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Hi guys, I haven't had much luck with cars over the last few years! :( This morning my Corsa passed its MOT but with the following advisories: - Sub-frame corroded but not seriously weakened fro… Read More
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8m, 1w agoPosted 8 months, 1 week ago
Hi guys,

I haven't had much luck with cars over the last few years! :( This morning my Corsa passed its MOT but with the following advisories:

- Sub-frame corroded but not seriously weakened front

- Exhaust System Deteriorated

- Tyre Worn close to nearside rear

- Tyre Worn close to offside rear

- Shock absorber has a light misting of oil nearside

- Shock absorber has slight corrosion to the casing rear (both sides)

- Suspension arm rubber bush deteriorated but not resulting in excessive movement front (both sides)

- Coil spring corroded nearside front

I bought the car 12 months ago for £3,000:

Brand: Vauxhall

Model: Corsa

Year: 2007

Engine: 1.4L

Does anyone know how much these repairs will be? At the moment all I know is that I can get part-worn tyres for £20 each

If the repairs are going to be really expensive I am thinking of selling the car

Thanks for your help,

Anthony
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8m, 1w agoPosted 8 months, 1 week ago
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lollypoplee
has it had REGULAR oil changes ? 53k is ok if its been looked after and serviced every year.
does the engine STILL rattle after its been running for a while.
they all sound noisy when you first start then but should quiten down after 5 minutes as long as the oil is getting through properly?
the subframe isnt a big or really expensive job if it did come to swapping it as a decent mechanic would find a second hand one for you.
but i wouldn't worry about the subframe honesty, if it was anywhere near the "needs replacing" stage , the mot center would have failed it.
i bet you have another 2 years left on it yet

According to the service book, it has had regular oil changes (I have only owned the car for 12 months though, had it serviced myself last week)

I haven't heard the engine rattle but will listen out for it when I drive it next.

Ok, do you think the subframe can get significantly worse before the next MOT? (Nov-2017) I am probably going to add another 6k miles within the next 12 months

Really appreciate your advice,
thanks

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#1
I've used 'who can fix my car' before. Put on what needs work etc and garages local to you will give you a quote. Could take an hour to a week for them to get back to you but usually at least 4-5 do
#2
ignoring the subframe as its just obviously top rust, a pair of used tyres £50, a pair or shockers £70 , a coil spring £25 and s bottom arm to sort the bush out £35 so £180 plus labour.
labour would be about 2 hours so approx £100.
£280 .
#3
lollypoplee
ignoring the subframe as its just obviously top rust, a pair of used tyres £50, a pair or shockers £70 , a coil spring £25 and s bottom arm to sort the bush out £35 so £180 plus labour.
labour would be about 2 hours so approx £100.
£280 .

Thanks for your reply, by top rust do you mean the sub-frame doesn't need replacing ?


Edited By: ant1g on Nov 14, 2016 09:31
#4
pookynuts
I've used 'who can fix my car' before. Put on what needs work etc and garages local to you will give you a quote. Could take an hour to a week for them to get back to you but usually at least 4-5 do
Thanks for the suggestion, I will take a look at this site
#5
ant1g
lollypoplee
ignoring the subframe as its just obviously top rust, a pair of used tyres £50, a pair or shockers £70 , a coil spring £25 and s bottom arm to sort the bush out £35 so £180 plus labour.
labour would be about 2 hours so approx £100.
£280 .

Thanks for your reply, by top rust do you mean the sub-frame doesn't need replacing ?



yes, if it was bad then the mot center would have failed it ? they give an advisory just to let you know they have seen the rust ? 100% doesn't need replacing if its just an advisory
#6
lollypoplee
ant1g
lollypoplee
ignoring the subframe as its just obviously top rust, a pair of used tyres £50, a pair or shockers £70 , a coil spring £25 and s bottom arm to sort the bush out £35 so £180 plus labour.
labour would be about 2 hours so approx £100.
£280 .
Thanks for your reply, by top rust do you mean the sub-frame doesn't need replacing ?
yes, if it was bad then the mot center would have failed it ? they give an advisory just to let you know they have seen the rust ? 100% doesn't need replacing if its just an advisory

ah I didn't know that, thanks! Does this mean that the sub-frame will need to be replaced in the near future though?
#7
its a 2007 corsa. no disrespect but i imagine the milage is quite high, when i say high i mean 70k+.
the engines in corsas are pretty useless after 60k.
so depending on the milage , the engine will probably need replacing before the subframe lol
#8
lollypoplee
its a 2007 corsa. no disrespect but i imagine the milage is quite high, when i say high i mean 70k+.
the engines in corsas are pretty useless after 60k.
so depending on the milage , the engine will probably need replacing before the subframe lol

Mileage is 53k.. what do you think I should do? Sell or keep?
#9
has it had REGULAR oil changes ? 53k is ok if its been looked after and serviced every year.
does the engine STILL rattle after its been running for a while.
they all sound noisy when you first start then but should quiten down after 5 minutes as long as the oil is getting through properly?
the subframe isnt a big or really expensive job if it did come to swapping it as a decent mechanic would find a second hand one for you.
but i wouldn't worry about the subframe honesty, if it was anywhere near the "needs replacing" stage , the mot center would have failed it.
i bet you have another 2 years left on it yet
#10
lollypoplee
has it had REGULAR oil changes ? 53k is ok if its been looked after and serviced every year.
does the engine STILL rattle after its been running for a while.
they all sound noisy when you first start then but should quiten down after 5 minutes as long as the oil is getting through properly?
the subframe isnt a big or really expensive job if it did come to swapping it as a decent mechanic would find a second hand one for you.
but i wouldn't worry about the subframe honesty, if it was anywhere near the "needs replacing" stage , the mot center would have failed it.
i bet you have another 2 years left on it yet

According to the service book, it has had regular oil changes (I have only owned the car for 12 months though, had it serviced myself last week)

I haven't heard the engine rattle but will listen out for it when I drive it next.

Ok, do you think the subframe can get significantly worse before the next MOT? (Nov-2017) I am probably going to add another 6k miles within the next 12 months

Really appreciate your advice,
thanks
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#12
bruntz1972
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The beauty of owning a car.. I should probably use a train instead
#13
no honestly, it will be fine. im not an mot tester myself but a very close friend of mine is, and ive spent hundreds of hours at his station (drinking tea lol) and seen hundreds of cars tested.
i was a mechanic myself for 8 years and my brother is still a mechanic and has bern for 20+ years.
i currently own a 2012 1.2 corsa and before that owned a 2008 1.2.
ive owned vauxhalls for the last 18 years.
the subframe probably wouldn't have even been mentioned at a different mot center ?
some people are VERY picky and will note down everything !!!
if it were mine i wouldn't worry about it.
lets put it this way ...
when you took your driving test, did you pass without any minor faults ??? i imagine you got at least 1 ?
that doesn't mean you cant drive, it just means on that test you slightly did something not 100%, but you still passed.
the examiner pointed this out to you and gave you a pass !
same with you corsa, honestly the subframe must be fine or it would have failed.
get the other bits done tho, especially the tyres.
the rest of the advisories do need doing but as their advisories i wouldn't be in too much of a rush !
they cannot be that bad, just like the subframe, they would have failed if they were.
if it were me i would get new tyres (decent ones and not cheap rubbish) and do the rest after Christmas
banned#14
to be honest with you my lad has a corsa 1.2 56 plate the first of the newer shape it's done 56000 miles and in the 11 months we have owned it and the 2000 miles it's done since owning it all I can say it's had the following parts,two new CV joints,1 heater thermal fuse common fault,1 new heater wiring plug again common.oh and now abs light on.i do know that it is important to change oil and filter every 5000 miles as what happens is the oil if left in to long makes the paper oil filter deteriorate and the this blocks oil feed to cam chain tensioner and chain will start to rattle as it stretches because lack of lube then snap's.so if your corsa rattles when hot get rid.
#15
dont be too alarmed. it would seem the tester is just covering his back with those advisories. especially if its a new tester or they may be using it as scare tactic to get some work out of you. if you look at most cars of that age they will have surface rust on anything steel. just get the tyres sorted and take the rest in your stride.
maybe as ya friends see if they know any good garages for a 2nd opinion to put your mind at ease
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bruntz1972
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arrrr.... thats a bit harsh lol.
i just read that out to my corsa and there are tears running from the headlights !
#17
BobIzYaUncle
dont be too alarmed. it would seem the tester is just covering his back with those advisories. especially if its a new tester or they may be using it as scare tactic to get some work out of you. if you look at most cars of that age they will have surface rust on anything steel. just get the tyres sorted and take the rest in your stride.
maybe as ya friends see if they know any good garages for a 2nd opinion to put your mind at ease


i couldn't agree more mate
#18
lollypoplee
no honestly, it will be fine. im not an mot tester myself but a very close friend of mine is, and ive spent hundreds of hours at his station (drinking tea lol) and seen hundreds of cars tested.
i was a mechanic myself for 8 years and my brother is still a mechanic and has bern for 20+ years.
i currently own a 2012 1.2 corsa and before that owned a 2008 1.2.
ive owned vauxhalls for the last 18 years.
the subframe probably wouldn't have even been mentioned at a different mot center ?
some people are VERY picky and will note down everything !!!
if it were mine i wouldn't worry about it.
lets put it this way ...
when you took your driving test, did you pass without any minor faults ??? i imagine you got at least 1 ?
that doesn't mean you cant drive, it just means on that test you slightly did something not 100%, but you still passed.
the examiner pointed this out to you and gave you a pass !
same with you corsa, honestly the subframe must be fine or it would have failed.
get the other bits done tho, especially the tyres.
the rest of the advisories do need doing but as their advisories i wouldn't be in too much of a rush !
they cannot be that bad, just like the subframe, they would have failed if they were.
if it were me i would get new tyres (decent ones and not cheap rubbish) and do the rest after Christmas

Thanks, I feel much better about the situation now - I see your point, its just their judgement about the car

Cheers again, you have really helped me out this morning
#19
lollypoplee
BobIzYaUncle
dont be too alarmed. it would seem the tester is just covering his back with those advisories. especially if its a new tester or they may be using it as scare tactic to get some work out of you. if you look at most cars of that age they will have surface rust on anything steel. just get the tyres sorted and take the rest in your stride.
maybe as ya friends see if they know any good garages for a 2nd opinion to put your mind at ease

i couldn't agree more mate

Thanks, appreciate the advice
#20
bruntz1972
to be honest with you my lad has a corsa 1.2 56 plate the first of the newer shape it's done 56000 miles and in the 11 months we have owned it and the 2000 miles it's done since owning it all I can say it's had the following parts,two new CV joints,1 heater thermal fuse common fault,1 new heater wiring plug again common.oh and now abs light on.i do know that it is important to change oil and filter every 5000 miles as what happens is the oil if left in to long makes the paper oil filter deteriorate and the this blocks oil feed to cam chain tensioner and chain will start to rattle as it stretches because lack of lube then snap's.so if your corsa rattles when hot get rid.

I will stick with it and see how it goes.. fingers crossed I will make it to 56k miles! Thanks
#21
If you're looking at part worn tyres, you aren't going to like the cost of the repairs. Sub frame will need replaced soon according to the tester. Add on the fact your struts are on their way out & so is your exhaust, you're going to be looking at quite a lot of money. Replacing the struts alone entail replacing other bits & bobs that can be costly. You are in to hundreds of pounds of repairs there if not £1k+.

Edited By: DEALS4EVA on Nov 14, 2016 10:27
#22
DEALS4EVA
If you're looking at part worn tyres, you aren't going to like the cost of the repairs. Sub frame will need replaced soon according to the tester. Add on the fact your struts are on their way out & so is your exhaust, you're going to be looking at quite a lot of money. Replacing the struts alone entail replacing other bits & bobs that can be costly. You are in to hundreds of pounds of repairs there if not £1k+.


no disrespect..... but thats a load of hmmm....
£1k+ jesus.
do you work for Harrods.
i could swap the struts, subframe, tyres, spring and bottom arm, fill it with fuel, clean it, service it and buy the family a mcdonalds for half that.
#23
lollypoplee
its a 2007 corsa. no disrespect but i imagine the milage is quite high, when i say high i mean 70k+.
the engines in corsas are pretty useless after 60k.
so depending on the milage , the engine will probably need replacing before the subframe lol

nonsense, I had one on 130k and it run perfectly fine for the 2 years I had it before it got wrote off.
#24
lollypoplee
DEALS4EVA
If you're looking at part worn tyres, you aren't going to like the cost of the repairs. Sub frame will need replaced soon according to the tester. Add on the fact your struts are on their way out & so is your exhaust, you're going to be looking at quite a lot of money. Replacing the struts alone entail replacing other bits & bobs that can be costly. You are in to hundreds of pounds of repairs there if not £1k+.
no disrespect..... but thats a load of hmmm....
£1k+ jesus.
do you work for Harrods.
i could swap the struts, subframe, tyres, spring and bottom arm, fill it with fuel, clean it, service it and buy the family a mcdonalds for half that.

Interesting. I recently replaced a cracked spring in the front of my clio. Spring roughly £25, cheap enough right? Add in a top mount, drop link & labour and I was into almost £200. I must come to you for my work in future.
#25
Well its a typical MOT " warning ". Looks like things are beginning to go wrong, just take this as notification that you could potentially be getting some bills for on going repairs in the not to distant future. Unless you are prepared to deal with them then you may want to consider a change of car.
#26
DEALS4EVA
lollypoplee
DEALS4EVA
If you're looking at part worn tyres, you aren't going to like the cost of the repairs. Sub frame will need replaced soon according to the tester. Add on the fact your struts are on their way out & so is your exhaust, you're going to be looking at quite a lot of money. Replacing the struts alone entail replacing other bits & bobs that can be costly. You are in to hundreds of pounds of repairs there if not £1k+.
no disrespect..... but thats a load of hmmm....
£1k+ jesus.
do you work for Harrods.
i could swap the struts, subframe, tyres, spring and bottom arm, fill it with fuel, clean it, service it and buy the family a mcdonalds for half that.

Interesting. I recently replaced a cracked spring in the front of my clio. Spring roughly £25, cheap enough right? Add in a top mount, drop link & labour and I was into almost £200. I must come to you for my work in future.


spring £25.
bottom arm : £35 depending on make
drop link £10
£70.
Labour would be £80
total £150

i think your being overcharged mate ;)
#27
lollypoplee
DEALS4EVA
lollypoplee
DEALS4EVA
If you're looking at part worn tyres, you aren't going to like the cost of the repairs. Sub frame will need replaced soon according to the tester. Add on the fact your struts are on their way out & so is your exhaust, you're going to be looking at quite a lot of money. Replacing the struts alone entail replacing other bits & bobs that can be costly. You are in to hundreds of pounds of repairs there if not £1k+.
no disrespect..... but thats a load of hmmm....
£1k+ jesus.
do you work for Harrods.
i could swap the struts, subframe, tyres, spring and bottom arm, fill it with fuel, clean it, service it and buy the family a mcdonalds for half that.

Interesting. I recently replaced a cracked spring in the front of my clio. Spring roughly £25, cheap enough right? Add in a top mount, drop link & labour and I was into almost £200. I must come to you for my work in future.


spring £25.
bottom arm : £35 depending on make
drop link £10
£70.
Labour would be £80
total £150

i think your being overcharged mate ;)


To be fair, thee isn't much of a difference between £150 and 'almost £200'. Maybe geographic area can explain that
#28
eset12345
lollypoplee
its a 2007 corsa. no disrespect but i imagine the milage is quite high, when i say high i mean 70k+.
the engines in corsas are pretty useless after 60k.
so depending on the milage , the engine will probably need replacing before the subframe lol

nonsense, I had one on 130k and it run perfectly fine for the 2 years I had it before it got wrote off.


you had a 1.2 or 1.4 and it covered 130k ?
seriously you did well. if it didn't get written off it should have been in a museum lol
#29
Tester sounds like a clown advising springs being rusty he must be usin a lot of printer ink

Prices your being given here are ridiculoud tho 280 for having all that done no chance lucky if that would cover the labour
#30
lollypoplee
DEALS4EVA
lollypoplee
DEALS4EVA
If you're looking at part worn tyres, you aren't going to like the cost of the repairs. Sub frame will need replaced soon according to the tester. Add on the fact your struts are on their way out & so is your exhaust, you're going to be looking at quite a lot of money. Replacing the struts alone entail replacing other bits & bobs that can be costly. You are in to hundreds of pounds of repairs there if not £1k+.
no disrespect..... but thats a load of hmmm....
£1k+ jesus.
do you work for Harrods.
i could swap the struts, subframe, tyres, spring and bottom arm, fill it with fuel, clean it, service it and buy the family a mcdonalds for half that.
Interesting. I recently replaced a cracked spring in the front of my clio. Spring roughly £25, cheap enough right? Add in a top mount, drop link & labour and I was into almost £200. I must come to you for my work in future.
spring £25.
bottom arm : £35 depending on make
drop link £10
£70.
Labour would be £80
total £150
i think your being overcharged mate ;)

£10 drop link lol, that will last a long time.My genuine top mount was £90 alone. Fair enough if you're getting rid, I do about 20k a year so I don't tend to put junk on my own motor that I plan on driving into the ground.

£20 tyres, £10 drop links false economy imho. Bodge it though the test & sell no problem, but not for a car your planning on keeping. Scrap. Ive put scrap on cars ive owned before and that exactly what is is, scrap.

Subframe & fitting, what do you reckon that would cost then?




Edited By: DEALS4EVA on Nov 14, 2016 11:46
#31
123batman321
Tester sounds like a clown advising springs being rusty he must be usin a lot of printer ink

Prices your being given here are ridiculoud tho 280 for having all that done no chance lucky if that would cover the labour


my prices are true prices charged at my brothers garage, who has been in business for 20+ years ?
he owns his own home and believe me hes not short for a bob or two so hes doing something right !
my first post/price included prices for part warn tyres .
a good mechanic charges by the minute and does not round up a 10 minute job to the nearest hour ?
the shocker, bottom arm and spring are all 1 job as 1 has to be removed to repair the other so its a simple fast job.
going to a branded garage like #wik#fit or For#=%! one would double my price quote but im not quoting them, im quoting a smaller garage with less overheads
#32
DEALS4EVA
lollypoplee
DEALS4EVA
lollypoplee
DEALS4EVA
If you're looking at part worn tyres, you aren't going to like the cost of the repairs. Sub frame will need replaced soon according to the tester. Add on the fact your struts are on their way out & so is your exhaust, you're going to be looking at quite a lot of money. Replacing the struts alone entail replacing other bits & bobs that can be costly. You are in to hundreds of pounds of repairs there if not £1k+.
no disrespect..... but thats a load of hmmm....
£1k+ jesus.
do you work for Harrods.
i could swap the struts, subframe, tyres, spring and bottom arm, fill it with fuel, clean it, service it and buy the family a mcdonalds for half that.
Interesting. I recently replaced a cracked spring in the front of my clio. Spring roughly £25, cheap enough right? Add in a top mount, drop link & labour and I was into almost £200. I must come to you for my work in future.
spring £25.
bottom arm : £35 depending on make
drop link £10
£70.
Labour would be £80
total £150
i think your being overcharged mate ;)

£10 drop link lol, that will last a long time.My genuine top mount was £90 alone. Fair enough if you're getting rid, I do about 20k a year so I don't tend to put junk on my own motor that I plan on driving into the ground.

£20 tyres, £10 drop links false economy imho. Bodge it though the test & sell no problem, but not for a car your planning on keeping. Scrap.

Subframe & fitting, what do you reckon that would cost then?




2nd had decent low mileage subframe around £100.
fitting around the same as once the engine and box are supported its just a few bolts.
so £200 would sort it all in
#33
ebay item number 142175093874
£70 looks almost new so yes £200 all in would sort it
#34
If the subframe concerns you then treat the rust and apply some enamel paint and it'll be almost as good as new, If it was structurally weakened it would have failed 100%.

On my cars previous mot's a few years ago there were advisories on the subframe and then the following 2 years no advisories on the subframe, I think it's discretionary and nothing to worry about but would probably be worth treating before the rust does weaken the structure.

Sounds like the whole suspension requires replacing, whilst it sounds expensive you can probably get an whole suspension for £100 or less on ebay, then exhaust system about £100.

About 3 hours labour @ £70

So probably £350-£400 should be a reasonable target and worth doing imo.

If anyone quotes more than £500 tell them to do one.!.
#35
shauneco
If the subframe concerns you then treat the rust and apply some enamel paint and it'll be almost as good as new, If it was structurally weakened it would have failed 100%.

On my cars previous mot's a few years ago there were advisories on the subframe and then the following 2 years no advisories on the subframe, I think it's discretionary and nothing to worry about but would probably be worth treating before the rust does weaken the structure.

Sounds like the whole suspension requires replacing, whilst it sounds expensive you can probably get an whole suspension for £100 or less on ebay, then exhaust system about £100.

About 3 hours labour @ £70

So probably £350-£400 should be a reasonable target and worth doing imo.

If anyone quotes more than £500 tell them to do one.!.



another person finally talking sence mate.
theres some strange prices being quoted on here today !
i totally agree with you tho, as i said earlier, a different garage probably wouldn't have even given an advisory on the subframe
#36
lollypoplee
its a 2007 corsa. no disrespect but i imagine the milage is quite high, when i say high i mean 70k+.
the engines in corsas are pretty useless after 60k.
so depending on the milage , the engine will probably need replacing before the subframe lol

Don't be a clown, A Corsa engine should do twice that without too much of a problem providing some care has been taken, I've seen them with 130k on and they've been fine.
#37
did i not say "BUY NEW DECENT QUALITY TYRES"
I think i did ?
read all my posts and i said, leave the rest until after Christmas but buy some decent quality tyres not cheap rubbish !
#38
shauneco
lollypoplee
its a 2007 corsa. no disrespect but i imagine the milage is quite high, when i say high i mean 70k+.
the engines in corsas are pretty useless after 60k.
so depending on the milage , the engine will probably need replacing before the subframe lol

Don't be a clown, A Corsa engine should do twice that without too much of a problem providing some care has been taken, I've seen them with 130k on and they've been fine.


really !!! you might have seen 1 or 2 or even 10, but have a look to see how many off these 1.2 or 1.4 engines are ready for the scrap heap after 60k miles even with regards services.
my brother did i timing chain and failed oil pump on a 2010 1.2 the other day with FULL vauxhall service history.
the ratio between good 1.2/1.4 and failed ones wouldn't reach 5%
#39
so £120 for tyres, you can do the rest of that and buy a mcdonalds, clean service and valet it for £380 lol are you doing the work yourself
#40
lollypoplee
shauneco
lollypoplee
its a 2007 corsa. no disrespect but i imagine the milage is quite high, when i say high i mean 70k+.
the engines in corsas are pretty useless after 60k.
so depending on the milage , the engine will probably need replacing before the subframe lol
Don't be a clown, A Corsa engine should do twice that without too much of a problem providing some care has been taken, I've seen them with 130k on and they've been fine.
really !!! you might have seen 1 or 2 or even 10, but have a look to see how many off these 1.2 or 1.4 engines are ready for the scrap heap after 60k miles even with regards services.
my brother did i timing chain and failed oil pump on a 2010 1.2 the other day with FULL vauxhall service history.
the ratio between good 1.2/1.4 and failed ones wouldn't reach 5%

60k is nothing for a modern petrol engine, even 3 pot engines usually manage 100k with little issue.

A failed oil pump isn't a failed engine is it unless the failed oil pump resulted in the engine seizing as is unfortunate.

A friend of mine had a 1.4 petrol Golf and the oil pump failed, luckily it gave him a warning light so it went straight to the dealers. It can happen on any car.

I'm not a fan on Vauxhall engines if I'm honest, they burn too much oil and the smaller engines were prone for headgasket failure but 60k is nothing for one of those.

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