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Ford Focus Automatic

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Having recovered adequately from a stroke I decided to opt for the ease and comfort of an automatic car. However, I was slightly shocked yesterday to find that on a gradient that the Focus when I took… Read More
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2y, 7m agoPosted 2 years, 7 months ago
Having recovered adequately from a stroke I decided to opt for the ease and comfort of an automatic car. However, I was slightly shocked yesterday to find that on a gradient that the Focus when I took my foot off the brake started rolling backwards. Previous experience of autos suggest that the car would either stay in one place or crawl forwards. Ford have suggested that their new design renders the cars more like a semi automatic in this scenario and they should be treated like a manual; handbrake etc. So my question, ''is my expectations of an automatic car too much, outdated ,incorrect or reasonable?
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2y, 7m agoPosted 2 years, 7 months ago
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#1
All cars are different and you should apply the handbrake when stationary anyway.
#2
I've never driven an auto that's rolled back on a gradient, although I've never driven an automatic Ford before.

I usually drive manual but I would have thought not rolling back would be one of the major benefits of an auto. Personally I wouldn't buy an auto like that.
#3
Surprised to read that. On a manual you'd probably have 'hill start assist' which would tend to stop it rolling backward when you momentarily take your foot off the brake to start moving forwards.
#4
When you say "auto" do you mean an "automated clutch" known at Ford as POWERSHIFT.

IF so then they will roll back, these are not really automatics that any auto driver would be familiar with, they are really like manual gearboxes worked by a computer. You can apply the accelerator slightly in these cars to hold or most have "auto off" handbrakes so its a case of clicking the hand brake on.

Normal autos can get caught out, it just depends on how you stop and of course, gravity vs the torque converter.

Your expectation of an automatic car is correct, but you did not really by an automatic. Cars with automated clutched are clearly marked as such in other countries as not confuse people, they really not the same.

Edited By: groenleader on Dec 03, 2014 15:50
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Automatic clutch is what you have as suggested above.
#6
groenleader
When you say "auto" do you mean an "automated clutch" known at Ford as POWERSHIFT. IF so then they will roll back, these are not really automatics that any auto driver would be familiar with, they are really like manual gearboxes worked by a computer. You can apply the accelerator slightly in these cars to hold or most have "auto off" handbrakes so its a case of clicking the hand brake on.Normal autos can get caught out, it just depends on how you stop and of course, gravity vs the torque converter.Your expectation of an automatic car is correct, but you did not really by an automatic. Cars with automated clutched are clearly marked as such in other countries as not confuse people, they really not the same.

Yep I have the 1.6 version and this has a "proper" automatic box but I pay for it by the road tax being higher
#7
Re: groenleader Unfortunately, you are correct. Unknown to me I did get the ' powershift' but was sold to me as an automatic. I had no idea of the differences and am paying the price for not doing any research. I appreciate your response which has clarified my situation.
#8
Hate the automatic clutch.
almost impossible to have a nice smooth drive in the things.
apart from the fuel saving and cheaper tax do offset the bad drive.
I did get used to the hill starts in the end , to stop it rolling back you just need to get the revs spot on.
It will engage the clutch to biting point at certain rpm , it just takes practice (and unnecessary effort!)

but then I wouldn't recommend a normal auto with a small engine either.
probably better off with the one you have, they get better as you get used to the quirks.
#9
I run one of the biggest company car fleets in the UK and over see multiple smaller operations in the EU and Pacific NW of the USA and one my biggest head aches is complains from staff who have ended up with dual clutch/automated clutch transmissions.

Manuals are/can be jerky so people who move from manual to "robotised clutches" are less effected then your normal auto driver.

A number of new automatics (torque converters) are fitted to newer cars and work really well. They basically use less fluid then they use to which reduces weight and extra gears (I believe BMW's is an 8 speed, Mitsubishis is a 6) improves economy and speed.

Although a few people complain about CVT's there are some nice ones on the markets. Yes they do drive a little different but they never make a physically shift which means they are endlessly smooth! There are the band types (now they are metal) and there are the single planetary types which are excellent.
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Appreciate all of the replies.

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