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does anyone know how much of an effect this will have on kodi users? see article below: http://www.coventrytelegraph.net/news/coventry-news/everyone-who-watches-pirate-tv-12465376 I know this… Read More
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3m, 1w agoPosted 3 months, 1 week ago
does anyone know how much of an effect this will have on kodi users?

see article below:

http://www.coventrytelegraph.net/news/coventry-news/everyone-who-watches-pirate-tv-12465376

I know this is just scare mongering for these type of users but just wondering if anyone has any insight to this??

"Going to be interesting over the next couple of days - keep a eye out for your letter box and see what lands on your matt?!"
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3m, 1w agoPosted 3 months, 1 week ago
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#1
I understand the torrent side as you upload (seed) back to people, but streaming your not technically downloading hence stream.

That bloke from Teesside was nuts, he had advertised FREE Sky Sports outside his shop lol, no wonder hes in court.

Loads of people use Kodi its one of the biggest media centres around, doubt a letter will stop people watching stuff as theres no law on the whole thing yet.
#2
Toon_army
I understand the torrent side as you upload (seed) back to people, but streaming your not technically downloading hence stream.

That bloke from Teesside was nuts, he had advertised FREE Sky Sports outside his shop lol, no wonder hes in court.

Loads of people use Kodi its one of the biggest media centres around, doubt a letter will stop people watching stuff as theres no law on the whole thing yet.


streaming is still downloading, the data just isn't saved.
#3
eternaldragonuk
Toon_army
I understand the torrent side as you upload (seed) back to people, but streaming your not technically downloading hence stream.
That bloke from Teesside was nuts, he had advertised FREE Sky Sports outside his shop lol, no wonder hes in court.
Loads of people use Kodi its one of the biggest media centres around, doubt a letter will stop people watching stuff as theres no law on the whole thing yet.
streaming is still downloading, the data just isn't saved.

If you read the law up, few people have put it on here a few times. Its just saving to the cache so its allowed, thats why nothing been done yet with the whole Kodi thing.
Its been going years so there a little late to jump up on, everybody uses it lol
#4
Usual confusion of Kodi v content source.
#5
Please ignore anyone who tells you that "streaming is alright though!"
Might as well say it's fine to shoplift if you take it back quickly!
#6
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-38583357

The plans to send out letters to people identified as net pirates were first agreed in 2014.

Get it Right from a Genuine Site insists there has been no delay to the plans.

"The educational campaign has now been running successfully for over a year with the educational email element beginning during the early part of 2017," said a Get it Right spokesperson.

Get it Right monitors peer to peer networks for illegal downloads.

But many newer forms of consuming content free, such as streaming and cyber-lockers, are not included.

Neither are Kodi add-ons and other set-top box software that allow users to stream pirated movies, sport and TV programmes.
#7
Erubadhron
Please ignore anyone who tells you that "streaming is alright though!"
Might as well say it's fine to shoplift if you take it back quickly!
Tbh the stuff i stream i wasnt going to buy anyway and if its good then i usualy pay for a rental on the tv box ,when normaly i will just borrow it off a friend or watch it when its on tv. So the film companys arnt loosing any revenue as i wasnt ever going to buy it .
I think this problem would be solved better by making films release as rentals at the same time as cinema as i might consider renting at home but dont ever go to the cinema
#8
Toon_army
eternaldragonuk
Toon_army
I understand the torrent side as you upload (seed) back to people, but streaming your not technically downloading hence stream.
That bloke from Teesside was nuts, he had advertised FREE Sky Sports outside his shop lol, no wonder hes in court.
Loads of people use Kodi its one of the biggest media centres around, doubt a letter will stop people watching stuff as theres no law on the whole thing yet.
streaming is still downloading, the data just isn't saved.

If you read the law up, few people have put it on here a few times. Its just saving to the cache so its allowed, thats why nothing been done yet with the whole Kodi thing.
Its been going years so there a little late to jump up on, everybody uses it lol


"If you read the law up..." lol! This right here lol. X)
#9
AndyRoyd
Usual confusion of Kodi v content source.
yes but the content source is the whole issue here - I doubt it be easy to prove the contest of what`s been downloaded on to kodi but going to be interesting over the next couple of days
#10
vpn
#11
eternaldragonuk
Toon_army
I understand the torrent side as you upload (seed) back to people, but streaming your not technically downloading hence stream.
That bloke from Teesside was nuts, he had advertised FREE Sky Sports outside his shop lol, no wonder hes in court.
Loads of people use Kodi its one of the biggest media centres around, doubt a letter will stop people watching stuff as theres no law on the whole thing yet.
streaming is still downloading, the data just isn't saved.
The illegal element is hosting and redistributing, some kodi builds have apps like pulsar which streams and shares torrents which is illegal but if you're just using kodi for apps like exodus, salts, velocity etc you are streaming and its legal.
#12
This article is about downloading torrents only nothing to do with the use of Kodi.
#13
Effect on anyone buying boxes with Kodi preinstalled or installing it yourself, absolutely zilch.

OP, have you crawled out from under a rock, been in a coma or just been returned by aliens? Similar stories have appeared every year for at least past 15 years.

The authorities rarely if ever go after the end users for the reasons posted above. They go after the people that sell hacked boxes. This may well change in the future, but I doubt it.
#14
Won't affect any kodi users as kodi doesn't come with any pirate add-ons or streams. It might affect users of certain add-ons though...

Edited By: dcx_badass on Jan 18, 2017 07:21
#15
dcx_badass
Won't affect any kodi users as kodi doesn't come with any pirate add-ons or streams. It might affect users of certain add-ons though...


It won't. The authorities are only going after those that sell hacked boxes. This my change in many years, but doubt it.

https://torrentfreak.com/fact-lawyer-reveals-challenges-kodi-box-seller-prosecutions-170106/

The case against Thompson is being heard in May this year.

If found guilty and you have been selling Kodi boxes that allow streaming or downloading of paid content without paying then expect a knock, virtual or real on your front door. Then expect a fine or in worst case, your back door may be stretched n prison.

Edited By: dothedealnow on Jan 18, 2017 07:46: more info
#16
It's been a while since I've looked at it, but generally, I think, copyright offences involve someone making or distributing an infringing 'copy'. If you're just in receipt of the infringing copy then I don't think you commit an offence - although you may be committing a civil infringement so the copyright owner could take action against you in the civil court.

There's also an offence for, essentially, modifying equipment in order to circumvent copyright protection.

I also believe there's an offence of fraudulently receiving programmes, but I don't think it's ever used as no enforcement bodies have any powers to enforce it.
#17
If you’re starting to panic though - the letter actually just explains where you can download content legally and doesn’t necessarily mean you’re going to get in trouble
Whats this got to do with Kodi users? Answer..... Nothing.
#18
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nada
nothing
ziltch
Without the use of packet sniffing technology which has not been passed as legal for mass surveillance (individual cases with court order only) they can't differentiate your illegal streaming with Netflix etc.
The streaming source can be blocked but because they generally bounce around the globe it's almost impossible.
#19
Erubadhron
Please ignore anyone who tells you that "streaming is alright though!"
Might as well say it's fine to shoplift if you take it back quickly!

Except the courts have clearly said that's not the case.

In Europe, the Court of Justice of the European Union (CJEU) has ruled that it is legal to create temporary or cached copies of works (copyrighted or otherwise) online. The ruling relates to the British Meltwater case settled on 5 June 2014.

The judgement of the court states that: "Article 5 of Directive 2001/29/EC of the European Parliament and of the Council of 22 May 2001 on the harmonisation of certain aspects of copyright and related rights in the information society must be interpreted as meaning that the copies on the user’s computer screen and the copies in the internet ‘cache’ of that computer’s hard disk, made by an end-user in the course of viewing a website, satisfy the conditions that those copies must be temporary, that they must be transient or incidental in nature and that they must constitute an integral and essential part of a technological process, as well as the conditions laid down in Article 5(5) of that directive, and that they may therefore be made without the authorisation of the copyright holders."
#20
Since when was the coventry telegraph the go to place for all things in technology?
I thought cats in bins was their limit
#21
The law don't Care about John Smith from London who streams the odd movie here and there. What they will crack down on are those knows like that guy who was selling sky subs, and those who sell a million android boxes loads with kodi etc. But let's face reality here. As long as you keep yourself to yourself who's gonna know. I know coppers who download from pirate Bay etc
#22
Toon_army
but streaming your not technically downloading hence stream.

Yes you are, any data that comes from the internet is downloaded, just because it doesn't write the data to your hard drive doesn't change the fact, it was downloaded.
You view a picture on here or any webpages viewed, they were downloaded so you can view them on your device.

Toon_army
doubt a letter will stop people watching stuff as theres no law on the whole thing yet.

Yes there is, a few years ago it was a civil offence, now it's a criminal offence.
In a way that is better, copyright trolls would mass email or send letters demanding payments to make a civil case go away, you had to pay for your legal defence.
Now it's a criminal offence, It has to be proven in a court of law, you're legally entitled to a defence
#23
itsdavidjones1984
I know coppers who download from pirate Bay etc


I know police officers that drive whilst talking on their mobile and speed... what's your point?
#24
Nothing to worry about. The government seems to be taking an 'educational approach' rather than a 'we are going to arrest everyone'. Last I heard 1 in 10 people watch pirated content, good luck arresting 10% of the population.

I guess they realised you cannot ever stop pirating, so they're going to try and convince people to pay legally to watch movies etc.
#25
Toon_army
I understand the torrent side as you upload (seed) back to people, but streaming your not technically downloading hence stream.

That bloke from Teesside was nuts, he had advertised FREE Sky Sports outside his shop lol, no wonder hes in court.

Loads of people use Kodi its one of the biggest media centres around, doubt a letter will stop people watching stuff as theres no law on the whole thing yet.


Like those those idiots who have dodgy cable/satellite boxes/card sharing - yet call Sky or Virgin when it goes down!!!
#26
thedvdmonster
Since when was the coventry telegraph the go to place for all things in technology?
I thought cats in bins was their limit
yeah didn`t see the bbc article
#27
Let's get brexit quickly lol

Muir
Erubadhron
Please ignore anyone who tells you that "streaming is alright though!"
Might as well say it's fine to shoplift if you take it back quickly!
Except the courts have clearly said that's not the case.In Europe, the Court of Justice of the European Union (CJEU) has ruled that it is legal to create temporary or cached copies of works (copyrighted or otherwise) online. The ruling relates to the British Meltwater case settled on 5 June 2014.
The judgement of the court states that: "Article 5 of Directive 2001/29/EC of the European Parliament and of the Council of 22 May 2001 on the harmonisation of certain aspects of copyright and related rights in the information society must be interpreted as meaning that the copies on the user’s computer screen and the copies in the internet ‘cache’ of that computer’s hard disk, made by an end-user in the course of viewing a website, satisfy the conditions that those copies must be temporary, that they must be transient or incidental in nature and that they must constitute an integral and essential part of a technological process, as well as the conditions laid down in Article 5(5) of that directive, and that they may therefore be made without the authorisation of the copyright holders."

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