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9y, 3w agoPosted 9 years, 3 weeks ago
Hi all,

I'm wanting to propose to my long suffering girlfriend and wanted to know the best place to buy a engagement ring.

She deserves the best so im looking for a platinum ring with medium sized diamond, preferably in a heart shape. Don't really want to spend more than £1000, but would do for something fantastic!!

I am taking her to New York to propose and would have time to buy it out there, so if anybody know any good Jewellery shops etc. However would prefer not to leave it that late!

I'm more than happy to get it from a US website/store to take advantage of the strong £!!

Also if there's any tips on buying diamonds please let me know, colour, clarity etc etc. I have no idea and want to get the best for my money!

Thanks in advance!!!

A nervous Biggy!!! :oops:
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9y, 3w agoPosted 9 years, 3 weeks ago
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#1
If you're taking her to New York you should look in Tiffanys! I know some of the rings there cost a mint but you might be able to find something in your price range and you can always browse the website before you go. Hope it all goes well!!
#2
http://www.hotukdeals.com/forums/showthread.php?t=81515&highlight=engagement

realfriendlyman with the cute puppy and kitty avatar made some good points about what to look for on this thread.
For £1000 you be def able to get something quite impressive.
Mine was £400 from Argos lol. Don't ask me why I'm engaged cos I can't see us marrying.
#3
Argos...

=]
#5
vengod
Argos...

=]



yeh knew someone would laugh about it.

http://www.argos.co.uk/static/Product/partNumber/2320537/Trail/C%24cip%3D1500006712.Jewellery%2Band%2Bwatches%3EC%24cip%3D1500006753.Rings%3EC%24Material%3D9ct+Gold.9ct%2BGold.htm

he did buy me something similar to that when he proposed the 1st time round when I was 16,infact it cost less than that.
Its not the price of the ring that counts anyway...
#6
Dude - defo wait till you're out in New York!

Mine cost me £1800 for a Platinum band with a Quarter Carrat.

However, £1k here is worth $2k over there, so not only do you have a the benefit of the strong pound, but Jewellery in general can be cheaper Stateside.

Might even worth popping in to Tiffanys with $2k in your pocket. However, am sure you can find a smaller jewellers that will give you more for your money!

Good Luck.
#7
Thanks so far, will check all those out!!

I forgot to but it can be white gold too!!

Would prefer not from Argos, would like something a little more ab-normal.....

Thanks, keep them coming!!!:roll:
#8
torapoole, thanks, would love to get her something from Tiffs, but really expensive!!!!!

I will check out the web site, see if theres anything!
#9
Thanx Natd,

Will check Tiffs, however agree I might get more for my money in an 'unbranded' smaller shop. Would like to get an idea of what I can get for my money b4 hand tho.

Know any shops with websites in new york I can look at?
#10
Ernest Jones have very nice platinum and white gold engagement rings; £600 upwards will get you an impressive ring from them
#11
apparentley it should cost 1 months wages (before tax) if you think anything of her at all !!
#12
make sure you look for:

a low letter for colour ... unless you're after a yellow diamond :-). But really, as long as it looks 'colourless', you're OK. anything below a number grade of about H looks colourless to most people.

high clarity - ie no obvious white patches (use the magnifying glass at the jewellers to check this - as some of them try to pass off some real tat)

and obviously as large a carat size as you can stretch to ... although having said that, the setting of the stone can make the diamond look bigger or smaller - but it IS the question that all her mates will ask her

If you are anywhere near to a 'designer outlet', it might be worth visiting it to see if there are any bargain rings ... I'm close to an outlet goldsmiths, and there are some real bargains there

Good luck - hope she says yes !
#13
ps, perhaps best not going for a shaped diamond - you'll pay a real premium for it, as a lot of a bigger stone is lost in cutting it down to the shape. just a thought ....

best to stick with a classic shape, as they never go out of fashion, and have little wastage so are cheaper
#14
http://www.macintyres.co.uk/

I bought my wifes ring in Macintyres in Edinburgh. They are much cheaper than High Street Jewellers. There may be something similar near you? She went for a platinum band and solitaire, wasn't cheap, she picked the ring before we knew the price!!

If you are going to New York I would suggest posting on a New York / US forum for advice on buying in NY. I would agree with the strong Pound you will get a lot more bang for your buck over there.
#15
Stick to the the 4 C's rule and you won't go far wrong.

http://www.4diamond.com/4Cs/

http://www.diasource.com/fourcs.htm

Buy in New York if you can.....it will be alot cheaper.
#16
Try here, found some good prices :)


http://www.thebeautifulcompany.co.uk/
#17
upto 12 months interest free to :)
#18
Cracking tips!!!!

Does anybody know of a NYC shopping orum I can visit to post there to ask the best stores to visit??

All the guide books just have the really touristy shops and therefore a rip-off!!!

Thanks for the help, im going through all the sites as we speak!!!!
#19
Hi,

It sounds like you have already had some great advice. I just thought I would mention a company my friend works for called 'Goldfinger'. Basically, they are a ring company without a shop! Which means they have much lower overheads and therefore lower costs. Their website is [url]www.goldfinger-rings.com[/url]. My friend lives in Reading, she sells the rings from wedding fairs, or you have the choice of coming to her house or she will come to yours. You choose every aspect of the ring so it is perfect for you.

I am sorry that was a little long winded, but it may be worth while contacted the company to see if there is anyone in your area or something similar. There is no comittment to buy the rings, just could be another option for you.

Good luck with you ring search, sounds like you ahve a romantic proposal planned!!
#20
Thanks r-monkey, sounds a good idea, ill try that!

Would like some advice on where to go in NYC to get the best deal. However even with the 4c's info I want somewhere reliable so I dont get sold cut glass!!!!

Anybody??
#21
rancidmonkey
Hi,

It sounds like you have already had some great advice. I just thought I would mention a company my friend works for called 'Goldfinger'. Basically, they are a ring company without a shop! Which means they have much lower overheads and therefore lower costs. Their website is www.goldfinger-rings.com. My friend lives in Reading, she sells the rings from wedding fairs, or you have the choice of coming to her house or she will come to yours. You choose every aspect of the ring so it is perfect for you.

I am sorry that was a little long winded, but it may be worth while contacted the company to see if there is anyone in your area or something similar. There is no comittment to buy the rings, just could be another option for you.

Good luck with you ring search, sounds like you ahve a romantic proposal planned!!


Little tip for your friend - get her to change the colours on the site ! The yellow is so hard to read, and the main text is not black enough :)
#22
ChrisUK
Little tip for your friend - get her to change the colours on the site ! The yellow is so hard to read, and the main text is not black enough :)



Thanks for the tip!!! I quite agree, although its not her website its her bosses!!!
#23
Hiya, just wanted to say hope it all goes ok with the impending proposal!

Are you the one who couldnt find a hotel at a good price?

What a man going to these lengths wish mine had LOL!
#24
Awwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww!!!! The OP's soooo sweet!! :)

I think everyone's covered most websites.... HSamuel have this for £799... £200 off... White gold with 1/2ct of diamond...
#25
amcol
Hiya, just wanted to say hope it all goes ok with the impending proposal!

Are you the one who couldnt find a hotel at a good price?

What a man going to these lengths wish mine had LOL!


Me too!!!!! :lol: She's a lucky girl :)
#26
Amcol-Yeah that's me, ive got it all the travelling sorted now!!

We went there last year and she really thought I was going to do it then, but being a typical man the thought didn't even enter my head!!!! Not making that mistake again!!Already contacted the Tavern on the Green (possibly the most romantic restraunt in the world!) and told them my plans. They are sorting our the best table in the house etc. Hmmm maybe I should say im going to propose at every restraunt we go to??? Guaranteed the best table!!! ;-)

Still needing some good tips though, im thinking I will buy in NYC to take advantage of the £ but don't know where to go????? Or a US web site, so I dont need to stress when over there, I will be stressed enough??? Any tips!!!
#27
Can i swap with ya girlfriend??? LOL
#28
No tips for shops in New York unfortunately, but a few things that I learned when I was shopping for a ring.

I went into a very nice jewellers (Mallory I think it was called, quite big) and they were very nice and helpful with coffee and everything and were able to expand on my knowledge of rings that I'd learnt from the net. Of course you go through the usual "How much are you looking to spend", "Ooo, about £900", "Ah right, well we have a very nice piece here for £1000".

Anyway, I found a design that I really liked but didn't like the price at all. Wandering around some other jewellers I came across Nicholas Wilde who is an independent jeweller and makes his own stuff. I asked him about the design and he was very helpful too. Designed and made a ring for me in about 3 weeks with a 0.25 carat G-colour, VS1 round brilliant diamond bar set in platinum. It came to about £1050 but he was able to do it for £950 if I paid the full amount upfront. Was very happy with the design and the setting allowed you to see the whole diamond.

With most of the large "high-street" jewellers, the diamond you buy may not be the best quality despite being larger. Most diamonds can be over 0.5 carats in size but have an S1 rating for large-ish imperfections or moving into the yellow colour band. Price does increase alot if you want a near flawless (VVS1 or 2) or white (colour higher than F) diamond.

I suggets looking at the independent people as they might be able to do you a good deal and offer free cleaning and resizing like mine. Unfortunately the engagement is no longer there, but I still have the ring. Best of luck finding the perfect ring, it's a rollercoaster ride but damn, does it feel good.
#29
xfire-Nice one pal.....

Ill look into that, ive looked at websites like bluenile, 101diamonds etc etc. They seem to be really good value. I pick the diamond I want, colour clarity etc and they fit it to the setting I want.....And all very good value!! Am I missing something here???

Advise?
#30
Anybody know any good NYC shopping forums, or a place that I can get a list of the Jewlers in NYC???
#31
I bought my Fiance's (now wife) ring through Blue Nile. Great choice of diamonds if you know what to look for and the quality of the setting was far better than expected.

I chose a platinum band with a 0.67 carat round diamond (G, SI1, GIA, Ideal cut). As it was a GIA certified stone (never buy an uncertified stone!!!) their gradings are slightly higher than other certifying organisations. No problems with the stone visible to the eye or under a magnifying glass despite being an SI1.

Mine cost £1100 (18 mnths ago) and I've since had it valued in Hatton Garden for £2900.

Delivery was very quick and customer service extremely good. I phoned to ask questions before purchasing and the adviser was very helpful.

One word of warning though is that the purchase is liable to VAT at Customs when you enter the UK after your trip (I found this out the hard way). Blue Nile do deliver to the UK where this is included in the cost.

Good luck.
#32
mrtootough
apparentley it should cost 1 months wages (before tax) if you think anything of her at all !!


You should pay what you can afford. Its the thought that counts after all.
banned#33
dont worry about the old addage of a months salary, or the current de-beers 2 months salary rule, its just a marketting con to separate you from more cash. The £1000 that you stated is more than enough.

I spent £450 on a ring and my salary was £605pm. I would recommend trying some local small jewellers. They are open to a bit of bartering (your girlfriend will never know). The ring I got was marked up at other mainstream jewellers for over £750, as noted I got it reduced from £600 to £450.

I love the idea of going to tiffany's in New York, the rate with the dollar at the moment gives you so much more spending power. Dont forget you can telephone tiffany's before hand and reserve a ring you like the look of from their website.

Remember that once you have the proposal over and done with, you will then have a wedding ring for the both of you to buy. Then after a year of marriage she'll do you for an eternity ring as well!!!

Also, whilst platinums ring are all the rage at the moment, they add £200 to £500 per ring to the equivilent 18 carat gold ring (they also look like a silver ring from a distance). Also think that this ring is going to be on her finger in 30, 40, 50 and so on, years time, will it stand the test of time in both strength and fashion design. You really cant go wrong with the old solitaire design, and will get a lot of diamond for your £1000 (or $2100)

Finally remember, its not all in the ring, its in the delivery. Remember girls like the 'wisk them off their feet' cr*p. Its corny, but great fun, take her to the top of the Empire State Building, or Grand Central Station, and get down on one knee there (actually do the chilvilrous, one knee stuff). Then wisk her off to a nice meal at Le Bernardin or another 5 star restaurant like that (remember you may need to reserve). Finally a helicopter ride round new york (from just $70 each (£32)), or even over to niagara falls would top off the proposal.

http://uk.tiffany.com/Shopping/Default.aspx?cookietest=1&assortmentid=201&originurl=%2fDefault.aspx&mcat=148203

http://www.allnewyorktours.com/Body.asp?mode=2&Page=SearchByModeCity&Type=AI&TY=AI&SearchName=Helicopter&eType=Activities&pref=02&aid=ltg1061&gclid=CMO1pvbh148CFSasGgodiwhw-Q
#34
Ultimo!!!

That is awsome, thank you soooo much!!!!!!

Just one thing, if I buy from bluenile.com and get deliverd to UK do I need to pay the import duty???

I would love to buy one in tiffs, but as somebody else says the first question she will be asked is 'how big is it' :oops: !
And i must be able to get more for my money elsewhere....??

Got a really good idea now thank you....

Still need more help though! I will have to start a blog after the event to let you ALL know how it went!!!
#35
:lol: as if someone sugested argos.

she'd leave you if you came home with an elizabeth duke engagement ring (unless she's scouse :lol:)
banned#36
biggybig
Ultimo!!!

That is awsome, thank you soooo much!!!!!!

Just one thing, if I buy from bluenile.com and get deliverd to UK do I need to pay the import duty???

I would love to buy one in tiffs, but as somebody else says the first question she will be asked is 'how big is it' :oops: !
And i must be able to get more for my money elsewhere....??

Got a really good idea now thank you....

Still need more help though! I will have to start a blog after the event to let you ALL know how it went!!!



I always forget the import duty (doh!) remember trusty old Amazon do rings, always worth a look http://www.amazon.co.uk/s/ref=nb_ss_w_h_/202-2607245-4298255?url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=1+ct+gold+engagement+ring

Also worth keeping in mind Tesco Vouchers are worth 4x their value in Goldsmiths. However Goldsmiths tend to be a little costly, but with the savings you might have in your clubcard account?

And Finally, again, do please tell us all how you got on :thumbsup: good luck

P.S. I love this one http://www.amazon.co.uk/18Ct-Yellow-Solitaire-Round-Diamond/dp/B000XU6V1Y/ref=sr_1_26/202-2607245-4298255?ie=UTF8&s=watch&qid=1194890433&sr=8-26
bit over the old budget though (1 whole carat of diamond, wow!)
#37
Thanks.....Any more????
#38
just enjoy the holiday in New York then come home and book a trip to dubai thrugh Airline Network and you will get a better deal
#39
biggybig
Thanks.....Any more????


Just want to wish you good luck, really romantic idea.

Our future SIL proposed to our daughter with a lot cheaper ring in a less romantic setting but our daughter was ecstatic, if your'e "the one" then she will be over the moon wherever you are and whatever the ring is like!:thumbsup:
#40
Just a thought but I remember reading about somebody who had an exspensive platinum dimond ring and the company also made him an identical ring in silver with a lab made stone so she could use that one everyday and if it got lost or stolen it wouldn't matter so much.

Imagine if she lost the ring at work or out on the ****.

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