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My first back up! need advice!

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hi all, so ive decided its time i make my first external hard drive back up as i actually have files id be disapointed to lose that i cant store online as i have run out of space on my existing sto… Read More
nekoangel Avatar
8m, 4w agoPosted 8 months, 4 weeks ago
hi all,

so ive decided its time i make my first external hard drive back up as i actually have files id be disapointed to lose that i cant store online as i have run out of space on my existing storage sites.

ive also read lots that you need more than 1 back up so here i am with an external drive. im on windows 10 and i was wondering what programs are good to use? ( there are so many to choose from its dizzying)

i have a 3tb hard drive id like to back up containing photos, movies and music. would it hurt to just copy and paste the folders over? i tried using the built in windows back up but it doesn't give much away to say its working and then the window just force closes when i re open it so i dont think thats working for me.

what would people suggest for a noob?
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8m, 4w agoPosted 8 months, 4 weeks ago
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#1
Just drag and drop them from your computer to the external hard drive.

I copied over about 3000 vids and pics last weekend to my external. Just let it get on with it
#2
if you can pay use crashplan. it is nice , easy , secure and reliable!
#3
benjammin316
Just drag and drop them from your computer to the external hard drive.
I copied over about 3000 vids and pics last weekend to my external. Just let it get on with it

i was thinking this was just the simplest way as any files that clash in the future i can overwrite etc.

i think it wanted about 16 hours to copy though hah.

thanks for the reply, just hope to hear from some doing auto back ups now too .
#4
Try FreeFileSync. You can specify some backup rules so it needs a little savvy, but it works well.
#5
Synctoy might suit you :
https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/details.aspx?id=15155
and apparently does work on Windows 10 :
https://www.reddit.com/r/Windows10/comments/3f5fts/synctoy_equivalent_for_windows_10_program_to/

My main data is on a NAS drive and I use synctoy to "echo" changes I've made there (additions or deletions) to a backup disk. It's pretty customisable without being complicated to use. You can do a dry run and it will tell you which files will be copied across (or deleted).

Edit : markystarky posted while I was writing. That presumably is a similar sort of product.

Edited By: chrisjackson on Aug 24, 2016 09:11
#6
chrisjackson
Synctoy might suit you :
https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/details.aspx?id=15155
and apparently does work on Windows 10 :
https://www.reddit.com/r/Windows10/comments/3f5fts/synctoy_equivalent_for_windows_10_program_to/

My main data is on a NAS drive and I use synctoy to "echo" changes I've made there (additions or deletions) to a backup disk. It's pretty customisable without being complicated to use. You can do a dry run and it will tell you which files will be copied across (or deleted).

Edit : markystarky posted while I was writing. That presumably is a similar sort of product.


+1 for synctoy.
I use it on windows 10, it's very configurable. You can set it to do incremental, differential or full re write backups, incremental is best for me because once it's done a full backup, it will only copy new files next time.
#7
easeus todo backup free is the best I have used with freefilesync second ( I use easus for daily incremental and freefilesync for real time crucial folders sync)

http://www.easeus.com/backup-software/tb-free.html

http://www.freefilesync.org/
#8
Really informative info.. Subscribing.
#9
Thanks again for all the replies!

I'm trying sync toy right now.

It's such a mine field when so many options are available. I'll report back with my end result!
#10
https://allwaysync.com/ is the one of choice for me
#11
nekoangel
benjammin316
Just drag and drop them from your computer to the external hard drive.
I copied over about 3000 vids and pics last weekend to my external. Just let it get on with it
i was thinking this was just the simplest way as any files that clash in the future i can overwrite etc.
i think it wanted about 16 hours to copy though hah.
thanks for the reply, just hope to hear from some doing auto back ups now too .

If it is going to take 16 hours to copy all the files across that is a lot of files and I do wonder if you NEED them all on your computer. How often do you use or look at the files on your PC?

I keep very few "user" files on my computer itself, I keep the bulk of my files on the external hard drive (on more than one of course) and only refer to them when I want to look at them or use them.

Edited By: guilbert53 on Aug 24, 2016 11:34
#12
There is a distinction between sync and backup.

A sync is designed to keep files in two places identical. If you're working on something across two computers then you'd use a sync utility to keep both copies the same.

A backup utility on the other hand will use all the space it's allocated and save as many different copies of the file as possible, keeping previous versions until it runs out of space.

The functional difference is that if you make a mistake or a file gets corrupted and you don't discover that for a few days or weeks then you can pluck a working version straight off your backup drive but the synced copy is identical to the broken one.

Sync has it's place, but you're better off using something with backup functionality.
#13
EndlessWaves
There is a distinction between sync and backup.
A sync is designed to keep files in two places identical. If you're working on something across two computers then you'd use a sync utility to keep both copies the same.
A backup utility on the other hand will use all the space it's allocated and save as many different copies of the file as possible, keeping previous versions until it runs out of space.
The functional difference is that if you make a mistake or a file gets corrupted and you don't discover that for a few days or weeks then you can pluck a working version straight off your backup drive but the synced copy is identical to the broken one.
Sync has it's place, but you're better off using something with backup functionality.
i think snyc might be for me then.

i dont need loads of different back ups just a copy of everyhting those folders contains. its the media i use in plex from my pc so its used often and then odd pics i upload etc. ive set it up to mirro changes from pc to external but do you think a back up is better ? id hate to have to rip hours of things back again if i were to lose the main media drive.
#14
whats the best way to transfer pics from drive to a external storage? ive got hundreds of family pics in gdrive but would like a external back up but not sure the easiest,least complicated way to go about it.
#15
chocci
easeus todo backup free is the best I have used with freefilesync second ( I use easus for daily incremental and freefilesync for real time crucial folders sync)

http://www.easeus.com/backup-software/tb-free.html

http://www.freefilesync.org/

why is using software better than simply copy and pasting from pc to say a external hdd? genuine question chocs <3
#16
EN1GMA
chocci
easeus todo backup free is the best I have used with freefilesync second ( I use easus for daily incremental and freefilesync for real time crucial folders sync)

http://www.easeus.com/backup-software/tb-free.html

http://www.freefilesync.org/

why is using software better than simply copy and pasting from pc to say a external hdd? genuine question chocs <3


Backup is automated and easier to assign multiple sources too. Windows has its own built in software but it's harder to configure.
#17
Remember, a backup solution is only as good as its ability to restore your data and get you back to where you were.

If it's a matter of loose data then simply back that up. If you need to recover an OS then you need to consider your options there too and which vary considerably more than backing up loose data.
#18
EN1GMA
chocci
easeus todo backup free is the best I have used with freefilesync second ( I use easus for daily incremental and freefilesync for real time crucial folders sync)http://www.easeus.com/backup-software/tb-free.htmlhttp://www.freefilesync.org/
why is using software better than simply copy and pasting from pc to say a external hdd? genuine question chocs <3
because its automated and instant - I'll do anything to make my life easier lol
#19
I use FreeFileSync for the secondary backup with the deletions set to be moved to a timestamped directory for the Win10.
For Android, I use FolderSync to backup directories to cloud. (There is a limited free version as well)
For ITunes on Win10 to duplicate my music to Android, I use another app which I think if I introduce, both get some privilege.
#20
Synctoy, FreeFileSync,AllwaySync.
Any comments which is the easiest,best,etc.
Any comparison for the above?
It might help those of us who are newbies
#21
nekoangel
i think snyc might be for me then.
i dont need loads of different back ups just a copy of everyhting those folders contains. its the media i use in plex from my pc so its used often and then odd pics i upload etc. ive set it up to mirro changes from pc to external but do you think a back up is better ? id hate to have to rip hours of things back again if i were to lose the main media drive.

I would always go for a backup system unless you're working on both sets of files (and in that situation I'd have a backup in addition).

Especially on an external drive. For media it may be something you never end up needing but space is there to be used and you lose nothing by filling it up with older copies just in case.

EN1GMA
chocci
easeus todo backup free is the best I have used with freefilesync second ( I use easus for daily incremental and freefilesync for real time crucial folders sync)http://www.easeus.com/backup-software/tb-free.htmlhttp://www.freefilesync.org/
why is using software better than simply copy and pasting from pc to say a external hdd? genuine question chocs <3

Lots of reasons, a big one is because it'll do incremental backups automatically. It'll only back up the files that have changed since the last backup. You can do that yourself but it takes a bit of time and compared to just copy and pasting everything it transfers much faster and takes up less storage space (or lets you keep backups longer in the same amount of storage space).

davening
Synctoy, FreeFileSync,AllwaySync.
Any comments which is the easiest,best,etc.
Any comparison for the above?
It might help those of us who are newbies

I've never used the other two so I can't speak for them but synctoy is purely a sync utility, so you can discount it for backup purposes.

I use the Windows 10 file history backup which does a good job. The only downside I've seen so far is that it would take a little effort to restore the backup to a non-windows machine. I can't see myself moving away from Windows in the forseeable future though, so that's not an issue for me.
#22
EndlessWaves
nekoangel
i think snyc might be for me then.
i dont need loads of different back ups just a copy of everyhting those folders contains. its the media i use in plex from my pc so its used often and then odd pics i upload etc. ive set it up to mirro changes from pc to external but do you think a back up is better ? id hate to have to rip hours of things back again if i were to lose the main media drive.
I would always go for a backup system unless you're working on both sets of files (and in that situation I'd have a backup in addition).
Especially on an external drive. For media it may be something you never end up needing but space is there to be used and you lose nothing by filling it up with older copies just in case.
EN1GMA
chocci
easeus todo backup free is the best I have used with freefilesync second ( I use easus for daily incremental and freefilesync for real time crucial folders sync)http://www.easeus.com/backup-software/tb-free.htmlhttp://www.freefilesync.org/
why is using software better than simply copy and pasting from pc to say a external hdd? genuine question chocs <3
Lots of reasons, a big one is because it'll do incremental backups automatically. It'll only back up the files that have changed since the last backup. You can do that yourself but it takes a bit of time and compared to just copy and pasting everything it transfers much faster and takes up less storage space (or lets you keep backups longer in the same amount of storage space).
davening
Synctoy, FreeFileSync,AllwaySync.
Any comments which is the easiest,best,etc.
Any comparison for the above?
It might help those of us who are newbies
I've never used the other two so I can't speak for them but synctoy is purely a sync utility, so you can discount it for backup purposes.
I use the Windows 10 file history backup which does a good job. The only downside I've seen so far is that it would take a little effort to restore the backup to a non-windows machine. I can't see myself moving away from Windows in the forseeable future though, so that's not an issue for me.


i cant get windows file history to work, it just force closes itself once you set up a drive so you cant check on its status.

ive made the sync now so that will tide me over while i look at back up software. its so hard deciding which one is right to use.
#23
I take a full drive image using Paragon 14 backup and restore (free for personal use) then use synctoy regularly to backup my data. On total drive failure restore the image then reverse sync from synctoy data and the system is back.
#24
If you want to keep multiple versions in synctoy create a new sync group for each version you want, say one group for each week in a month. Then run each sync group separately as necessary. The first run of a group will always take a long time but subsequent runs are quick as only changes are copied over.

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