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Help with buying a Dell PC, pretty please with a cherry on top :)

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8y, 4m agoPosted 8 years, 4 months ago
Hi, I was wondering if anyone can give me some advice on a new Dell PC I have my eye on. I've been looking on the business site and have my eye on this Vostro 410.

PROCESSOR Intel® Core2 Quad Q9300 Processor (2.50GHz, 1333MHz, 6MB cache)
OS Genuine Windows Vista Home Premium with Service Pack 1, 32-bit - English
MEMORY 3072MB 800MHz Dual Channel DDR2 SDRAM [2x1024 + 2x512]
HARD DRIVE 500GB (7200rpm) Serial ATA Hard Drive with 16MB DataBurst cache
GRAPHICS CARD 512MB nVidia® GeForce® 8800GT graphics card
OPTICAL DRIVE 16x DVD+/-RW & 16x DVD Drives
KEYBOARD Logitech EX110 Cordless Keyboard and Mouse

What I'd like to know is how much difference there is between that processor and this one:
Intel® Core2 Quad Q6600 Processor (2.40GHz, 1066MHz, 8MB cache)
obviously the latter one is much cheaper.

I want this pc for every day usage, but I will be playing games on it too, bioshock, FEAR, sims 2 etc, would the pc I have selected be ok for these?

the last thing is, if there is a big difference between those two processors and I would be better going for the more expensive one, is there any way to get a similar spec for cheaper? I only really wanted to spend about £400, this system works out at £511, not sure if thats a hot deal for what im getting. Are there any vouchers about I could use?

sorry for the simpleton questions, any help and advice is appreciated.

Chips xxxx
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8y, 4m agoPosted 8 years, 4 months ago
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#1
That PC is a bit overkill for what you want to use it for

As for the processor the more expensive one is to put it simply faster but for what you would use the PC for you wouldn't even get full usage from the cheaper one
#2
Hiya thanks for the info. :)

to be honest, I will probably do a lot more on it, better games and such. the pc I have at the moment restricts me LOTS, lol. so I do want to get one that kicks butt a bit. the one I have now is like 3 years old and its rubbish already, so would rather spend a bit extra now and have a pc that lasts me longer.
banned#3
doesn't sound bad for 511 quid achually, could try halving the hard drive to save money for the time being, and upgrade in the future.
#4
id go for the cheaper processor.. as the other one runs hotter as well. 1!! stick with the hdd in my opinion!! youj will rn out of space.. !!!
#5
Are you aware that the £511 price does not include a monitor?

It only includes the system unit, keyboard and mouse.

So no speakers either
#6
unileeds
id go for the cheaper processor.. as the other one runs hotter as well. 1!! stick with the hdd in my opinion!! youj will rn out of space.. !!!


The cheaper processor (Q6600) is based on the 65nm architecture, the newer more expensive processor (Q9300) is based on the 45nm architecture. So the Q9300 will run cooler, please feel free to prove me wrong with a link to a review stating otherwise...


Heres a good review of the Q9300 http://www.custompc.co.uk/reviews/192258/intel_core_2_quad_q9300.html like it says at the end, at stock speeds not much difference in performance, but £50 difference in price)

As for price, if you want things easy (and cant be bothered to do build it yourself) then its not too bad a price. Yes you might find something similar for a few £ cheaper elsewhere, but hey you could spend weeks doing that then something new comes out and prices change again (been there done that)

Its not really overkill, the Quad cores and the Dual cores are not really that different in price, would recommend a current ATI graphics card though (4850) same(ish) price as the 8800GT and faster. Review here http://www.custompc.co.uk/reviews/602844/ati_radeon_hd_4850.html Bear in mind that the 8800GT compaired in benchmark results is a heavily overclocked one (i.e. more expensive than the 4850)

One thing I will say is that Dell tend to use bits that are not always easy to replace, so you might find upgrades / repairs more difficult / expensive.

hope that helps... I always hate it when people put opinions on things and dont back them up with reviews...
#7
droitwichdosser
would recommend a current ATI graphics card though (4850) same(ish) price as the 8800GT and faster


the vostro i looked at doesn't have any options as far as the graphics go, it comes with the 8800gt. silly question, sorry but haven't shopped with dell before, but is there anyway to change it?

Thanks for your help guys :)
#8
guilbert53
Are you aware that the £511 price does not include a monitor?

It only includes the system unit, keyboard and mouse.

So no speakers either


yes i have a nice monitor that doesn't need replacing so I'm only looking for a base unit.

thanks :)
#9
my brother's computer has just expired (it was a Dell but years old) - so as i'm going to be the one guiding him, i've been looking at the Vostro 410 too...
the first thing that I would suggest it to possibly get it with as little memory as possible...
you mention getting 2x1024 + 2x512 - I would suggest getting just 2x512 and then buying the additional memory from elsewhere...
for example, to get the memory upgrade u want from Dell is £140... to buy it from Crucial would be less than £30... granted, you'd have to install it yourself, but its easy.... guess if you use Quidco with Crucial, you can knock 7% off... so that saving would take the end price to less than £400...
hope this helps.
#10
janus
my brother's computer has just expired (it was a Dell but years old) - so as i'm going to be the one guiding him, i've been looking at the Vostro 410 too...
the first thing that I would suggest it to possibly get it with as little memory as possible...
you mention getting 2x1024 + 2x512 - I would suggest getting just 2x512 and then buying the additional memory from elsewhere...
for example, to get the memory upgrade u want from Dell is £140... to buy it from Crucial would be less than £30... granted, you'd have to install it yourself, but its easy.... guess if you use Quidco with Crucial, you can knock 7% off... so that saving would take the end price to less than £400...
hope this helps.


Hiya, I know what you mean about the memory upgrades. the vostro 410 i was looking at has the 3 gig of ram as the lowest memory, can upgrade to 4gig. the other vostro 410's that have lower memory to start with also have lower specs on everything else and by the time i update it to match the one i want its a much higher price.
#11
ChipSticks;2676723
Hiya, I know what you mean about the memory upgrades. the vostro 410 i was looking at has the 3 gig of ram as the lowest memory, can upgrade to 4gig. the other vostro 410's that have lower memory to start with also have lower specs on everything else and by the time i update it to match the one i want its a much higher price.

sorry mate, I was working from the other end up - as my brother will not need such a high spec - or wouldn't be prepared to pay for it!
ok in that case, plan B would be to order over the phone and negotiate the config... perhaps reduce the memory for a better graphics card... even mentioning going elsewhere for the memory, may well get the sales guy/gal to drop the price -every little helps!
for my own part, i've just realised that my brother's old dell will have IDE drives, and the vostro will come will SATA, so my plan to rescue his two 400GB IDE drives and put them into the new machine may well not work... :thinking:
[helper]#12
I wouldnt even bother with dell, i purchased my pc in april this year and its broke! Shuts itself down, says problems with video driver etc etc, i paid £610 making the spec myself to suit me as i needed a really quick pc, and its broke!!! its a slow as a hedgehog! Currently in the process of geting a refund back via my card company! Contacted trading standards about um too! Apparantley they deal with alot of complaints regarding dell. As i purchased 3 years warranty and one part of my warranty is 5 business days whereas if they cant resolve problem over phone then in 5 business days they will send someone out to fix, and guess what it has been 36 days since i reported the problem and spoke to dell and still NOT FIXED!!! XXX
#13
well my brother has just been around and purchased a new Dell Vostro 410 online - probably not up to chipsticks' requirements(!), but its more powerful than the XPS I bought a couple of years ago - and half the price I think!
we've gone with 1GB of memory (i'll get the rest from Crucial) and a 500GB HD... just went with one DVD burner drive - seemed pointless getting a burner and a normal DVD drive... it would only cost £15 to buy a burner from elsewhere if it goes kapput.
estimated delivery date is the 14th - btw, there's free delivery until Thursday, so that was £20 saved.
#14
missgem
I wouldnt even bother with dell, i purchased my pc in april this year and its broke! Shuts itself down, says problems with video driver etc etc, i paid £610 making the spec myself to suit me as i needed a really quick pc, and its broke!!! its a slow as a hedgehog! Currently in the process of geting a refund back via my card company! Contacted trading standards about um too! Apparantley they deal with alot of complaints regarding dell. As i purchased 3 years warranty and one part of my warranty is 5 business days whereas if they cant resolve problem over phone then in 5 business days they will send someone out to fix, and guess what it has been 36 days since i reported the problem and spoke to dell and still NOT FIXED!!! XXX


i understand what you're saying, but you obviously got a duff. years ago when i bought my first ever pc I did loads of loads research to make sure i got a decent pc from a decent company. after reading endless magazine reviews, i went for one from a company called Mesh. that pc was the biggest pain in my derrière for 8 months until they finally replaced it and that pc still runs with the original hardware today, 14 years on! just shows, even the most respected of companies can send out the odd dud.
as for the customer service, sounds like youre gettin a bum deal, deffo complain!

:)
#15
janus
well my brother has just been around and purchased a new Dell Vostro 410 online - probably not up to chipsticks' requirements(!), but its more powerful than the XPS I bought a couple of years ago - and half the price I think!
we've gone with 1GB of memory (i'll get the rest from Crucial) and a 500GB HD... just went with one DVD burner drive - seemed pointless getting a burner and a normal DVD drive... it would only cost £15 to buy a burner from elsewhere if it goes kapput.
estimated delivery date is the 14th - btw, there's free delivery until Thursday, so that was £20 saved.


I would order on the phone, but then i miss out on 6% quidco... :)
#16
janus

btw, there's free delivery until Thursday, so that was £20 saved.


I've noticed they have free delivery and £50 off on the system I want. They both say "only 2 days left" on the vostro page, but once i get the system in my basket it says both those offers are valid until the 27th aug. I wont be ordering in the next 2 days, but if I do before the 27th and they try to refuse me those offers I won't be best pleased. I have a shiny 'print screen' to beat them with just in case the need arises. lol.
#17
ChipSticks;2678567
I would order on the phone, but then i miss out on 6% quidco... :)

oh c**p - I thought it just applied to home systems... oh well, he wouldn't have had the patience... and he would likely have asked me for the 6% back anyway!
i'm not paying for this - well apart from my time in installing and setting everything up when it arrives...
#18
ChipSticks;2678737
I've noticed they have free delivery and £50 off on the system I want. They both say "only 2 days left" on the vostro page, but once i get the system in my basket it says both those offers are valid until the 27th aug. I wont be ordering in the next 2 days, but if I do before the 27th and they try to refuse me those offers I won't be best pleased. I have a shiny 'print screen' to beat them with just in case the need arises. lol.

just had a play and it does say the 27th... unless its a typo and it should be 7th (which would be two days!)...
I think our two configurations are similar - except you have a better processor, a better graphics card and a spare dvd drive... but i was working to a smaller budget and it's replacing a 6-year old P3, so anythings gonna be faster!
there is the option of telling the sales guy you expected £25 from Quidco and can he do you a deal... worst comes to worst, he'll say no and you haven't lost anything...

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