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Is eBay allowed to do this? Seller cancelled bid because item was too cheap

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1y, 11m agoPosted 1 year, 11 months ago
I had put a bid on a car bumper which was due to end today, I put a bid 3 days ago and no one else had bid on it. Seller cancelled my bid stating item is no longer available. Are they allowed to do this?
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1y, 11m agoPosted 1 year, 11 months ago
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banned#1
Yup, I'm pretty sure a seller can pull anything from auction, as long as its done like 12 hours before the auction ends, or something like that? ........ it's definately a pain in the ass to be on the receiving end though :(
#2
Yeah they can pretty much do what they like.

They can pull auctions of they please. They can cancel items (and issue refunds) if sold for too cheap a price.
#3
They list items at 99p start, you bid\ win then they refuse to sell. They dont want to pay the fees ( reserves etc ), then screw you by not selling because you win. NICE oO
#4
yes they can do it.
#5
How do you know they cancelled because it was too cheap? if you have evidence in the form of a message, report it to eBay by phone or live chat and the seller will get a strike as that's not an acceptable reason. If it's just no longer available, they can end it early but as it had a bid, they'll pay the final value fee. Doesn't help you but the seller doesn't get off scot-free.
#6
They can do it but they still have to pay final value fees based on the highest bid when they end it.

Yeah, what ceres said ^^^

No point in arguing though. They just have to say they stood on it and bent it. Or accidentally broke one of the brackets off. They can say anything.



Edited By: deeky on Dec 24, 2014 01:04
#7
They can easily avoid the FVFs, as they just ignore you and return any payments. Then say you didn't pay.

I've had this a few times but mainly on items that are collection only. Does get annoying but all you do is set up another account and then when they re-list bid any amount with no intention of paying, when the auction ends send the seller a message saying that you can do that all day with any amount of accounts to prevent them from selling the item. Some may say whats the point but when a buyer bids thay are expected to follow through with the purchase, WHY SHOULD IT BE ANY DIFFERENT FOR THE SELLER?
#8
mclovin9091
They can easily avoid the FVFs, as they just ignore you and return any payments. Then say you didn't pay.

I've had this a few times but mainly on items that are collection only. Does get annoying but all you do is set up another account and then when they re-list bid any amount with no intention of paying, when the auction ends send the seller a message saying that you can do that all day with any amount of accounts to prevent them from selling the item. Some may say whats the point but when a buyer bids thay are expected to follow through with the purchase, WHY SHOULD IT BE ANY DIFFERENT FOR THE SELLER?

Seems a lot of work for no gain. Far easier to just forget it and move on.
#9
mclovin9091
They can easily avoid the FVFs, as they just ignore you and return any payments. Then say you didn't pay.

This auction was ended early so the OP never got a chance to pay. If a seller ends an item early that has bids, they get charged FVF regardless that it hasn't been sold and they haven't been paid.
#10
mclovin9091
They can easily avoid the FVFs, as they just ignore you and return any payments. Then say you didn't pay.

I've had this a few times but mainly on items that are collection only. Does get annoying but all you do is set up another account and then when they re-list bid any amount with no intention of paying, when the auction ends send the seller a message saying that you can do that all day with any amount of accounts to prevent them from selling the item. Some may say whats the point but when a buyer bids thay are expected to follow through with the purchase, WHY SHOULD IT BE ANY DIFFERENT FOR THE SELLER?
thats just juvenile

Two wrongs don't make a right
#11
chocci
Two wrongs don't make a right

Two wrights invented & built the world's first successful airplane.
#12
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#13
mclovin9091
They can easily avoid the FVFs, as they just ignore you and return any payments. Then say you didn't pay.

I've had this a few times but mainly on items that are collection only. Does get annoying but all you do is set up another account and then when they re-list bid any amount with no intention of paying, when the auction ends send the seller a message saying that you can do that all day with any amount of accounts to prevent them from selling the item. Some may say whats the point but when a buyer bids thay are expected to follow through with the purchase, WHY SHOULD IT BE ANY DIFFERENT FOR THE SELLER?

That is ridiculously petty.
#14
fanpages
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It's irrelevant really. The OP rarely revisits threads which he starts.
#15
yes. no one had to sell anything they don't want to under UK law.
#16
ceres
mclovin9091
They can easily avoid the FVFs, as they just ignore you and return any payments. Then say you didn't pay.

This auction was ended early so the OP never got a chance to pay. If a seller ends an item early that has bids, they get charged FVF regardless that it hasn't been sold and they haven't been paid.

Unless that is very new - then they don't do this. I sold a whole lot of things a few weeks ago (end of Oct) and most were of an annoying size/shape to post so I was happy if people offered a cash amount to collect before the end - this had the downside of meaning that I had to cancel the listings and any bids. I just chose the option that the item was no longer available. It gave me a warning that they 'may' charge a FVF on the highest bid but they didn't - I cancelled about 8 listings and didn't get charged for any of them.
#17
nbuuifx
ceres
mclovin9091
They can easily avoid the FVFs, as they just ignore you and return any payments. Then say you didn't pay.

This auction was ended early so the OP never got a chance to pay. If a seller ends an item early that has bids, they get charged FVF regardless that it hasn't been sold and they haven't been paid.

Unless that is very new - then they don't do this. I sold a whole lot of things a few weeks ago (end of Oct) and most were of an annoying size/shape to post so I was happy if people offered a cash amount to collect before the end - this had the downside of meaning that I had to cancel the listings and any bids. I just chose the option that the item was no longer available. It gave me a warning that they 'may' charge a FVF on the highest bid but they didn't - I cancelled about 8 listings and didn't get charged for any of them.

You got lucky. There have been multiple threads on here where people have been charged.
#18
I hate it when they do this, the seller was a trader and the bumper was worth £200-300. I could've gotten a bargain :(
#19
h4mza
I hate it when they do this, the seller was a trader and the bumper was worth £200-300. I could've gotten a bargain :(
So, if you had something valued at around £200-£300 on ebay with only a low bid on it and 1 day remaining and someone offered you £150, then you would do the right thing and refuse as it is on ebay?
#20
Gotta love the hypocrisy in this thread. So many tales of woe on here about scammy, cheating, time-wasting buyers. Perfectly counter-balanced here by the scammy, cheating, time-wasting sellers.

1. no-one forces anyone to list anything on ebay at a price they don't want to sell at
2. ebay allows the use of reserve prices below which an item won't sell
3. you can set you auction or BIN with a starting price at the lowest price you will accept.

There is no excuse for cancelling an auction with bids because it's going too cheap.
#21
ceres
Gotta love the hypocrisy in this thread. So many tales of woe on here about scammy, cheating, time-wasting buyers. Perfectly counter-balanced here by the scammy, cheating, time-wasting sellers.

1. no-one forces anyone to list anything on ebay at a price they don't want to sell at
2. ebay allows the use of reserve prices below which an item won't sell
3. you can set you auction or BIN with a starting price at the lowest price you will accept.

There is no excuse for cancelling an auction with bids because it's going too cheap.

But if ebay puts everything in place to do it that way then sometimes I guess you just have to play the game!

The items I sold were things like trailers and wheels etc - it worked well as they were fairly expensive items but they weren't postable items. I've been messed around in the past where buyers don't turn up or turn up then offer less. I was more than happy to take a potentially lower amount to ensure the items were sold and gone but this meant I had to cancel the listings - this also worked out a lot cheaper in respect of the ebay fees. I did put on the listings that they were listed elsewhere and I reserved the right to cancel the listing - so buyers were warned.
#22
nbuuifx
ceres
Gotta love the hypocrisy in this thread. So many tales of woe on here about scammy, cheating, time-wasting buyers. Perfectly counter-balanced here by the scammy, cheating, time-wasting sellers.

1. no-one forces anyone to list anything on ebay at a price they don't want to sell at
2. ebay allows the use of reserve prices below which an item won't sell
3. you can set you auction or BIN with a starting price at the lowest price you will accept.

There is no excuse for cancelling an auction with bids because it's going too cheap.

But if ebay puts everything in place to do it that way then sometimes I guess you just have to play the game!

The items I sold were things like trailers and wheels etc - it worked well as they were fairly expensive items but they weren't postable items. I've been messed around in the past where buyers don't turn up or turn up then offer less. I was more than happy to take a potentially lower amount to ensure the items were sold and gone but this meant I had to cancel the listings - this also worked out a lot cheaper in respect of the ebay fees. I did put on the listings that they were listed elsewhere and I reserved the right to cancel the listing - so buyers were warned.

Justify it all you want, doesn't make it right and it's still a breach of eBay's T&C irrespective of what weasel words you put in your listing. Karma if you get buyers messing you around and eBay charging you fees.
#23
Some sellers might put in their post " for sale else where " getting a better offer ,happened to me this week bidding on a watch poof and it was gone
#24
ceres
nbuuifx
ceres
Gotta love the hypocrisy in this thread. So many tales of woe on here about scammy, cheating, time-wasting buyers. Perfectly counter-balanced here by the scammy, cheating, time-wasting sellers.

1. no-one forces anyone to list anything on ebay at a price they don't want to sell at
2. ebay allows the use of reserve prices below which an item won't sell
3. you can set you auction or BIN with a starting price at the lowest price you will accept.

There is no excuse for cancelling an auction with bids because it's going too cheap.

But if ebay puts everything in place to do it that way then sometimes I guess you just have to play the game!

The items I sold were things like trailers and wheels etc - it worked well as they were fairly expensive items but they weren't postable items. I've been messed around in the past where buyers don't turn up or turn up then offer less. I was more than happy to take a potentially lower amount to ensure the items were sold and gone but this meant I had to cancel the listings - this also worked out a lot cheaper in respect of the ebay fees. I did put on the listings that they were listed elsewhere and I reserved the right to cancel the listing - so buyers were warned.

Justify it all you want, doesn't make it right and it's still a breach of eBay's T&C irrespective of what weasel words you put in your listing. Karma if you get buyers messing you around and eBay charging you fees.

Merry Christmas to you too

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