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This has happened twice to me now. I am at a T junction with has a roundabout. When i get to the junction, i have traffic coming from the right, traffic coming from the left. Obviously, the traffic co… Read More
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6m, 3w agoPosted 6 months, 3 weeks ago
This has happened twice to me now. I am at a T junction with has a roundabout. When i get to the junction, i have traffic coming from the right, traffic coming from the left. Obviously, the traffic coming from the right i have to let pass, the traffic from the left will have to stop to let me pass. If the traffic from the right, put their indicator to turn left (the road i am coming from), but instead goes straight, if I was involved in a crash, who would be right who would be wrong. I obviously will no proof to say that they had their indicators on as it would be my word against their word. Anyone knows the answer to this, thanks
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6m, 3w agoPosted 6 months, 3 weeks ago
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#1
Without any witnesses/cctv or an admission of liability from the other driver you would be held at fault for it
#2
Its all one words against eachothers. If you have proof then balls in your court. If you dont then it could lead to a 50/50. Best thing is to just avoid this, be extra cautious, always have some idiots drivers. And also invest in a dashcam.
#3
Just because someone has their indicators on doesn't mean they are turning down your junction. The amount of people who indicate wrong at a round about is shocking and I am surprised more accidents don't occur. even if someone is indicating you should still check that it is safe for you to pull out into on coming traffic. i have seen drivers drive for miles with left hand indicators on and it isn't until someone does pull out in front of them and they get a scare do they notice that they are still indicating.
#4
That would be your fault, you should never pull out unless you KNOW someone is turning, regardless of their indicators
#5
It would be your fault as frustrating as it is. Even with evidence you'd still at least share responsibility. Take indicators for what they are, an indication of direction of travel. Never assume someone is taking an exit because there are way too many bad drivers on the roads. Same as when someone indicates to go round a roundabout but doesn't indicate to make the exit. Makees my blood boil. Or even those that didn't purchase indicators when they specified their new car.
#6
I agree with the other answers
The Highway Code Rule 185 reads
When reaching the roundabout you should;
watch out for all other road users already on the roundabout; be aware they may not be signalling correctly or at all
#7
It would be your fault, however harsh that may appear, it would also be hard to prove otherwise.
#8
same as already said, it's just like if someone slams on in front of you it's your fault
#9
ok thanks, in this case there were 3 cars coming from my right , all with the indicators. The first one turned but the second did not but yes i will be more cautious and maybe invest in a dashcam, thus this is coming at 90 degree from the RHS, so not sure if a dashcam would film this
#10
Agree with others, you would be at fault and footage/witnesses would be no help to you.

Irrespective of indicators being used or not, the vehicle from your right has right of way, pull in front of them its your fault.
#11
I think you need to repeat your driving course. Isn't that the basic stuff they teach anyway?
#12
mattsokolinski
I think you need to repeat your driving course. Isn't that the basic stuff they teach anyway?


You are correct but that's a bit harsh!
#13
mattsokolinski
I think you need to repeat your driving course. Isn't that the basic stuff they teach anyway?
I have been driving for 36 years, so i think i am ok with this. Just wanted to clarify,as for the past few years there are a number of drivers that don't use their indicators at all, or in this case indicating the wrong direction
#14
Never assume any driver will do anything.
It's especially important to remember at junctions and roundabouts.

A young woman was killed not far from me because a lorry driver flashed his lights to another lorry coming the other way. The woman assumed it was meant for her in that it was safe to pull out and ignored the obvious lack of any slowing down or actual room.
#15
The other week there was a car in front of me indicating to turn left at an upcoming junction.

They slowed down, but didn't turn off. Instead carried on and cancelled the indicator a few seconds later.

Luckily no one was at the junction at the time.
#16
jeannot18
mattsokolinski
I think you need to repeat your driving course. Isn't that the basic stuff they teach anyway?
I have been driving for 36 years, so i think i am ok with this. Just wanted to clarify,as for the past few years there are a number of drivers that don't use their indicators at all, or in this case indicating the wrong direction
just because you drive for 36 years does not mean you are a good driver, you may have experience but knowledge is lacking (as seen above) and it would seem that you are quite ignorant to that fact. im also pretty certain 36years ago rules were quite different as well

doctors/nurses/surgeons dont just practice what they been taught 30 years ago, they refresh/update their knowledge nearly every day by looking at new research and guidelines. this should be not different for drivers


Edited By: mattsokolinski on Oct 28, 2016 21:48
#17
Dash cams or try and get way if theres another way to drive do that
#18
there are a number of drivers that don't use their indicators at all
usually the drivers of german executive cars, i think they have their own rules regarding speed limits, lane discipline and indicating

Edited By: ding on Oct 29, 2016 11:09
#19
Dash cam would be pointless anyway unless it had 360 vision or was aimed specifically in that direction. It would most certainly be in the cameras blind spot.
#20
mattsokolinski
jeannot18
mattsokolinski
I think you need to repeat your driving course. Isn't that the basic stuff they teach anyway?
I have been driving for 36 years, so i think i am ok with this. Just wanted to clarify,as for the past few years there are a number of drivers that don't use their indicators at all, or in this case indicating the wrong direction
just because you drive for 36 years does not mean you are a good driver, you may have experience but knowledge is lacking (as seen above) and it would seem that you are quite ignorant to that fact. im also pretty certain 36years ago rules were quite different as well
doctors/nurses/surgeons dont just practice what they been taught 30 years ago, they refresh/update their knowledge nearly every day by looking at new research and guidelines. this should be not different for drivers

I'm fairly sure you had to give way to the right 30 years ago..
#21
andynicol
mattsokolinski
jeannot18
mattsokolinski
I think you need to repeat your driving course. Isn't that the basic stuff they teach anyway?
I have been driving for 36 years, so i think i am ok with this. Just wanted to clarify,as for the past few years there are a number of drivers that don't use their indicators at all, or in this case indicating the wrong direction
just because you drive for 36 years does not mean you are a good driver, you may have experience but knowledge is lacking (as seen above) and it would seem that you are quite ignorant to that fact. im also pretty certain 36years ago rules were quite different as well
doctors/nurses/surgeons dont just practice what they been taught 30 years ago, they refresh/update their knowledge nearly every day by looking at new research and guidelines. this should be not different for drivers
I'm fairly sure you had to give way to the right 30 years ago..

clearly the OP does not think so by asking such ridiculous question and not knowing where to look for the answer (Highway code rule 170)
its usually the "experienced" drivers that dont use indicators, block the junctions in heavy traffic, drive on 3rd lane all the time and so on just because they think they know better how to drive.



Edited By: mattsokolinski on Oct 29, 2016 11:31
#22
An indicator is just that a indication of a drivers intention, if he has not turned or left the road then he is free to change his mind,
#23
mattsokolinski
andynicol
mattsokolinski
jeannot18
mattsokolinski
I think you need to repeat your driving course. Isn't that the basic stuff they teach anyway?
I have been driving for 36 years, so i think i am ok with this. Just wanted to clarify,as for the past few years there are a number of drivers that don't use their indicators at all, or in this case indicating the wrong direction
just because you drive for 36 years does not mean you are a good driver, you may have experience but knowledge is lacking (as seen above) and it would seem that you are quite ignorant to that fact. im also pretty certain 36years ago rules were quite different as well
doctors/nurses/surgeons dont just practice what they been taught 30 years ago, they refresh/update their knowledge nearly every day by looking at new research and guidelines. this should be not different for drivers
I'm fairly sure you had to give way to the right 30 years ago..
clearly the OP does not think so by asking such ridiculous question and not knowing where to look for the answer (Highway code rule 170)
its usually the "experienced" drivers that dont use indicators, block the junctions in heavy traffic, drive on 3rd lane all the time and so on just because they think they know better how to drive.

I responded to your comment re 'rules changing from 30 years ago' - as far as I'm aware 30 years ago you had to give way to the right, so unsure where your comment is relevant when the OP is clearly referring solely to giving way priorities.

Agree on your other points, driving time doesn't always equate to a good driver.
#24
mattsokolinski
andynicol
mattsokolinski
jeannot18
mattsokolinski
I think you need to repeat your driving course. Isn't that the basic stuff they teach anyway?
I have been driving for 36 years, so i think i am ok with this. Just wanted to clarify,as for the past few years there are a number of drivers that don't use their indicators at all, or in this case indicating the wrong direction
just because you drive for 36 years does not mean you are a good driver, you may have experience but knowledge is lacking (as seen above) and it would seem that you are quite ignorant to that fact. im also pretty certain 36years ago rules were quite different as well
doctors/nurses/surgeons dont just practice what they been taught 30 years ago, they refresh/update their knowledge nearly every day by looking at new research and guidelines. this should be not different for drivers
I'm fairly sure you had to give way to the right 30 years ago..
clearly the OP does not think so by asking such ridiculous question and not knowing where to look for the answer (Highway code rule 170)
its usually the "experienced" drivers that dont use indicators, block the junctions in heavy traffic, drive on 3rd lane all the time and so on just because they think they know better how to drive.
I did not want to reply to your posts as it looks like you are looking for some stupid argument over the post, but if you think my question was ridiculous I think that you are a presumptuous person, as you don't even know me, or the way I am driving, and no i don't block the fast lane at 50mph on the motorway, I do use my indicator all the time etc etc. But if you read my OP, i was not asking what the right of way was at a junction/roundabout, but in a case of a crash at a junction with someone using their indicator wrongly, who would be held responsible for it. I just wanted the opinion of people based on their personal experience. As for drivers, there are good and bad drivers on the road, young ones, old ones, men and women. I drive an average of 600 miles per week, and i see some outrageous things happening.

Edited By: jeannot18 on Oct 29, 2016 17:35

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