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Have recently taken the plunge to upgrade my ageing desktop to a laptop. Unfortunately it will come with Vista, but I'll work around that. I need a suitable router to connect me to BT Internet, but I… Read More
kyalion Avatar
9y, 2m agoPosted 9 years, 2 months ago
Have recently taken the plunge to upgrade my ageing desktop to a laptop.
Unfortunately it will come with Vista, but I'll work around that. I need a suitable router to connect me to BT Internet, but I know nothing of the requirements of the router.
I have listed below the laptop spec, in the hope that someone will understand my predicament and help.

Many thanks in anticipation.

Base
Intel® Core 2 Duo processor T7700 (2.40 GHz, 800 MHz FSB, 4 MB L2-cache)

Memory
2048MB 667MHz Dual Channel DDR2 SDRAM [2x1024]

Keyboard
Internal Keyboard - UK/Irish (QWERTY)

Video Card
nVidia® GeForce Go 8600M GT with 256MB DDR2 dedicated graphic memory

Hard Drive
400GB (7.200rpm) SATA Dual Hard Drive (2x 200GB)

Microsoft Operating System
Genuine Windows Vista® Home Premium - English

Modem
56.6k V.92 Capable Internal Modem & Adapter - UK

Optical Devices
Fixed Internal 8X DVD+/-RW Drive including Software

Sound Cards
Integrated Sound Blaster Audigy ADVANCED HD Audio

Wireless Networking
Intel® Pro Wireless 3945 802.11a/b/g Mini-Card - Europe - Core 2 Duo Processors
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9y, 2m agoPosted 9 years, 2 months ago
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#1
I had similar problem in that i ordered a new desktop which came with Vista and would not work with my modem. I planned on changing internet providers as they all seem to give free routers to new customers, but when I rang my provider to cancel they offered a free router. So it maybe worth contacting BT and telling them you are thinking of leaving and why, they may offer the router to keep you.
#2
I appreciate your comments, and will certainly "attempt" to speak to someone at BT Internet. The problem might be that I only renewed my contract in Oct with them, so don't think there is the option of leaving, but will give it a go and report back. Cheers M8.
#3
Kyalion

thanks for the spec but its not a big factor. I'm an IT (semi) Pro, Apple and Mac based running a mixed network including CPU's, printers and an XBox (for fun) so a mixed bag of network cards and software on the same circuit.

The modem you want is a Zoom X6 - not a high street name but well known in IT circles. Out of the box it has lots of features and is very easy to configure through any PC/Mac and a web browser.

• It has Mac, Win and XBox support as standard

• fully BT compliant

• NAT (for hiding multiple [computer] IP addesses behind the single BT account)

• DCHP which means it talks to any network card on your internal LAN for you and assigns it an IP connection automatically. Works just as well for a single PC. Under Windows just go to the connection wizard and tell it to use DCHP and that was it for me - 10 seconds. Ditto Mac and the Xbox just found the setup itself and connected.

• built in firewall.... thats a physical one rather than just a software based one within the Windows or Mac OS. Essentially your PC's real identity is hidden from the world and you can change the default Zoom ID for something very unique if you want deeper protection.

• 4 port ethernet switch included so you can use the modem as a small network hub as well. Erthernet is the best way to go for any LAN - it was built for network connections including the Internet. Forget USB as a web connection - it's pants and slows you down. An ethernet card for your Win PC is about £10. They are built into Macs and XBox 360 by default.

• WiFi (several designations included) with 2 aerials and speed boosting technology built in for multiple device (i.e Xbox and laptop at the same time) access if you need it. N.B you can run ethernet and Wifi broadband at the same time if (like me) you have fixed units on a LAN and mobile devices.

• strong WAP2 security features for your WiFi

• 2 year warranty and you can add additional third party switch's plug and play in seconds as your equipment builds e.g. another PC or network switch without interupting service.

BEST OF ALL because it's not high street branded its actually cheaper than an inferior WiFi only Netgear or Belkin item and you can get one from PC World walkin stores or on online.

£49.99 although PC World have them on offer now with £10 off - I just paid £39.99 last week in Wakefield. An absolute steal with a half decent Belkin going for £70 in the same store.

N.B. - one last thing - make sure you try to give your modem a bit of air i.e. don't stick it on a carpet or a closed cupboard. If you do it wont set on fire but it will run hot and burn out in a yera or two - otherwise it should last 5 or 6 years at least. Great value.

best

:: P
#4
kyalion
I appreciate your comments, and will certainly "attempt" to speak to someone at BT Internet. The problem might be that I only renewed my contract in Oct with them, so don't think there is the option of leaving, but will give it a go and report back. Cheers M8.


Kyalion

just saw the additional post. Don't go for the FREE modem - its over complicated and poor in my opinion. The idea of giving you the free stuff like the modem is to multitask and try to tie you into over services such as wireless phones and TV Freeview.

All you have to do is call BT and tell them you just want the broadband line and you will provide your own modem. They may try to sell you another service for a moment - they are trained to do this - but they have NO Problem with you going solo technically. I've done it for the last 6 years with BT - none of their equipment inside my house.

The problems with Vista and memory are software based - an inherant problem with Vista compounded with a USB (modem) and software setup. Go the way I suggested - Ethernet card in your PC (it may have one) and an X6 modem and you'll get good speeds with no hangups.

I'm getting 8MB regular and 10MB on a good day - fine for all my families needs and sometimes 3 of us are on it with different equipment at the same time.

hers a link for more info: http://www.zoom.com/products/adsl_overview.html

::

P
#5
MG180ZS
Kyalion

thanks for the spec but its not a big factor. I'm an IT (semi) Pro, Apple and Mac based running a mixed network including CPU's, printers and an XBox (for fun) so a mixed bag of network cards and software on the same circuit.

The modem you want is a Zoom X6 - not a high street name but well known in IT circles. Out of the box it has lots of features and is very easy to configure through any PC/Mac and a web browser.

• It has Mac, Win and XBox support as standard

• fully BT compliant

• NAT (for hiding multiple [computer] IP addesses behind the single BT account)

• DCHP which means it talks to any network card on your internal LAN for you and assigns it an IP connection automatically. Works just as well for a single PC. Under Windows just go to the connection wizard and tell it to use DCHP and that was it for me - 10 seconds. Ditto Mac and the Xbox just found the setup itself and connected.

• built in firewall.... thats a physical one rather than just a software based one within the Windows or Mac OS. Essentially your PC's real identity is hidden from the world and you can change the default Zoom ID for something very unique if you want deeper protection.

• 4 port ethernet switch included so you can use the modem as a small network hub as well. Erthernet is the best way to go for any LAN - it was built for network connections including the Internet. Forget USB as a web connection - it's pants and slows you down. An ethernet card for your Win PC is about £10. They are built into Macs and XBox 360 by default.

• WiFi (several designations included) with 2 aerials and speed boosting technology built in for multiple device (i.e Xbox and laptop at the same time) access if you need it. N.B you can run ethernet and Wifi broadband at the same time if (like me) you have fixed units on a LAN and mobile devices.

• strong WAP2 security features for your WiFi

• 2 year warranty and you can add additional third party switch's plug and play in seconds as your equipment builds e.g. another PC or network switch without interupting service.

BEST OF ALL because it's not high street branded its actually cheaper than an inferior WiFi only Netgear or Belkin item and you can get one from PC World walkin stores or on online.

£49.99 although PC World have them on offer now with £10 off - I just paid £39.99 last week in Wakefield. An absolute steal with a half decent Belkin going for £70 in the same store.

N.B. - one last thing - make sure you try to give your modem a bit of air i.e. don't stick it on a carpet or a closed cupboard. If you do it wont set on fire but it will run hot and burn out in a yera or two - otherwise it should last 5 or 6 years at least. Great value.

best

:: P


This is the one, isn't it ? http://www.amazon.co.uk/Zoom-125Mbps-Wireless-G-Firewall-FASTLANE/dp/customer-reviews/B000IM544W/ref=dp_top_cm_cr_acr_txt?ie=UTF8&showViewpoints=1&customer-reviews.start=1#customerReviews
#6
MG180ZS
Kyalion

just saw the additional post. Don't go for the FREE modem - its over complicated and poor in my opinion. The idea of giving you the free stuff like the modem is to multitask and try to tie you into over services such as wireless phones and TV Freeview.

All you have to do is call BT and tell them you just want the broadband line and you will provide your own modem. They may try to sell you another service for a moment - they are trained to do this - but they have NO Problem with you going solo technically. I've done it for the last 6 years with BT - none of their equipment inside my house.

The problems with Vista and memory are software based - an inherant problem with Vista compounded with a USB (modem) and software setup. Go the way I suggested - Ethernet card in your PC (it may have one) and an X6 modem and you'll get good speeds with no hangups.

I'm getting 8MB regular and 10MB on a good day - fine for all my families needs and sometimes 3 of us are on it with different equipment at the same time.

hers a link for more info: http://www.zoom.com/products/adsl_overview.html

::

P


Thanks for the reply. What you say sounds really impressive, and one day I'll understand it al LOL :p

The reason for posting the spec was Dell said I should contact my ISP as this may determine the router needed, but I will take your advice over theirs.

It won't be delivered until end of Feb, so if the router is out of stock at Amazon, no probs to me for a couple of weeks.

You mentioned the Ethernet card. How will I know if it's coming with one or not ? And presumably if it doesn't, and knowing the spec of the router and system, which one is your recommendation?
#7
Hi Kyalion

Amazon link - yes thats the one but also check out PC World as they still have the extra £10 off offer on I think. The following looks complicated but its real easy - just take one chunk at a time. I taught myself so you can get it sorted I'm sure.

Ethernet
The ethernet is just another type of port on the side of your PC, like a serial port or a USB port. Using an ethernet cable plugged into this port, several PC's can be connected together on a small network. Printers and games consoles can also be added. This is often termed a LAN or Local Area Network. Microsoft call it a 'Workgroup' but then they would just to try and own it.

Your (broadband) modem also has an ethernet port and connects into this loop. Even if you just have one PC, its the best way to go for speed and reliability.

USB
Because USB ports are standard on virtually all computers some manufacturers use this as a network adapter i.e. for connecting to other PC's, consoles or the Internet. Really, USB is intended for adding peripherals like printers and hard drives so it doesn't do network traffic very well.

Ethernet included or not
On Windows, Microsoft and associated manufacturers like Dell try to anticipate your profile before you buy e.g. single home user, on the move (e.g student) or business user, and then give you a computer and OS which fits - that's why you get some PC's with ethernet and some without and also Windows in different flavours XP, XP Pro, XP Home Edition, XP Media Centre edition plus now Vista. So typically, domestic standalone PC's do not have ethernet because MSoft don't think you need it (no network so no network adapter) even though every Pro knows its the best thing for broadband.

Laptop Specification
The laptop features you have provided don't mention an ethernet port but they are high spec from what I can see - good Ram, upgraded graphics card, latest processors so I would be surprised if it doesn't have one. Just contact the people you are buying it from and ask them if there is an Ethernet network adapter included - if not, then how much to add one. If they just want to supply the adapter and not fit it, any decent computer shop or PC World can do this in a couple of minutes.

Wireless (WiFi) alternative
The Zoom X6 has WiFi as well as ethernet, i.e. wireless networking built in and so does your laptop. If you wish you can FORGET Ethernet and USB altogether and just set up your broadband without any wires or ports. The laptop and Zoom will converse through fresh air.

This sounds like magic but it's not as reliable as wires (ethernet) which is why Pro's run both. Its great to be roaming about the house with no wires but if you desperately need to get to your online bank account at 4.30 in the afternoon, its good to know you can plug the ethernet wire in when WiFi suddenly drops its connection.... and it does . Wireless traffic can be interrupted by microwave ovens, TV's, and even other WiFi adapters (say your next door neighbour if he has one).

So your still on course;

- X6 Zoom modem

- check laptop with seller to see if has ethernet port

- if yes great, if no add consider adding one (its cheap to do this)

- alternatively just go wireless and all you need is the zoom and your laptop as it stands

- tell BT, the account is fine but you just want to use your own modem - they will give you the IP settings and password that the Zoom will ask for in the set-up window.

I've done four of these last year for friends all with BT and the Zoom (I'll have to get shares in the company I think!) so I know it works well under Xp and Xp Pro. I cannot see Vista going backwards in terms of ethernet or WiFi as they are world standards.

::

P
#8
You are absolutely "top-drawer" and when the damn thing arrives, no doubt I'll be in conatct again. (Oh no, he says !!)
#9
intel pro wireless 3945. apparently I'm lucky enough to have one of these. Your thoughts ?
#10
kyalion
intel pro wireless 3945. apparently I'm lucky enough to have one of these. Your thoughts ?


If this is what they told you was the laptops network adapter than it looks like it's WiFi only i.e. no ethernet port. You will still get the benefit of the X6's features like the speed boost and security even if you go with this wireless setup and to be honest you would be hard pressed to find a WiFi modem with these features for less.

As I said originally I have never found the 'supplied' modems to be more than mediocre and sometimes so bad I've had to throw them so I would spend the bit extra and buy a decent one like the X6.

Personally I'd still look for an ethernet adapter for the laptop so that you can go wired (just a cable between your laptop and the Zoom) if you need to should the WiFi get some temporary interference.

::
P
#11
Thanks for this.

I took your advice, and have ordered the Zoom anyway. Once the laptop is here, I'll get someone I know locally to fool around with adding the ethernet adapter.

Have a good day, and I appreciate your help.

MG180ZS
If this is what they told you was the laptops network adapter than it looks like it's WiFi only i.e. no ethernet port. You will still get the benefit of the X6's features like the speed boost and security even if you go with this wireless setup and to be honest you would be hard pressed to find a WiFi modem with these features for less.

As I said originally I have never found the 'supplied' modems to be more than mediocre and sometimes so bad I've had to throw them so I would spend the bit extra and buy a decent one like the X6.

Personally I'd still look for an ethernet adapter for the laptop so that you can go wired (just a cable between your laptop and the Zoom) if you need to should the WiFi get some temporary interference.

::
P
#12
Apple and Mac based running....


Lol, there's some funny people on the interweb !!!!!

:roll:
#13
MG180ZS;1548125
Kyalion

just saw the additional post. Don't go for the FREE modem - its over complicated and poor in my opinion. The idea of giving you the free stuff like the modem is to multitask and try to tie you into over services such as wireless phones and TV Freeview.

All you have to do is call BT and tell them you just want the broadband line and you will provide your own modem. They may try to sell you another service for a moment - they are trained to do this - but they have NO Problem with you going solo technically. I've done it for the last 6 years with BT - none of their equipment inside my house.

The problems with Vista and memory are software based - an inherant problem with Vista compounded with a USB (modem) and software setup. Go the way I suggested - Ethernet card in your PC (it may have one) and an X6 modem and you'll get good speeds with no hangups.

I'm getting 8MB regular and 10MB on a good day - fine for all my families needs and sometimes 3 of us are on it with different equipment at the same time.

hers a link for more info: http://www.zoom.com/products/adsl_overview.html

::

P


Who's your ISP? and where you based? Just curious

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