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Hi around! Got this letter today! Is that mean hull people will have a choice for broadband supply? Read More
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2w, 15h agoPosted 2 weeks, 15 hours ago
Hi around! Got this letter today! Is that mean hull people will have a choice for broadband supply?
amarone82 Avatar
2w, 15h agoPosted 2 weeks, 15 hours ago
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#1
I have heard people say that hull is the worst place to live in the uk, which was also voted in national polls as such. Is this because it doesnt even offer a choice of broadband provider? Is this a real question?
#2
Hull currently does not have a choice of BB provider. KC Kingston Communications have a monopoly on the lines and residents are unable to go with other providers e.g. Sky or talk talk. I would be interested in this letter you have received OP! Can you upload it?
#3
mattbee12
Hull currently does not have a choice of BB provider. KC Kingston Communications have a monopoly on the lines and residents are unable to go with other providers e.g. Sky or talk talk. I would be interested in this letter you have received OP! Can you upload it?

I did not think that monopoly was allowed under uk consumer law?
#4
Well I don't know the ins and outs of it but I do know that KC own all the lines and you can't get any other provider (other than Virgin obviously).
#5
mutley1
I have heard people say that hull is the worst place to live in the uk, which was also voted in national polls as such. Is this because it doesnt even offer a choice of broadband provider? Is this a real question?
I've heard that said as well - but by people who've never been to Hull and tend to think that everywhere 'up North' is a bit grim!

One of my kids had 3 years at Hull Uni - I think it is a great place. An excellent city centre, preserving the old as well as several new retail developments and very friendly and helpful locals! I'm planning another trip this summer to see all exhibits for the 2017 City of Culture.

If I had to move from where I currently live I would seriously consider living in Hull.
#6
Van1973
mutley1
I have heard people say that hull is the worst place to live in the uk, which was also voted in national polls as such. Is this because it doesnt even offer a choice of broadband provider? Is this a real question?
I've heard that said as well - but by people who've never been to Hull and tend to think that everywhere 'up North' is a bit grim!
One of my kids had 3 years at Hull Uni - I think it is a great place. An excellent city centre, preserving the old as well as several new retail developments and very friendly and helpful locals! I'm planning another trip this summer to see all exhibits for the 2017 City of Culture.
If I had to move from where I currently live I would seriously consider living in Hull.

Manchester, Leeds, Newcastle are quite good. I certainly like Newcastle, where my husband comes from. Not been to Leeds or Manchester. I definately dont like Birmingham, although i dont think that is far enough north to be called north.
#7
as I understand it talk talk, sky or bt don't bother with Hull but they could use LLU (local loop unbundling) if they wanted. there are wireless alternatives
http://wisperbroadband.com/
http://www.purebroadband.net/
http://www.quickline.co.uk/
http://hull.connexin.co.uk/
so basically KC have a monopoly in Kingston upon Hull, year of culture 2017
#8
No Virgin Media either
mattbee12
Well I don't know the ins and outs of it but I do know that KC own all the lines and you can't get any other provider (other than Virgin obviously).
No Virgin Media either
#9
Paddy_o_furniture
KComms was set up to stop BT having a UK wide monopoly. The irony now.
LLU services aren't available in KC areas.
Are you sure? as Once upon a time, UK phone companies were much smaller and more scattered around the country. The majority of them were gradually absorbed into the Post Office Telephone Group - which later became BT. The network in Kingston upon Hull and its surrounding area, however, resisted, and has remained as a separate company to this day. What began as the Hull Corporation in 1902 is now known as KCOM.
I cannot see how they would set up a geographical anomaly as it doesn't address 95% of the country
#10
I've just read otherwise, but that's what I was told when I first started working for BT (now openreach).

HomeGuidesBroadband Broadband in HullMonday, June 5, 2017 By Kim Stapleshttps://images.hotukdeals.com/comments/content/LQQOU/31143725.jpgUp in Hull in the East Riding of Yorkshire, broadband works a little differently. There’s no BT, there’s no Sky, there’s no Virgin Media… instead, there’s KCOM.

The city of Kingston upon Hull has an entirely independent telecoms network that isn't touched by BT at all - it's just got the one fixed line provider serving the city and its surrounding towns and villages. Sadly, if you live in Hull, you don't have many broadband choices.

Why is Hull broadband different?Once upon a time, UK phone companies were much smaller and more scattered around the country. The majority of them were gradually absorbed into the Post Office Telephone Group - which later became BT . The network in Kingston upon Hull and its surrounding area, however, resisted, and has remained as a separate company to this day. What began as the Hull Corporation in 1902 is now known as KCOM.

These days, things are changing a little. KCOM can lease out its network to other providers through LLU ( local loop unbundling ) - though very few are renting - and there are other emerging providers, including ones that offer wireless broadband.

KCOMKCOM, also known as KC or Kingston Communications or Karoo, is the only fixed line network that covers most of the HU postcode. That includes areas like Hull, Beverley, Cottingham, Hessle, Willerby, and more.

You may recognise its cream-coloured phone boxes - a bit different from the classic cherry red ones in the rest of England.

https://images.hotukdeals.com/comments/content/ssNBv/31143725.jpgFrom KCOM, you can get broadband, home phone , and mobile deals (on O2 's network), and TV is on its way soon. On the plus side, its broadband is fast: 'Lightstream' packages - i.e. fibre optic - can reach up to speeds of 250Mb. However, fibre isn't available everywhere, and packages are more expensive than those in the rest of the country - especially as they have rather restrictive download limits.

(whole article knicked from https://www.broadbandchoices.co.uk/guides/broadband/hull-broadband )
#11
We're in Hull and have been with pure broadband for 5 years I pay 22.50 per month for unlimited broadband and it is a lot faster than kc
#12
I believe KC is BT to a degree, they use all the same equipment, and buisness structure, they send their engineers onBT/Openreach training courses, the two companies tend to mirror each other, when it comes down to it its just price that matters, copper or fibre are the two choices
#13
how to upload the letter? Internet offer is fromm talk talk, unlimited for £ 22.50 a month.
#14
they can offer a service as K COM cannot have a monopoly and Talk Talk will be able to rent the lines necessary from the incumbent provider in Hull and surrounding area
#15
they can offer a service as K COM cannot have a monopoly and Talk Talk will be able to rent the lines necessary from the incumbent provider in Hull and surrounding area
#16
amarone82
how to upload the letter? Internet offer is fromm talk talk, unlimited for £ 22.50 a month.

Take a picture on your phone then use a image hosting site like:

https://imgbb.com

Once you have a URL for the picture post again on HUKD, click the image tab next to the emoji icon and copy paste the image link. Quite interested to see the the leaflet myself, hopefully fibre included
#17
BarmyBulldog
amarone82
how to upload the letter? Internet offer is fromm talk talk, unlimited for £ 22.50 a month.

Take a picture on your phone then use a image hosting site like:

https://imgbb.com

Once you have a URL for the picture post again on HUKD, click the image tab next to the emoji icon and copy paste the image link. Quite interested to see the the leaflet myself, hopefully fibre included


fibre is £27 a month
#18
amarone82
BarmyBulldog
amarone82
how to upload the letter? Internet offer is fromm talk talk, unlimited for £ 22.50 a month.
Take a picture on your phone then use a image hosting site like:https://imgbb.com
Once you have a URL for the picture post again on HUKD, click the image tab next to the emoji icon and copy paste the image link. Quite interested to see the the leaflet myself, hopefully fibre included
fibre is £27 a month

That's ace!

Did you have any look uploading a photo?

Edited By: BarmyBulldog on Jun 08, 2017 21:35: .
#19
I live in Hull and often get leaflets through the door for Sky broadband even though they dont supply here.They are just mass mailing the country and even Sky CS dont even know they cant supply here.I guess its the same with that Talk Talk leaflet,they even had a call centre based in Hull which has now gone.Yes we are screwed here because none of the big providers will ever come here as the user base is so small compared to other areas.Kcom have the monopoly and Ofcom arent interested either.
Having said all that Kcom for me has been a great service just the prices are higher than other providers in other parts of the country.Cant wait for the Lightstream Fibre roll-out to my area,its all FTTH here.

Edited By: DracUK on Jun 10, 2017 07:34

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