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Hive 2 or netatmo

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I recently ordered a hive 2 and netatmo from amazon warehouse deals. I paid £92 for hive and £75 for netatmo. I am trying to decide which one to keep. I see that hive is limited to 6 slots per day…
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2m, 3w agoPosted 2 months, 3 weeks ago
I recently ordered a hive 2 and netatmo from amazon warehouse deals. I paid £92 for hive and £75 for netatmo. I am trying to decide which one to keep.

I see that hive is limited to 6 slots per day, can't provide much stats regarding boiler on time, can't do automatic scheduling, can't do scheduling based on weather data etc. All these are available in netatmo. The missing feature in netatmo is zones and hot water which are not essential for me right now, but may be useful as I am considering moving to a bigger property in the near future.

Can someone with either of these thermostats share their experiences to help me make a decision?
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2m, 3w agoPosted 2 months, 3 weeks ago
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banned#1
I've got Hive 2 and it's good. 6 slots per day is plenty. I've set it so that I get notification when I leave my home telling me the temp set and do I want to change it. I also have set it to receive a notification when I'm 5 miles from home to allow me to boost temp if required. What you'll find with these things is that you'll drive yourself mad with all of the specs and not use them. I don't understand what difference the outside temp makes. I set my overnight to be 17. If needs be the heating will come on to maintain that temp. The same applies during the day. Unless I'm mistaken isn't that just a gimmick
#2
Hive 2 is by far the best, I've honestly fitted hundreds of them, the service and tech help from BG is always going to be better as well. Other good thing there's a whole lot more apps coming for hive
#3
I have the Netatmo, all seems fine, works with apple HomeKit and it's own app, had no problems
#4
Thanks for your inputs.
BB_play - do you use the learning features of the netatmo? How do they work? Is the data provided in the graphs useful or so you not even need to look at them?
#5
Learning feature seems automatic, the graph shows room temp, set temp and boiler on time. I'm happy the way my systems running, very different to my old wireless stat setup.
#6
Thanks for the info. Hive only shows the room temperature in the graphs. Is the other data presented in netatmo useful in any way?
#7
The netatmo app has a demo mode, so you can take a look, theres plenty of info in the app FAQ section. I like the graph, its gives you a idea what happening and when.
#8
Thanks for the info. Just installed the app. Will have a look.
#9
cchopps
I've got Hive 2 and it's good. 6 slots per day is plenty. I've set it so that I get notification when I leave my home telling me the temp set and do I want to change it. I also have set it to receive a notification when I'm 5 miles from home to allow me to boost temp if required. What you'll find with these things is that you'll drive yourself mad with all of the specs and not use them. I don't understand what difference the outside temp makes. I set my overnight to be 17. If needs be the heating will come on to maintain that temp. The same applies during the day. Unless I'm mistaken isn't that just a gimmick


​I think weather data helps with learning thermostats. For example I set my thermostat to 20 for 4:30am so that it reaches 20 by 6am when I wake up. If outside temperatures drop significantly, my temperature will not reach 20 at 6am. I usually leave the night temperature at 15. So it can take a while to go up to 20. If the thermostat uses weather data, it will know that it's going to take longer to heat up. So will start earlier.

Also the temperature data is marked as planned feature on hive uservoice forum since Aug 2015 with a target date of summer 2016. Not sure when this will be delivered.

Edited By: VBV on Dec 06, 2016 07:39: typo
#10
cchopps
I've got Hive 2 and it's good. 6 slots per day is plenty. I've set it so that I get notification when I leave my home telling me the temp set and do I want to change it. I also have set it to receive a notification when I'm 5 miles from home to allow me to boost temp if required. What you'll find with these things is that you'll drive yourself mad with all of the specs and not use them. I don't understand what difference the outside temp makes. I set my overnight to be 17. If needs be the heating will come on to maintain that temp. The same applies during the day. Unless I'm mistaken isn't that just a gimmick


I dont really understand what's main differnce between these and normal thermostat controllers they can do upto 6 programmes are day and have the early temperature boost thing. surely if u want ur house at a certain temperature u don't need a app to tell a thermostat to turn on u can just programme it and if u need change something for any odd days u can do it manually.
#11
For me it's just a hobby. I didn't have a room thermostat to start with. So wanted to buy one and try installing it myself. Integrate it with echo.
What I like about these is to be able to manage them when you are away and the additional data out provides about your heating system. Just trying to understand which one to get.
#12
Tado all the way
#13
VBV
For me it's just a hobby. I didn't have a room thermostat to start with. So wanted to buy one and try installing it myself. Integrate it with echo.
What I like about these is to be able to manage them when you are away and the additional data out provides about your heating system. Just trying to understand which one to get.

Mine works with echo, you can ask to set temperature to x or temperature up or down.
#14
dastrix
Tado all the way


​I consider tado too, but realised that I need to buy an extension kit to get it working for me as I don't have a wired room thermostat currently. This will be the most expensive option for me. So ruled out.
#15
So how much are these kits to set up?
#16
Recently they were on sale. Netatmo 100, hive 125. Now they went up. I paid much less as I got them from amazon warehouse deals. Hive arrived brand new. Netatmo will arrive this week.

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