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mickthecook Avatar
2y, 5m agoPosted 2 years, 5 months ago
Can I have a flueless fire fitted to my living room the size is 31.6msq fire is 2.7kw I've had plenty of conflicting advise so I'm sure someone out there can help thanks
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2y, 5m agoPosted 2 years, 5 months ago
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#1
What and from who advice have you got already
#2
You need to smoke bomb test the chimney.
you will need some form of connecting the wood burner to the chimney so you don't smoke out the living room.
getting a company to do it might be tricky cis they don't like signing new installations without a liner being dropped down.
#3
gr8t1
You need to smoke bomb test the chimney.
you will need some form of connecting the wood burner to the chimney so you don't smoke out the living room.
getting a company to do it might be tricky cis they don't like signing new installations without a liner being dropped down.

Isn't a flueless fire a fire that doesnt need a chimney? Plus where does OP mention a wood burner?
Maybe i missed a thread by OP that had more info on it.
#4
Shud read question fully. Just thought they were experiencing the same issues i had
#5
The requirement for a 100cm2 vent means you basically have a 10cm x 10cm hole in your wall to the outside. The vents are baffled so you don't get noticable drafts as such but it still means a lot of cold air coming in in the winter. Modern Flueless fires have safety feature to shut the fire off if they detect too much CO2 but I personally wouldn't trust it and would by an addition CO2 alarm if I had no choice but buy a flueless fire. Given the choice though I wouldn't have one. I would rather have an electric fire or pay to have a flue fitted.

Edited By: ZaphodBeeblebrox on Jul 10, 2014 22:00
#6
Flueless fires are great 100% of the heat stays in the room.
#7
markvirgo
Flueless fires are great 100% of the heat stays in the room.

While that is true you also get a not insigificant amount of cold air from the vent into the room which pretty much negates the efficiency gain. Modern Balanced flue fires are up to 95% efficient.
#8
I would listen to zaphod as he has 2 heads
#9
All gas fires have to have the vent. Any fire with a flue or chimney expels x amount of heat loss through it.
#10
All of the above advice except from ZaphodBeeblebrox is absolutely wrong!

The best thing you can do is obtain the manufacturers instruction book for the fire and see exactly what the requirements are. Most likely it will be a 100cm2 vent to outside air. Gaps in the vent will have to be between 5 - 15mm so you can't really baffle it and it will be cold in the winter

The fire has a catalytic converter to get rid of the fumes so you do not need a chimney, but as a result the instructions will state a maximum running time.

I am seeing more and more of these (i'm a gas engineer) and although the logic seems great - no chimney required and look pretty good, you would be much better getting an electric fire put in if you don't have a chimney. These things are just hassle!
#11
Cheers for all response fire now getting fitted Monday I'll let u now how it goes never fancied electric as to dear to run but as our flue wasn't getting rid in the uptake it was new flue etc or flueless so ive gone for latter thanks all again
#12
mjccam
All of the above advice except from ZaphodBeeblebrox is absolutely wrong!

The best thing you can do is obtain the manufacturers instruction book for the fire and see exactly what the requirements are. Most likely it will be a 100cm2 vent to outside air. Gaps in the vent will have to be between 5 - 15mm so you can't really baffle it and it will be cold in the winter

The fire has a catalytic converter to get rid of the fumes so you do not need a chimney, but as a result the instructions will state a maximum running time.

I am seeing more and more of these (i'm a gas engineer) and although the logic seems great - no chimney required and look pretty good, you would be much better getting an electric fire put in if you don't have a chimney. These things are just hassle!

So all gas fires don't need a air vent? Flueless fires don't waste heat up a chimney?

I have a flueless fire now and had one in my last house so I think I know what I am talking about.
#13
You probably can have it fitted. Most engineers stay clear though
#14
Markvirgo,
Not all gas fires require ventilation. Most open flued gas fires up to 7kw don't require any.
#15
I hope it's ok thanks again

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