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With 4k, hdrand 1000 nits brightness the topic on everyone lip this days, I am curious to know out of 4k hdr tv and 1080p projector: which would you go for and why? Read More
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6m, 4d agoPosted 6 months, 4 days ago
With 4k, hdrand 1000 nits brightness the topic on everyone lip this days, I am curious to know out of 4k hdr tv and 1080p projector: which would you go for and why?
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6m, 4d agoPosted 6 months, 4 days ago
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#1
4k TV all the way, no projector is going to ever look as good.
Projector is only good for having a huge screen and you have to make sure your rooms pitch black. Also a good pull down screen, projecting on a wall you'll get to many imperfection showing.
What size tele you looking? 65"?
I got sent out a portable projector a couple of weeks ago to review, its a cool piece of kit if you want something to mess about with but the qualitys never going to be as nice as a tele
#2
Toon_army
4k TV all the way, no projector is going to ever look as good.
Projector is only good for having a huge screen and you have to make sure your rooms pitch black. Also a good pull down screen, projecting on a wall you'll get to many imperfection showing.
What size tele you looking? 65"?
I got sent out a portable projector a couple of weeks ago to review, its a cool piece of kit if you want something to mess about with but the qualitys never going to be as nice as a tele
55 inches I am thinking off getting. Looking at hisense m7000 or m6600.

Have a look at this and tell me please if this is possible.
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Edited By: ibl0010 on Jan 22, 2017 13:56
#3
What ever that link is you've added it wrong lol.

I can't comment on the Hisense TV's I only buy Samsung now, I did like LG but had two TV's fail on me so gave up.
If your wanting 4k the benefits are on bigger screens of 60"+ where you'll notice a big different in that to 1080p
I've currently got a 1080p 55" but going 65"+ next
#4
Toon_army
What ever that link is you've added it wrong lol.
I can't comment on the Hisense TV's I only buy Samsung now, I did like LG but had two TV's fail on me so gave up.
If your wanting 4k the benefits are on bigger screens of 60"+ where you'll notice a big different in that to 1080p
I've currently got a 1080p 55" but going 65"+ next
Can this difference in 1080p and 4k on a 55inches be noticed if one sit a lot closer to the TV.
#5
I have a Optima HD151X and the sheer size outweighs any quality gains for me!
At the minute I have a 100+ inch wall painted with projector screen paint (actually a Home Made Mix!)
I have just bought an electric 120" screen for £80 from Amazon so will see how that is once I move house.

Yes picture quality is not the same but I have a cinema at home and its awesome. Size or Quality is what it comes down to. Personally I have no 4K things to watch anyway :P

BTW I am sitting here with lights on and the screen is still 90% the same and fully watchable so pitch black is NOT true.

Edited By: djjinx1 on Jan 22, 2017 17:08
#6
Toon_army
4k TV all the way, no projector is going to ever look as good.
Projector is only good for having a huge screen and you have to make sure your rooms pitch black. Also a good pull down screen, projecting on a wall you'll get to many imperfection showing.
What size tele you looking? 65"?
I got sent out a portable projector a couple of weeks ago to review, its a cool piece of kit if you want something to mess about with but the qualitys never going to be as nice as a tele


As djjinx1 has already said having a pitch black room isn't a necessity, it may have been the case with older projectors but both my old Optoma and new Optoma work fine in the day.
#7
4K projector
#8
Bear in mind if you go for a projector, you also need to budget for installation of you can't do it yourself, for cables and an audio system of some sort.
Unless your room is huge just go for a TV. nothing looks more chavvy than a poorly installed huge screened projector in a small room.
#9
djjinx1
I have a Optima HD151X and the sheer size outweighs any quality gains for me!
At the minute I have a 100+ inch wall painted with projector screen paint (actually a Home Made Mix!)
I have just bought an electric 120" screen for £80 from Amazon so will see how that is once I move house.
Yes picture quality is not the same but I have a cinema at home and its awesome. Size or Quality is what it comes down to. Personally I have no 4K things to watch anyway :P
BTW I am sitting here with lights on and the screen is still 90% the same and fully watchable so pitch black is NOT true.
What's playing on my mind is that 8 feet is my max viewing distance using the section of tea room I wanted to use. This means I may only be able to get 80 inches screen size image which is not much bigger than a 55 inches tv.
#10
Does the higher the contrast of a projector is the better the picture quality. For example, Ben w1070 DLP has 10,000 contrast and Epson tw5300 LCD has 35, 000 contrast.
#11
ibl0010
djjinx1
I have a Optima HD151X and the sheer size outweighs any quality gains for me!
At the minute I have a 100+ inch wall painted with projector screen paint (actually a Home Made Mix!)
I have just bought an electric 120" screen for £80 from Amazon so will see how that is once I move house.
Yes picture quality is not the same but I have a cinema at home and its awesome. Size or Quality is what it comes down to. Personally I have no 4K things to watch anyway :P
BTW I am sitting here with lights on and the screen is still 90% the same and fully watchable so pitch black is NOT true.
What's playing on my mind is that 8 feet is my max viewing distance using the section of tea room I wanted to use. This means I may only be able to get 80 inches screen size image which is not much bigger than a 55 inches tv.


I have a 49" TV and an 84" image from my projector, the projector image is much larger. Remember the measurements are diagonal.
#12
ibl0010
Does the higher the contrast of a projector is the better the picture quality. For example, Ben w1070 DLP has 10,000 contrast and Epson tw5300 LCD has 35, 000 contrast.


What is the contrast ratio on a projector?

Contrast ratio in its simplest form is the ratio of the light reflected from an all white image and an all black image. So a projector with a 3000:1 contrast ratio means that the white image is 3000 times brighter than the black image.
#13
Projector all the way. Ignore the 'chav' comments, they're written by people who prefer to berate others who like larger screens. If you like a large screen, you like a large screen.

I have just come from 4K 50" to 1080p projection (BenQ w1070) and the enjoyment factor blows our family away, each and every time. Movie nights are epic, we seem to appreciate our viewing even more because of how much of a treat it is to view - and that's the point right? Enjoyment! 3D from my projector, given its producing a much larger image than a TV, makes effects leap off the wall.

4K had some perks, but it all seemed a bit futile after a while since the viewing size is what it is. Screens continue to get larger throughout the years for a reason....

I'll be going to a 4K projector in a couple of years for a few short reasons:

1) HDR is evolving (fair enough, it will continue to do so but it's too early just yet to purchase) and in my opinion, it's a mess - 4 formats on some flagship TV's this year, WTF... The betting that those flagship £2000+ TV's are using a fantastic iteration of just one of those HDR formats? We know the answer to that one... In a year or two we will see more cemented foundations.

2) Content is continuing to ramp, some may say exponentially at this point. I would like to see broadcasters at this level and I believe 2 years is the sweet spot.

3) OLED would be my only consideration for a 4K display at this point in the game, and I can't bring myself to do it for the reasons above. 2 more years....

Entirely your choice OP, just my 2 cents.



Edited By: alltaken123 on Jan 22, 2017 20:40: edit
#14
Do you have anything to use for the sound? Most projectors now have built in speakers but they're not good enough tbh. This may swing your decision as a projector install needs the projector itself, a sound bar/surround sound/av receiver & speaker package. Whereas a new TV would be a case of buying the TV and maybe upgrading to a sound bar etc down the line if you wanted whereas with a projector it's pretty much a necessity.
#15
Built in speaker is 10w on most sound enabled projectors - like a TV it's going to be poor audio. I use a 3.1 HDMI/Bluetooth soundbar for my projector, no different to a TV with a soundbar.
#16
alltaken123
Projector all the way. Ignore the 'chav' comments, they're written by people who prefer to berate others who like larger screens. If you like a large screen, you like a large screen.

I have just come from 4K 50" to 1080p projection (BenQ w1070) and the enjoyment factor blows our family away, each and every time. Movie nights are epic, we seem to appreciate our viewing even more because of how much of a treat it is to view - and that's the point right? Enjoyment! 3D from my projector, given its producing a much larger image than a TV, makes effects leap off the wall.

4K had some perks, but it all seemed a bit futile after a while since the viewing size is what it is. Screens continue to get larger throughout the years for a reason....

I'll be going to a 4K projector in a couple of years for a few short reasons:

1) HDR is evolving (fair enough, it will continue to do so but it's too early just yet to purchase) and in my opinion, it's a mess - 4 formats on some flagship TV's this year, WTF... The betting that those flagship £2000+ TV's are using a fantastic iteration of just one of those HDR formats? We know the answer to that one... In a year or two we will see more cemented foundations.

2) Content is continuing to ramp, some may say exponentially at this point. I would like to see broadcasters at this level and I believe 2 years is the sweet spot.

3) OLED would be my only consideration for a 4K display at this point in the game, and I can't bring myself to do it for the reasons above. 2 more years....

Entirely your choice OP, just my 2 cents.




You've misunderstood me, I love a big screen and have professionally fitted plenty over 5m wide in a past life. What I deem chavvy is when people throw up a screen as big as they can fit in a small room, plonk a projector on a shelf, have cables trailing up walls, don't even attempt to get the image square and end up sat so close to a huge image that they're having to move their heads to follow any action.
A well installed, well planned system that fits the room it's in is awesome.
#17
Also remember if you go for a projector, they usually have a max of 2 HDMI ports. If his isn't enough for your sources you'll either need an HDMI switch or an av receiver.
#18
just buy both don't be tight :D
#19
bracey100
just buy both don't be tight :D
I would need both if I got projector route as you can't just have projector on all day. Need to replace my old 720p TV any way.
#20
alltaken123
Projector all the way. Ignore the 'chav' comments, they're written by people who prefer to berate others who like larger screens. If you like a large screen, you like a large screen.

I have just come from 4K 50" to 1080p projection (BenQ w1070) and the enjoyment factor blows our family away, each and every time. Movie nights are epic, we seem to appreciate our viewing even more because of how much of a treat it is to view - and that's the point right? Enjoyment! 3D from my projector, given its producing a much larger image than a TV, makes effects leap off the wall.

4K had some perks, but it all seemed a bit futile after a while since the viewing size is what it is. Screens continue to get larger throughout the years for a reason....

I'll be going to a 4K projector in a couple of years for a few short reasons:

1) HDR is evolving (fair enough, it will continue to do so but it's too early just yet to purchase) and in my opinion, it's a mess - 4 formats on some flagship TV's this year, WTF... The betting that those flagship £2000+ TV's are using a fantastic iteration of just one of those HDR formats? We know the answer to that one... In a year or two we will see more cemented foundations.

2) Content is continuing to ramp, some may say exponentially at this point. I would like to see broadcasters at this level and I believe 2 years is the sweet spot.

3) OLED would be my only consideration for a 4K display at this point in the game, and I can't bring myself to do it for the reasons above. 2 more years....

Entirely your choice OP, just my 2 cents.


Nice to read your views on both
#21
bp2411
Do you have anything to use for the sound? Most projectors now have built in speakers but they're not good enough tbh. This may swing your decision as a projector install needs the projector itself, a sound bar/surround sound/av receiver & speaker package. Whereas a new TV would be a case of buying the TV and maybe upgrading to a sound bar etc down the line if you wanted whereas with a projector it's pretty much a necessity.
I had surround sound before but got rid of it when I moved but will probably get surround sound again

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