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Hi everybody My daughter wants a pc and I am so far out of the loop on the topic so thought I would seek some advise. This is available nearish to me, and here are the specs : Athena widow… Read More
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9m, 1d agoPosted 9 months, 1 day ago
Hi everybody

My daughter wants a pc and I am so far out of the loop on the topic so thought I would seek some advise.

This is available nearish to me, and here are the specs :

Athena

widows 7, intel i7 1st gen 2.9gh easy to clock but no need 8 cpus

12g ram. Asus GTX Nvidia 970 strix graphics card

runs gta v on very high on all at 1080

asus p5p77d-e motherboards sata 3 6gb

1x 120gb Agility 3 ssd Hard Drive for windows

1x 1TB hard drive

full size tower very quiet

It is advertised at £500 or offers.

She wants to play games of it. She has seen Scrap Mechanic and some other games.

We have an xbox one, and this computer would have to be attached to my Panasonic Plasma tv. Is that pheasable?

Thanks in advance for any info tips or recommendations you can provide.
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9m, 1d agoPosted 9 months, 1 day ago
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#1
just asked my partner and he said it is a good price and is good as a starting gaming pc. he had one with pretty much same specs and it ran all he needed it to. hope this helps
#2
Personally I would avoid due to the old CPU although you have failed to mention which model it is.
#3
I wouldn't buy any PC without knowing which exact PSU is inside the machine, if it's a cheap one then it could conk out and take all the other equipment with it quite easily!

Yes it will play on your TV as you can plug in via HDMI (may have to look at overscan/underscan issues)
#4
The CPU & Motherboard are ancient (you are talking 6 years old). The graphics card (GPU) is a good modern version. Major problem when you go for old tech is that you have huge problems upgrading when the time comes.

For £500, I'd honestly pass.
#5
joshp
Personally I would avoid due to the old CPU although you have failed to mention which model it is.

Op said 1st generation 2.9ghz, so it'll be the Core i7-940 or 870 I guess
#6
mmm2323
just asked my partner and he said it is a good price and is good as a starting gaming pc. he had one with pretty much same specs and it ran all he needed it to. hope this helps

It's not a starter pc. The motherboard is ancient. It can never be upgraded to the latest cpu's, ram etc.
#7
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joshp
Personally I would avoid due to the old CPU although you have failed to mention which model it is.
Op said 1st generation 2.9ghz, so it'll be the Core i7-940 or 870 I guess

Yeah, I still stand by my recommendation. They are very old, I'd avoid for sure.
#8
booboy2
this computer would have to be attached to my Panasonic Plasma tv. Is that pheasable?

It depends on the model of the TV. You would need a decent resolution so any TVs that's less than 1366x768 will have problems. Some of the early HD plasmas also only has component inputs which won't work. You'll need a VGA, DVI, HDMI or DisplayPort input.

joshp
Personally I would avoid due to the old CPU although you have failed to mention which model it is.

There's only one or two almost identical models that meet the criteria of first generation 2.9Ghz. It's an i7-860/870 or i7-930/940.

It's an reasonable machine for gaming. You're paying the penalty of buying older high end components of higher power use and potentially more noise. Without knowing the quality of the bits that don't age and can be reused like the case and power supply it's hard to judge it's value but £500 is definitely on the higher end of what you'd want to be paying for that level of performance.

The main thing with the computer is that the OCZ Agility 3 was a very unreliable SSD and a lot of them failed which caused OCZ to go out of business. If it does fail on you it's about £50 for a new SSD, and the time to reinstall everything.
#9
I'm still rocking a 1st gen Core i7 920 @ 3.8ghz on a Asus P6 TV Deluxe, had it for 7 years now and it's still a good gaming machine, coupled with a GTX 980ti. I did have a GTX 970 and that was a good gpu for 1080p. Looking at benchmarks a more powerfull CPU with a 980ti doesn't give many more FPS. I would check what psu it has though because if it's a cheap one you could have problems, I've had a Tagan PipeRock 800watt modular for 7 years and it's been rock solid, again some people would turn there noses up at it but in reality the system your looking at for £500 is not bad.
#10
Thanks guys for all of your great responses.
I will ponder on this. However does anybody have any recommendations for a new system that would allow her to play games for around this price.

Space is limited hence the reason I hoped to hook it to the TV.

My plasma is a tx-42x60b.
It has HDMI and in the handbook it says it's 720p, I think that means 720p = 1280 x 720?

I may be better with a laptop with a graphics card in.

Edited By: booboy2 on Oct 20, 2016 14:01
#11
Id avoid because of the CPU. GPU is worth maybe £150 and I don't see much value in the other parts. I'd imagine its worth maybe £300 - £350 dependant on case and PSU

Edited By: Deaa on Oct 20, 2016 14:50
#12
booboy2
Thanks guys for all of your great responses.
I will ponder on this. However does anybody have any recommendations for a new system that would allow her to play games for around this price.
Space is limited hence the reason I hoped to hook it to the TV.
My plasma is a tx-42x60b.
It has HDMI and in the handbook it says it's 720p, I think that means 720p = 1280 x 720?
I may be better with a laptop with a graphics card in.
The processor and motherboard are both very old, so they could die at any moment, although they probably won't and are still good enough for modern games. Both hard drives are worth next to nothing, the power supply could be anything and memory is pretty damp cheap. The only thing of real value is the graphics card, which dropped massively in price with the release of the 1080 etc.
If you could get it for £400 I would say go for it, but £500 is a bit much. 2 years ago I bought a 3rd generation i7 (3770) system with 16gb of ram for £300 and stuck a 290X and a very nice psu (all second hand) for £200. So the same price as this system you are looking at two years later, with a 1st Gen i7.
The graphics in it (970GTX) are equivalent to a mobile 980m which would set you back about £1500 (less economic hand) to have in a laptop, so for £500 you are going to get nothing comparable to the system you are looking at.
#13
You can easily build a PC, it will save you a good amount of money compared to buying a pre-made (outdated) one.

http://www.reddit.com/r/buildapc has looooooaaaads of information and there are people posting there way more often than any other forum relating to PC building. You can ask any number of questions and look at what builds people are making and at what cost.

Building a PC is really simple, once you have the pieces that work together it's literally just plugging in a few cables and putting a few screws in. It'd be something fun for you to do with your daughter.
#14
booboy2
It has HDMI and in the handbook it says it's 720p, I think that means 720p = 1280 x 720?

It might just mean it accepts that resolution, usually even TVs quote both dimensions for their native resolution. If it is the native resolution is could be 1280x720 or 1366x768.

768 vertical pixels has been a fairly common minimum for Windows for a long time now (it comes from 1024x768 back before widescreens) so if it is 1280x720 you'll find some games and programs refuse to run.
#15
MIDURIX
booboy2
Thanks guys for all of your great responses.
I will ponder on this. However does anybody have any recommendations for a new system that would allow her to play games for around this price.
Space is limited hence the reason I hoped to hook it to the TV.
My plasma is a tx-42x60b.
It has HDMI and in the handbook it says it's 720p, I think that means 720p = 1280 x 720?
I may be better with a laptop with a graphics card in.
The processor and motherboard are both very old, so they could die at any moment, although they probably won't and are still good enough for modern games. Both hard drives are worth next to nothing, the power supply could be anything and memory is pretty damp cheap. The only thing of real value is the graphics card, which dropped massively in price with the release of the 1080 etc.
If you could get it for £400 I would say go for it, but £500 is a bit much. 2 years ago I bought a 3rd generation i7 (3770) system with 16gb of ram for £300 and stuck a 290X and a very nice psu (all second hand) for £200. So the same price as this system you are looking at two years later, with a 1st Gen i7.
The graphics in it (970GTX) are equivalent to a mobile 980m which would set you back about £1500 (less economic hand) to have in a laptop, so for £500 you are going to get nothing comparable to the system you are looking at.


Thank you.
Indeed thank you all for your input

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