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Anyone been in same situation? We are looking to go on holiday mid may which would mean taking our eldest (shel have just turned 5) out of school. Its a week before the end of term so is towards the… Read More
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6m, 1w agoPosted 6 months, 1 week ago
Anyone been in same situation?
We are looking to go on holiday mid may which would mean taking our eldest (shel have just turned 5) out of school. Its a week before the end of term so is towards the end of a term. Will we be fined for taking her out? Can they do anything else apart from fine us?
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6m, 1w agoPosted 6 months, 1 week ago
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#1
The answer where I live is always no.
#2
Nope. Just a fine.
We took our children away too last May. Called up and said they had a tummy bug and would probably be off the rest of the week. When they went back they told the teacher they went away, certainly I said in the half term :)
#3
yes £60 per parent.Unless you ask for the time off and get it approved,which is mainly a no unless you have a good reason for going in term time...other than that phone sick all week don't tell nobody your going on hol and don't put it on social media haha
#4
it entirely depends on the school and it might be OK if you talk to them as she's only 5 might be OK but if they let you off ok otherwise just pay the fine it won't cost more than the holiday cancellation for 1 child....and ensure them it's a one off and don't miss days off unless she's really ill....
#5
We'd rather not lie cos shel just tell them anyway X) she had a few days of before xmas but she still insisted going to school and ended up in hospital having tests so they know she was actually ill if that makes sense! Will only be doing it this once!
#6
I would have thought they couldn't fine you this academic year because legally children don't have to attend school until the September after they turn five. Could be wrong though......hope I'm not as I will be in a similar situation later this year
#7
Yes miducky you are correct until a child reaches the age of 5, it is up to the parent if hey want their child to go part time to school. Although having read the post I think she just misses this cut off.
You can try and explain you have a family wedding and see if the school are flexible. Especially with her being so young I personally don't see her issue.
#8
They can have 3 days off without the risk of a fine providing they've got good attendance for the rest of the year, It would go down as unauthorized.
#9
Try to take as little as possible, 5 days is alot.
If you can take off 2/3 days it would be much better, incase you need more time off in the future
#10
Mum2409
Yes miducky you are correct until a child reaches the age of 5, it is up to the parent if hey want their child to go part time to school. Although having read the post I think she just misses this cut off.
You can try and explain you have a family wedding and see if the school are flexible. Especially with her being so young I personally don't see her issue.


Shes 5 in april and my other daughter is 2 at the end of may so if we go before then we dont have to pay for her! Which saves us around £1500 so obviously going to go then! It should be on individual circumstances, shes only been off when she was really poorly, and even then she was still in school until she was kept in hospital so they know and saw she was poorly (she had an inflamed hip and was determined to go to school even though she was limping) and like i said earlier its the 2 weeks before the end of term so not at any important part of the year! x
#11
Mum2409
Yes miducky you are correct until a child reaches the age of 5, it is up to the parent if hey want their child to go part time to school. Although having read the post I think she just misses this cut off.
You can try and explain you have a family wedding and see if the school are flexible. Especially with her being so young I personally don't see her issue.


Shes 5 in april and my other daughter is 2 at the end of may so if we go before then we dont have to pay for her! Which saves us around £1500 so obviously going to go then! It should be on individual circumstances, shes only been off when she was really poorly, and even then she was still in school until she was kept in hospital so they know and saw she was poorly (she had an inflamed hip and was determined to go to school even though she was limping) and like i said earlier its the 2 weeks before the end of term so not at any important part of the year! x
#12
it should be fine for you to go ...just tell the school in advance the truth ...my sisters went few years back in July and told the school that it is harder to get tickets to come back in September...so it's better to miss a few days now...they didn't mind because they don't have anything they miss then and the academic year is near finishing...just make sure you don't take more than 5 school days off and with your child's positive record of not missing school only when she was actually ill should make a difference ....good luck and hope you have a great holiday
#13
Under current law, children in England must be in education from the term after their fifth birthday. But the law also allows for pupils to start school earlier. As a result, the vast majority of children begin their education by taking up a Reception class place at the age of four.

If your request for leave is unauthorised and you still choose to take your child out of school for a holiday or another reason, you may be fined £60 per child per parent, rising to £120 per child per parent if not paid within 21 days. If the fine is unpaid after 28 days, court proceedings can be initiated.

https://www.gov.uk/school-attendance-absence
#14
I dont even ask i just tell the school they will be off. Ive always closed uo in september for hols as its the best time for me to shut the business. Just goes dwn as unauthorised absence school seem fine with it but law mite be different in scotland
#15
If you look into all the small print regarding fines, in my area it states in black and white that they can only issue you a fine if your child is off for 10 full sessions, which is 5 full days. I have still taken mine out but kept it under the fine issuing limit. Other parents that went for the full 5 days were fined
#16
I am in Scotland, no fines here. My kid's school have told us they are happy to have children taken out days around end of term as the appreciate prices can be a lot cheaper. I have a 5 and 6 yr old and will happily keep them off a few days.

I am a school teacher and know what goes on in most schools in the days leading up to end of term, so I doubt the child's education is disrupted.
#17
A sarcastic response I know, but at such young primary school ages I would love to ask their teacher which DVDs and board games they will be watching and offering to catch them up on my own!! TBH they don't even teach the kids in the last few days at our primary school so they wouldn't miss anything. Don't feel it's fair to threaten parents with fines when the aren't really having lessons at the end!!
#18
The schools give the authority all the info they need and it's down to them to decide whether to issue a fine. if your child's attendance is less than 98% then it might be wise to budget for the fine. we are taking my lad (5 in may) out for a week in June and his attendance is 99% so fingers crossed he doesn't get ill between now and then!
#19
One thing to remember is that the head has to follow the rules and has little choice in the matter, though now the rules are so cloudy with the recent court case it really depends on your education authority. It's the education authority that fines you and gets the cash not the school. Best way is to ask the school for advice and apply and be ready to pay the fine which would be £60 for each parent. If the head turns you down, you can appeal but the education authority will simply pass the buck back to the school chair of governors. Who like the head if they want to ensure that it won't come back to bite them in their next ofsted report has to again follow the rules, education authority are the only winners in the whole process. My wife is a chair of governors and spends so much time on these sorts of things, when really she started out doing it for the children but the buureaucracy means that there isn't much time for that :(
#20
Pazza315
A sarcastic response I know, but at such young primary school ages I would love to ask their teacher which DVDs and board games they will be watching and offering to catch them up on my own!! TBH they don't even teach the kids in the last few days at our primary school so they wouldn't miss anything. Don't feel it's fair to threaten parents with fines when the aren't really having lessons at the end!!


its not sarcastic at all... we think it should be on individual situations, people that take the p*** and do it all the time fair enough, we'l only be doing it this once, shes doing really well at school and loves going so wont be missing any school unless really needs too! Its daft really but...
#21
Pazza315
If you look into all the small print regarding fines, in my area it states in black and white that they can only issue you a fine if your child is off for 10 full sessions, which is 5 full days. I have still taken mine out but kept it under the fine issuing limit. Other parents that went for the full 5 days were fined


Shel be missing 12 full days, its either the £120 fine or at least £2000 more to go in the holidays oO
#22
ellese
Pazza315
If you look into all the small print regarding fines, in my area it states in black and white that they can only issue you a fine if your child is off for 10 full sessions, which is 5 full days. I have still taken mine out but kept it under the fine issuing limit. Other parents that went for the full 5 days were fined
Shel be missing 12 full days, its either the £120 fine or at least £2000 more to go in the holidays oO

I know what I'd do, I'd save £1880 ;). Enjoy your holiday.
#23
ellese
Pazza315
If you look into all the small print regarding fines, in my area it states in black and white that they can only issue you a fine if your child is off for 10 full sessions, which is 5 full days. I have still taken mine out but kept it under the fine issuing limit. Other parents that went for the full 5 days were fined
Shel be missing 12 full days, its either the £120 fine or at least £2000 more to go in the holidays oO

As I said earlier be ready to pay the fine that way you still save a small fortune, or you do the other thing and call in sick just a choice to make.
#24
I wouldn't hesitate in going, fine or not. Enjoy being able to as it is a lot harder in secondary school, not because of fines, it's just how much they miss.
#25
123batman321
I dont even ask i just tell the school they will be off. Ive always closed uo in september for hols as its the best time for me to shut the business. Just goes dwn as unauthorised absence school seem fine with it but law mite be different in scotland

In Scotland, there's no £60 fine. Instead local education authorities (LEAs) can issue 'attendance orders' to make a parent explain a pupil's absence – if parents don't comply or give a reasonable excuse they can be taken to court and could face up to one month in jail and a fine of up to £1,000.
#26
ellie27
I am in Scotland, no fines here. My kid's school have told us they are happy to have children taken out days around end of term as the appreciate prices can be a lot cheaper. I have a 5 and 6 yr old and will happily keep them off a few days.

I am a school teacher and know what goes on in most schools in the days leading up to end of term, so I doubt the child's education is disrupted.

In Scotland, there's no £60 fine. Instead local education authorities (LEAs) can issue 'attendance orders' to make a parent explain a pupil's absence – if parents don't comply or give a reasonable excuse they can be taken to court and could face up to one month in jail and a fine of up to £1,000.
#27
l received a letter from the school threatening us with a £350 fine if we took our kids out of school in term time, it was only 2 days and we asked in advance. Should have them go sick instead. Ridiculous.
#28
richardthompson79
l received a letter from the school threatening us with a £350 fine if we took our kids out of school in term time, it was only 2 days and we asked in advance. Should have them go sick instead. Ridiculous.


oO it is ridiculous, shel be missing 11 days of school because of time difference but its towards the end of term and shes only in reception its not like middle of her exams or anything! We'l have to wait and see, its booked now and will of cost £2000 more to go in the holidays or after our youngests 2nd birthday at the end of may!
#29
I think the issue is the hike in prices during the school holidays.
#30
I think the issue is the hike in prices during the school holidays.
#31
richardthompson79
I think the issue is the hike in prices during the school holidays.

its called supply and demand a lot of companies do it now they sell things for the highest price they can :(

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