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How can you get more information about the exact performance of the integrated radeon graphics on a number of laptops, where is it just listed a R6, r7, or r9 graphics, as opposed to what I think are … Read More
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7m, 4w agoPosted 7 months, 4 weeks ago
How can you get more information about the exact performance of the integrated radeon graphics on a number of laptops, where is it just listed a R6, r7, or r9 graphics, as opposed to what I think are discrete cards like the r7 m360? It seems very difficult to get an idea of how good these graphics options will be. Looking to get something along the lines of the above mentioned R7 M360 or better.
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7m, 4w agoPosted 7 months, 4 weeks ago
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Despite the almost identical chip design how they compare will vary between games because the integrated graphics shares it's memory bandwidth with the CPU while the dedicated memory on a separate GPU doesn't.

Although to be honest AMD seemed to have taken a leaf out of Intel's playbook and made the 3/5/7 labels meaningless. Even among the same range they can be wildly different.

Your best bet is to look up the details of the integrated graphics for the CPU in question. Wikipedia's List of APUs is quite handy The significant factors being shader count (the first number in core config), core speed and TDP.

Although memory bandwidth is also a factor, so if the laptop only comes with one stick of memory then it'll only run in single channel with half the bandwidth which will hamper performance (unless it, and you, have the ability to add a second). DDR4 is also slightly better than DDR3.

As for being equivalent. Notebookcheck's benchmarks suggest the FX-7600p from two generations ago was equivalent to the R7 M360 in some games (suggesting it's probably as fast and struggling with the shared memory bandwidth). However the newer chips are slightly slower, suggesting they're being limited by to their lower TDP values so they can go in the in-demand thin laptops that are the mainstream for Intel's lower power chips.

In short, I think you'll probably struggle to find what you're after. Any of the 512 shader AMD APUs could easily provide what you were after if they're allowed to run at their higher TDPs, but manufacturers are putting them into the thinner laptops designed for Intel's lower power U-suffix chips instead of the laptops for Intel's higher power H & HQ chips.

If you want something to surpass an R7 M360 you're looking at Intel's GT3 or GT4 integrated graphics. They're not exactly common themselves but they do have some availability.
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Despite the almost identical chip design how they compare will vary between games because the integrated graphics shares it's memory bandwidth with the CPU while the dedicated memory on a separate GPU doesn't.
Although to be honest AMD seemed to have taken a leaf out of Intel's playbook and made the 3/5/7 labels meaningless. Even among the same range they can be wildly different.
Your best bet is to look up the details of the integrated graphics for the CPU in question. Wikipedia's List of APUs is quite handy The significant factors being shader count (the first number in core config), core speed and TDP.
Although memory bandwidth is also a factor, so if the laptop only comes with one stick of memory then it'll only run in single channel with half the bandwidth which will hamper performance (unless it, and you, have the ability to add a second). DDR4 is also slightly better than DDR3.
As for being equivalent. Notebookcheck's benchmarks suggest the FX-7600p from two generations ago was equivalent to the R7 M360 in some games (suggesting it's probably as fast and struggling with the shared memory bandwidth). However the newer chips are slightly slower, suggesting they're being limited by to their lower TDP values so they can go in the in-demand thin laptops that are the mainstream for Intel's lower power chips.
In short, I think you'll probably struggle to find what you're after. Any of the 512 shader AMD APUs could easily provide what you were after if they're allowed to run at their higher TDPs, but manufacturers are putting them into the thinner laptops designed for Intel's lower power U-suffix chips instead of the laptops for Intel's higher power H & HQ chips.
If you want something to surpass an R7 M360 you're looking at Intel's GT3 or GT4 integrated graphics. They're not exactly common themselves but they do have some availability.
Thanks
#3
I normally look on YouTube for reviews
#5

Can you link the specific results because I'm not seeing any listings that correspond to recent AMD mobile CPU integrated graphics in that link.

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