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2y, 2m agoPosted 2 years, 2 months ago
Hi guys

I got a Lumix LZ20 at the moment but we are going to Mexico and on a Safari and wanting some advice on what camera to upgrade to from my bridge. Id like something that captures everything in stunning detail with a widescreen lens.

ALso i take some sporting pictures sometimes and want it to zoom in quite alot without losing quality...Im not really clued up on photography to be honest as you can prob tell!

Any advice gratefully received
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2y, 2m agoPosted 2 years, 2 months ago
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#1
You may benefit from a compact, high quality super zoom camera, learning how to use a DSLR over a couple of weeks is not going to be easy, and the best results usually come from the manual modes, which means you need to know what you are doing.

Any Canon/Nikon DSLR and a telephoto lens would do the trick, but a good lens for safari work starts at around £400. Where a high quality compact will give you a very good picture right out of the camera.
banned#2
you want a bridge camera with a 40x-50x lens which can do automatic sweep panoramic shots
#3
The Mexican holiday isnt until APril next year and the Safari is our honeymoon the year after so plenty of time to learn :)

The bridge ive got its pretty decent but when you get the zoom on full it can be abit hard to get a half decent shot.
#4
Amongst many other things dslra will take a photos the millisecond you press the shutter on the right setting, thus helping you capture the moment.
you can still use auto untill you get confident on all the other modes.
read exposure triangle
need to know your budget before we can recommend a camera though
#5
Get this book and read it a few times, really helped me to understand how to start using my 700d properly after buying it understanding exposure
#6
First you would have to decide either Nikon or Canon. I went with Nikon, as they were at the time a bit cheaper and I family member had a bad experince with Canon warrenty service. Don't just look at the prices for bodies, but the lenses as well. It will be these you'll be getting later down the line. Sigma also make good lenses for both Canon and Nikon fit. I can recomend the Sigma 70-500mm for the safari. second hand, they're about £400ish.

When I first started, I did an evening course at my local college. It helped a lot and I had someone to ask any questions. The 6 week vourse was about £60. Courses will start in September time, so it might be worth getting a perspectus from your local college now. Reading books is one thing, but then putting into practice is another and you would always have questions.

Also I joined a photography forum and there could be a local meeting near you where like minded people get together for a day out. Usually good fun and you can share tips. Some people also share equipment if you're thinking of getting something. I use http://www.talkphotography.co.uk Good luck.
#7
Sorry I meant Sigma 150-500mm lense. If you go Nikon, they do a nice 70-300mm VR lense. If you go second hand, could sell on after your safari trip and get your money back.
#8
They do a 150-500 as well and a 120-400.
personally id buy the best i can afford.
i made the mistake of going
bridge
d5100
d7000

bridge got me loving photography
5100 no auto focus and too few easy access buttons
7000 love it.....
does everything i need.
but i prob spent more money buying and selling to get to what i needed.

so buy the best you can afford and two lenses,
say a 35mm prime
and a good telephoto.
#9
FZ200
#10
One thing to remember is with safari you're likely to be in low-light situations for the morning and evening drives, which means you're gonna need image stabilisation (vr) on the lens or body - even with crazy iso levels now you'll still benefit from vr - at 300mm on a cropped sensor (unless you're full frame) = ~500mm and I struggled *breathing* to hold this thing steady in afternoon light - simple things like the jeep rocking, people moving in it, engine turnover and heartbeat and breathing need to be overcome at 500mm - don't go without it! At 'sundowner' time (drinks as the sun just drops from the sky and you can see it getting darker by the second, I'm not kidding it's spooky) you'll have about 10 minutes to go from 'oh look, there's a rhino' to 'I can't see anything' - dark animals in low light far away = impossible without vr.

For my safari I wish I'd taken *two* cameras - 70-300vr and a wider 18-70 non-vr on my nikon. You simply don't have time to swap lenses all the time. You don't need anything special for the wider body, a used D80 would be fine. I took these two lenses on a D80 and did fine, but damn I wanted them on separate bodies. Unless you're going to use the kit much afterwards I'd go for used and sell it after. It's simply too expensive to drop £1k on gear you'll never use again (I sold my 70-300vr the week I got home but bought new :/). If I went today I'd take the same gear but on better body. Memory-card wise I'd go for something like several 16gb cards - dirt cheap but you've not lost everything if one dies. I took 12gb (3x4gb) and was deleting on the go on the last day!
#11
A good feature of the d7000 is you can set the second card to be a backup.
so i have two 32gb cards. One for raws and the other for backups.
bloom in unlucky if they both die
#13
I took the canon 550d as my first SLR and it was a great little bit of kit. Didn't read much into settings or what did what. Just did what I could in manual without touching any other settings.

Learning aperture, shutter iso etc by practise and it's done me well.

Read small amount of detail and got some really nice shots from practise. Nothing over the top, or on an expert level but stuff to be proud off kind of thing.

Now I've upgraded to a Canon 70d, bit of a gimmick with a few features, could've gotten a 6D for the same cost. But the new camera is just amazing, everything is just quicker and easier to switch through settings.
#14
https://scontent-b-lhr.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpa1/t31.0-8/858515_10152569139640497_57633366_o.jpg

https://scontent-b-lhr.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpa1/t31.0-8/858109_10152569149630497_1295235089_o.jpg

If you got a good eye on what you want, patience on learning something new. Don't let people worry you with 'SLR is hard.'
It may be difficult for a perfect standard, but if you wing it, you'll end up picking up the shots like I've managed to get. (Above two are taken by me of course).
banned#15
kos1c
https://scontent-b-lhr.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpa1/t31.0-8/858515_10152569139640497_57633366_o.jpg

https://scontent-b-lhr.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpa1/t31.0-8/858109_10152569149630497_1295235089_o.jpg

If you got a good eye on what you want, patience on learning something new. Don't let people worry you with 'SLR is hard.'
It may be difficult for a perfect standard, but if you wing it, you'll end up picking up the shots like I've managed to get. (Above two are taken by me of course).

in the first shot it might of been better to get the bird rather than the branch in focus and in the second its never good to cut off the top of your subject
#16
whatsThePoint
kos1c
https://scontent-b-lhr.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpa1/t31.0-8/858515_10152569139640497_57633366_o.jpg

https://scontent-b-lhr.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpa1/t31.0-8/858109_10152569149630497_1295235089_o.jpg

If you got a good eye on what you want, patience on learning something new. Don't let people worry you with 'SLR is hard.'
It may be difficult for a perfect standard, but if you wing it, you'll end up picking up the shots like I've managed to get. (Above two are taken by me of course).

in the first shot it might of been better to get the bird rather than the branch in focus and in the second its never good to cut off the top of your subject

Yeah I agree it's a shame the bird wasn't in focus. Was hard to tell at the time. But I still like this piece as one of my favourites shots I've taken, this was taken a few months after getting my slr.

I didn't post it to brag or say it's of a professional level. But if it's easy to get a decent piece that isn't an eye swore with little knowledge on slr, the opening poster has nothing to worry about.

Not everyone buys an slr to get professional grade results. I bought mine because I enjoy using it, and I like my results (even if they are slightly off).

There's just been a bit of negativity around people wanting to get into slr, and then you get people who nick pick everything. It's hard to see the bright side in it if everyone warns you it's hard.
#17
Cheers for all responses guys and girls.

Just abit overwhelmed at the minute with the amount of choices. I do think i will buy a book and give it a read and maybe go on a course before we leave.

I'm looking to spend about the 700/1k bracket but i want to be fully understanding of what im doing by the time we go on safari in 2016 (summer) so i will use Mexico as a learning curve i think.

Has anyone used the LumixLZ20Ii have, before? I mean ive gotten some pretty nice shots from it but always using the IntelligentAuto setting but it does have manual exposure setting as well and a few other options. No option to change lens though which would of been beneficial to getting to grips with it.

Here are a couple of shots ive taken with my current camera:

http://i60.tinypic.com/2n0iknc.jpg

http://i62.tinypic.com/15x0dft.jpg

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