't know the difference between a placebo and symptomatic treatment. So I'm probably arguing with an idiot here.
you cannot be serious. if you are scientist
1. you would know that studies like that exist
2. symptomatic treatment can be proven placebo cannot (since you measure one agains the other)
Yeah. I'm serious.

And no.

Studies like that don't exist.

You can broadly say "most cold medicines are symptomatic". Of course you can.

What you can't do is say those 20000 seperate studies (ranging widely in subject matter, tests, and quality control) have all found roughly the same thing. A lot of the time in studies it's hard enough to replicate someone else's results, so very often exactly the same type of study can actually say 2 (or more) different things. That's one study type. A consensus amongst 20000 completely different studies? Nope. Not a chance fella.

As for symptomatic evidence of cannabis use having medicinal benefit, well here's one study , of bloody hundreds, that HAVE found such evidence.

But tbh I'm leaving this here. Mainly because you appear to be thicker than a whale omelette and it's an absolute waste of my time arguing with someone that has all the intellectual capacity of a hammer.



Edited By: Byron78 on Mar 08, 2017 10:20: Mis
#11
Byron78
mattsokolinski
Byron78
mattsokolinski
Byron78
mattsokolinski
absolutely no medical benefits based on this meta analysis of 20,000 studies related to cannabis https://www.nap.edu/catalog/24625/the-health-effects-of-cannabis-and-cannabinoids-the-current-state
Download as guest using any fake email
any positive effects are due to placebo since all "benefits" are symptomatic and not curative
Erm.
Have you actually read that?
There's absolutely no way you could write off 20000 separate studies like that.
And I very much doubt it does this.
My uncle with MS has recently been trialed with an inhaler derived from cannabis and it's absolutely changed his life.
He's an ex-stockbroker as well so not exactly your stereotypical pot smoking type. Was hugely skeptical at first and thought it was all hippy nonsense.
you clearly have no idea how scientific studies are analysed dont you?
suggest you check what systematic review or meta analysis is
1) I'm a scientist. So yeah, I do.
2) With respect, you don't know the difference between a placebo and symptomatic treatment. So I'm probably arguing with an idiot here.
you cannot be serious. if you are scientist
1. you would know that studies like that exist
2. symptomatic treatment can be proven placebo cannot (since you measure one agains the other)
Yeah. I'm serious.
And no.
Studies like that don't exist.
You can broadly say "most cold medicines are symptomatic". Of course you can.
What you can't do is say those 20000 seperate studies (ranging widely in subject matter, tests, and quality control) have all found roughly the same thing. A lot of the time in studies it's hard enough to replicate someone else's results, so very often exactly the same type of study can actually say 2 (or more) different things. That's one study type. A consensus amongst 20000 completely different studies? Nope. Not a chance fella.
As for sympathetic evidence of cannabis use having medicinal benefit, well here's one study , of bloody hundreds, that HAVE found such evidence.
But tbh I'm leaving this here. Mainly because you appear to be thicker than a whale omelette and it's an absolute waste of my time arguing with someone that has all the intellectual capacity of a hammer.

you are definitely not a scientits. find me a single meta analysis or systematic review that uses exactly the same protocol studies. Ohh wait nothing like that exists since funding would not be granted for repeating the same study.

You say that p<0.05 will give different result each time? id like to see that happening

Im guessing you are one of those ignorants that refuses to read the paper (yes its 400 pages long)


Edited By: mattsokolinski on Mar 06, 2017 20:10
banned#12
Found the ignore button.

Bliss! ;)

To the OP:

Has your father-in-law spoken to his GP?

I know my uncle gets his inhalers as part of clinical trials.

You can actually bypass your GP now and look here if you can find something you think he might qualify to take part in:

http://www.nhs.uk/conditions/clinical-trials/pages/clinical-trial.aspx?Condition=Cannabis
#13
sorry made the typo... 10,000 papers not 20.. still more significant than your cherrypicked individual study aka confirmation bias
#14
Byron78
Found the ignore button.
Bliss! ;)
To the OP:
Has your father-in-law spoken to his GP?
I know my uncle gets his inhalers as part of clinical trials.
You can actually bypass your GP now and look here if you can find something you think he might qualify to take part in:http://www.nhs.uk/conditions/clinical-trials/pages/clinical-trial.aspx?Condition=Cannabis

first you say you not going to let it go then you press ignore? who is thicker than an omelette now?
#15
My friends sister sadly had cancer and pasted away, they researched and tried this and said it did help.

Maybe it's worth researching and deciding whether you wanna try it.

Even if it doesn't work at least you know you've tried and tested it.

I hope you find something that works!
#16
Lots of other comments, so will keep it brief.

The blue oil from CBD brothers works out cheaper than Holland and Barret.

Contact cbd brothers for a sample - then work from there. https://cbdbrothers.com/

Some places send out better samples than the actual ones you buy -- the one above is more verified. Some amazing results, so hope it helps your father in law.
#17
My mother has arthritis maybe this will help with managing the pain
#18
Byron78
mattsokolinski
Byron78
mattsokolinski
Byron78
mattsokolinski
absolutely no medical benefits based on this meta analysis of 20,000 studies related to cannabis https://www.nap.edu/catalog/24625/the-health-effects-of-cannabis-and-cannabinoids-the-current-state
Download as guest using any fake email
any positive effects are due to placebo since all "benefits" are symptomatic and not curative
Erm.
Have you actually read that?
There's absolutely no way you could write off 20000 separate studies like that.
And I very much doubt it does this.
My uncle with MS has recently been trialed with an inhaler derived from cannabis and it's absolutely changed his life.
He's an ex-stockbroker as well so not exactly your stereotypical pot smoking type. Was hugely skeptical at first and thought it was all hippy nonsense.
you clearly have no idea how scientific studies are analysed dont you?
suggest you check what systematic review or meta analysis is
1) I'm a scientist. So yeah, I do.
2) With respect, you don't know the difference between a placebo and symptomatic treatment. So I'm probably arguing with an idiot here.
you cannot be serious. if you are scientist
1. you would know that studies like that exist
2. symptomatic treatment can be proven placebo cannot (since you measure one agains the other)
Yeah. I'm serious.
And no.
Studies like that don't exist.
You can broadly say "most cold medicines are symptomatic". Of course you can.
What you can't do is say those 20000 seperate studies (ranging widely in subject matter, tests, and quality control) have all found roughly the same thing. A lot of the time in studies it's hard enough to replicate someone else's results, so very often exactly the same type of study can actually say 2 (or more) different things. That's one study type. A consensus amongst 20000 completely different studies? Nope. Not a chance fella.
As for sympathetic evidence of cannabis use having medicinal benefit, well here's one study , of bloody hundreds, that HAVE found such evidence.
But tbh I'm leaving this here. Mainly because you appear to be thicker than a whale omelette and it's an absolute waste of my time arguing with someone that has all the intellectual capacity of a hammer.
I've never heard "thicker than a whale omelette" before, I will be using this quite often from now on
#19
A friend of mine has a friend of his that has one of these. Says it helps him sleep.

https://medipen.co/
#20
Real CBD oil is completely legal. It doesn't contain THC which is illegal as it's the psycho active part.
#21
YouDontWantToKnow
I doubt its real cannabis oil.

Its a class A drug or certainly used to be.


P.s. cannabis is a class C drug.
#22
YouDontWantToKnow
I doubt its real cannabis oil.
Its a class A drug or certainly used to be.
Cannabis has never been a class A drug
#23
hc4eva
YouDontWantToKnow
I doubt its real cannabis oil.

Its a class A drug or certainly used to be.

P.s. cannabis is a class C drug.
Actually, it's class B and has been since 2009
#24
t0nii_m
My friends sister sadly had cancer and pasted away, they researched and tried this and said it did help.
Maybe it's worth researching and deciding whether you wanna try it.
Even if it doesn't work at least you know you've tried and tested it.
I hope you find something that works!
what if it interacts with chemotherapy making it less effective?
what if someone listens to some potheads and loons and forgoes treatment that could and often does help and then dies? (look at Steve Jobs and his choice to go with all naturel)

funny enough those that smoke weed will always support legalisation regardless of evidence or lack thereof for it's "miracle" claims... I wonder why

And I'm guessing this comment will be downvoted by pot supportes simply because truth hurts
#25
mattsokolinski
t0nii_m
My friends sister sadly had cancer and pasted away, they researched and tried this and said it did help.
Maybe it's worth researching and deciding whether you wanna try it.
Even if it doesn't work at least you know you've tried and tested it.
I hope you find something that works!
what if it interacts with chemotherapy making it less effective?
what if someone listens to some potheads and loons and forgoes treatment that could and often does help and then dies? (look at Steve Jobs and his choice to go with all naturel)
funny enough those that smoke weed will always support legalisation regardless of evidence or lack thereof for it's "miracle" claims... I wonder why
And I'm guessing this comment will be downvoted by pot supportes simply because truth hurts
No this will be downvoted by people that believe what you say is hypocritical. The same can be said for those against cannabis and their "supporting" evidence. Government funded studies VS private studies.... hmmm, bias anywhere there?? Nobody has ever died as a result of a cannabis overdose, FACT! People on cannabis don't go out fighting or stealing. There's more evidence to support cannabis being beneficial to people than there is to suggest it does harm. The mental health side of cannabis comes from THC, but scientists have proven that a higher dose of CBD can have the opposite effect. Until you educate yourself and stop being so closed minded I don't think you should attack other peoples beliefs. I believe alcohol is a burden on society. We CLEARLY see the damage alcohol does not only the body, but society and communities but we do nothing about it, why?? Because the government makes too much money from alcohol... and this is because alcohol is harder to make than cannabis. Alcohol offers no benefits. But I don't go attacking people looking for advise, for someone who is unwell!!!

There are loads of by-products from the production of cannabis that can benefit humanity in a variety of ways, including not chopping down entire forests.

Your what if's have no place here I'm afraid. It's clear you're against cannabis. If something is made legal it doesn't mean people have to start doing it so it wouldn't hinder the country or the government, in fact, it'd save them money!!!

Recent studies also suggest that somewhere around 70% of police constables feel it should be legalised.

Edited By: xfaxfa on Mar 11, 2017 12:42
#26
getmeone
A friend of mine has a friend of his that has one of these. Says it helps him sleep.

https://medipen.co/


I was just going to post this. :{
#27
xfaxfa
mattsokolinski
t0nii_m
My friends sister sadly had cancer and pasted away, they researched and tried this and said it did help.
Maybe it's worth researching and deciding whether you wanna try it.
Even if it doesn't work at least you know you've tried and tested it.
I hope you find something that works!
what if it interacts with chemotherapy making it less effective?
what if someone listens to some potheads and loons and forgoes treatment that could and often does help and then dies? (look at Steve Jobs and his choice to go with all naturel)
funny enough those that smoke weed will always support legalisation regardless of evidence or lack thereof for it's "miracle" claims... I wonder why
And I'm guessing this comment will be downvoted by pot supportes simply because truth hurts
No this will be downvoted by people that believe what you say is hypocritical. The same can be said for those against cannabis and their "supporting" evidence. Government funded studies VS private studies.... hmmm, bias anywhere there?? Nobody has ever died as a result of a cannabis overdose, FACT! People on cannabis don't go out fighting or stealing. There's more evidence to support cannabis being beneficial to people than there is to suggest it does harm. The mental health side of cannabis comes from THC, but scientists have proven that a higher dose of CBD can have the opposite effect. Until you educate yourself and stop being so closed minded I don't think you should attack other peoples beliefs. I believe alcohol is a burden on society. We CLEARLY see the damage alcohol does not only the body, but society and communities but we do nothing about it, why?? Because the government makes too much money from alcohol... and this is because alcohol is harder to make than cannabis. Alcohol offers no benefits. But I don't go attacking people looking for advise, for someone who is unwell!!!
There are loads of by-products from the production of cannabis that can benefit humanity in a variety of ways, including not chopping down entire forests.
Your what if's have no place here I'm afraid. It's clear you're against cannabis. If something is made legal it doesn't mean people have to start doing it so it wouldn't hinder the country or the government, in fact, it'd save them money!!!
Recent studies also suggest that somewhere around 70% of police constables feel it should be legalised.

Government paid studies? so you say that every single study included in the systematic review ive posted is government funded? it includes all the available research on the subjects so you tell me what happened to the independent ones?
Do you seriously think that if weed was better and cheaper than conventional medicine institutions like NHS would hold it off? yes because that makes sense
nobody died of cannabis, fact? I suggest you check recent ONS results and how many people had cannabis on their death certificate.

until I educate myself....hmm lets see.... ohh wait there is that study that includes ALL the available research
https://www.nap.edu/catalog/24625/the-health-effects-of-cannabis-and-cannabinoids-the-current-state
how could I miss that and not educate myself. how could I possibly make my conclusions based on best available evidence. it's outrageous

nooo alcohol is not a burden to society https://www.drinkaware.co.uk/research/our-research-and-evaluation-reports/alcohol-related-hospital-admissions-up-by-a-third/
not at all
what do you think government will do with legal weed? just let it off without taxing? how do you think they will manage back garden production?


Im not against cannabis. When there will be enough compeling evidence to support its benefits I wont have anything agains it. I'm against potheads that want to have an excuse to use it for "medical reasons"

Edited By: mattsokolinski on Mar 11, 2017 15:18
#28
I bought this two weeks ago. I can honestly say, that I didn't feel any benefits but perhaps I was expecting a big difference.
It tastes really awful too but you can get past that. I bought it on the buy one get one half price . A bottle is supposed to last a month but it so gloopy that you end up wasting some as others mentioned on the reviews..(Holland and Barrett) Due to it clinging to the inside of the bottle.
#29
mattsokolinski
t0nii_m
My friends sister sadly had cancer and pasted away, they researched and tried this and said it did help.
Maybe it's worth researching and deciding whether you wanna try it.
Even if it doesn't work at least you know you've tried and tested it.
I hope you find something that works!
what if it interacts with chemotherapy making it less effective?
what if someone listens to some potheads and loons and forgoes treatment that could and often does help and then dies? (look at Steve Jobs and his choice to go with all naturel)
funny enough those that smoke weed will always support legalisation regardless of evidence or lack thereof for it's "miracle" claims... I wonder why
And I'm guessing this comment will be downvoted by pot supportes simply because truth hurts


Wow! I don't smoke pot or in any way want to legalise it. There's other methods of medicine out there that are working. There's plenty of life saving medicines available in other countries that we don't offer here in the U.K, even when it can be cost effective. Not all people believe it when they are told by doctors to give up, because with a little research they'll find there's other options or things to try. My friends sister was terminal so only given pain relief, and like I said her family say they believe it slowed the growth of her tumours.
#30
t0nii_m
mattsokolinski
t0nii_m
My friends sister sadly had cancer and pasted away, they researched and tried this and said it did help.
Maybe it's worth researching and deciding whether you wanna try it.
Even if it doesn't work at least you know you've tried and tested it.
I hope you find something that works!
what if it interacts with chemotherapy making it less effective?
what if someone listens to some potheads and loons and forgoes treatment that could and often does help and then dies? (look at Steve Jobs and his choice to go with all naturel)
funny enough those that smoke weed will always support legalisation regardless of evidence or lack thereof for it's "miracle" claims... I wonder why
And I'm guessing this comment will be downvoted by pot supportes simply because truth hurts
Wow! I don't smoke pot or in any way want to legalise it. There's other methods of medicine out there that are working. There's plenty of life saving medicines available in other countries that we don't offer here in the U.K, even when it can be cost effective. Not all people believe it when they are told by doctors to give up, because with a little research they'll find there's other options or things to try. My friends sister was terminal so only given pain relief, and like I said her family say they believe it slowed the growth of her tumours.
belief is worse than placebo.
imagine if you were in a court of law and the judge would say to you that he believes you are guilty without any solid evidence
What would your friend say if his sister died sooner than expected, who or what would they blame? correlation is not causation.
also how is it even possible that one plant can cure around 100 different cancers when variety of drugs (some which are made of different plants) are only effective in one or two types? And its funny that those that smoke pot have higher occurrence of cancer.

but hey lets believe, you pray to a god Ill pray to my cat and see who will get their prayers answered

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