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I'm confused! I've been out of the PC building game for a while now but the time has come to upgrade my straining system. I saw this SSD on ebay : http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/152504831364?_trksid=… Read More
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2w, 2d agoPosted 2 weeks, 2 days ago
I'm confused!

I've been out of the PC building game for a while now but the time has come to upgrade my straining system.

I saw this SSD on ebay : http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/152504831364?_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT

Micron Technology 240GB M500 mSATA SSD 6Gbps MINI-PCI-E MTFDDAT240MAV-1AE12ABYY

Can that be installed as a boot drive with Win10 installed? If so how do I know if my motherboard would support it? (seems crazy cheap for an SSD!)

Many thanks.
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2w, 2d agoPosted 2 weeks, 2 days ago
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#1
It can be used to to boot Win10 but you will have to see if your motherboard is compatible with the mSATA. If it isn't you can buy an adapter card. to use as a SSD or HHD.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/like/322307233882?chn=ps&adgroupid=39613511478&rlsatarget=pla-279121855881&abcId=923836&adtype=pla&merchantid=101461006&poi=&googleloc=9045509&device=c&campaignid=737386489&crdt=0
#2
McGloney97
It can be used to to boot Win10 but you will have to see if your motherboard is compatible with the mSATA. If it isn't you can buy an adapter card. to use as a SSD or HHD.http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/like/322307233882?chn=ps&adgroupid=39613511478&rlsatarget=pla-279121855881&abcId=923836&adtype=pla&merchantid=101461006&poi=&googleloc=9045509&device=c&campaignid=737386489&crdt=0

Thanks! That's brilliant, I thought that might be the only way as no msata slot on my mboard, would it then treat it just like an SATA drive?
#3
It is cheap, but it is mSATA, not a standard 2.5" SATA connector.

Do you have an mSATA connector? Most desktop motherboards don't have mSATA adapters and if you need to convert you will lose most of the cost benefit: https://www.scan.co.uk/products/lycom-st-168m-msata-ssd-to-25-sata-drive-converter-with-25-frame

If your motherboard does have mSATA then I'd guess that the BIOS would recognise it, although you might have to use UEFI rather than legacy BIOS settings with Windows 10.
#4
Looks like McGloney97 beat me to it! Once you use an adapter it should recognise it as a standard SATA drive.

Edited By: Spod on Apr 10, 2017 14:59
#5
Spod
It is cheap, but it is mSATA, not a standard 2.5" SATA connector.
Do you have an mSATA connector? Most desktop motherboards don't have mSATA adapters and if you need to convert you will lose most of the cost benefit: https://www.scan.co.uk/products/lycom-st-168m-msata-ssd-to-25-sata-drive-converter-with-25-frame
If your motherboard does have mSATA then I'd guess that the BIOS would recognise it, although you might have to use UEFI rather than legacy BIOS settings with Windows 10.

No I don't have an mSATA slot, the board supports SATA 3 6.0gb/s. Would converting it see a worthwhile improvement over the SATA HDD I currently use?
#6
The advert claims 500 MB/second read and 250MB/second write with 72000 IOPS on random 4KB read and 60000 IOPS on random 4KB write. That's not particularly quick for an SSD, but it should still be much faster than a standard spinning disk. Try googling IOPS on the disk you have to see how bit the speedup should be. (IOPS gives a far more realistic idea of disk speed than raw "internal" MB/s).
#7
Suggest proceed with caution. The unusually low-priced listing seems out of character with the seller's trading history, additionally: "Postage: Free Services from outside UK Item location: Dagenham, United Kingdom."
#8
Spod
The advert claims 500 MB/second read and 250MB/second write with 72000 IOPS on random 4KB read and 60000 IOPS on random 4KB write. That's not particularly quick for an SSD, but it should still be much faster than a standard spinning disk. Try googling IOPS on the disk you have to see how bit the speedup should be. (IOPS gives a far more realistic idea of disk speed than raw "internal" MB/s).

This is the IOPS for my current Windows drive - 7207.7I, does that mean I won't see much difference?
#9
AndyRoyd
Suggest proceed with caution. The unusually low-priced listing seems out of character with the seller's trading history, additionally: "Postage: Free Services from outside UK Item location: Dagenham, United Kingdom."

Agreed, I only just noticed the "outside the UK" bit. Having been stung before with foreign sellers I am not keen to be buying something so integral to my system. Hmmmm
#10
Satan_Claws
Spod
The advert claims 500 MB/second read and 250MB/second write with 72000 IOPS on random 4KB read and 60000 IOPS on random 4KB write. That's not particularly quick for an SSD, but it should still be much faster than a standard spinning disk. Try googling IOPS on the disk you have to see how bit the speedup should be. (IOPS gives a far more realistic idea of disk speed than raw "internal" MB/s).
This is the IOPS for my current Windows drive - 7207.7I, does that mean I won't see much difference?

Is that the 4K read/write IOPS rate? 60000 compared with 7208 (rounded to nearest whole number)? You should notice a lot of difference there!
#11
Spod
Satan_Claws
Spod
The advert claims 500 MB/second read and 250MB/second write with 72000 IOPS on random 4KB read and 60000 IOPS on random 4KB write. That's not particularly quick for an SSD, but it should still be much faster than a standard spinning disk. Try googling IOPS on the disk you have to see how bit the speedup should be. (IOPS gives a far more realistic idea of disk speed than raw "internal" MB/s).
This is the IOPS for my current Windows drive - 7207.7I, does that mean I won't see much difference?
Is that the 4K read/write IOPS rate? 60000 compared with 7208 (rounded to nearest whole number)? You should notice a lot of difference there!

Oops I misread your post as 6000! That is the average IOPS, that's all I could find on a quick google.

Yes that would be a lot faster!! oO
#12
AndyRoyd
Suggest proceed with caution. The unusually low-priced listing seems out of character with the seller's trading history, additionally: "Postage: Free Services from outside UK Item location: Dagenham, United Kingdom."
Yes, I'm smelling a rat too, wouldn't trust this one bit.
#13
Satan_Claws
AndyRoyd
Suggest proceed with caution. The unusually low-priced listing seems out of character with the seller's trading history, additionally: "Postage: Free Services from outside UK Item location: Dagenham, United Kingdom."
Agreed, I only just noticed the "outside the UK" bit. Having been stung before with foreign sellers I am not keen to be buying something so integral to my system. Hmmmm
Not sure if you have grasped my overall point. The UK-based seller has recently listed a Transit van. Now the same seller has listed qty 10+ mega-cheap mSATA drives available to be despatched from outside the UK... in Dagenham. Such situations could plausibly indicate hijacked account, hence suggestion to proceed with caution.
#14
AndyRoyd
Satan_Claws
AndyRoyd
Suggest proceed with caution. The unusually low-priced listing seems out of character with the seller's trading history, additionally: "Postage: Free Services from outside UK Item location: Dagenham, United Kingdom."
Agreed, I only just noticed the "outside the UK" bit. Having been stung before with foreign sellers I am not keen to be buying something so integral to my system. Hmmmm
Not sure if you have grasped my overall point. The UK-based seller has recently listed a Transit van. Now the same seller has listed qty 10+ mega-cheap mSATA drives available to be despatched from outside the UK... in Dagenham. Such situations could plausibly indicate hijacked account, hence suggestion to proceed with caution.

And it does seem too good a price to be true. It looks like the seller hasn't used the account for over a year and suddenly it is selling cheap goods from abroad. You are right. Definitely fishy.

Given all that I would avoid, but if you do want to go ahead, at the very least try to make contact with the seller first.If they make an offer outside the ebay system then definitely avoid. At least you get some protection when ordering directly through ebay with Paypal.
#15
Spod
AndyRoyd
Satan_Claws
AndyRoyd
Suggest proceed with caution. The unusually low-priced listing seems out of character with the seller's trading history, additionally: "Postage: Free Services from outside UK Item location: Dagenham, United Kingdom."
Agreed, I only just noticed the "outside the UK" bit. Having been stung before with foreign sellers I am not keen to be buying something so integral to my system. Hmmmm
Not sure if you have grasped my overall point. The UK-based seller has recently listed a Transit van. Now the same seller has listed qty 10+ mega-cheap mSATA drives available to be despatched from outside the UK... in Dagenham. Such situations could plausibly indicate hijacked account, hence suggestion to proceed with caution.
And it does seem too good a price to be true. It looks like the seller hasn't used the account for over a year....
Listed transit van within last two weeks http://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/j80j80/m.html?item=152504831364&LH_Complete=1
#16
Spod
AndyRoyd
Satan_Claws
AndyRoyd
Suggest proceed with caution. The unusually low-priced listing seems out of character with the seller's trading history, additionally: "Postage: Free Services from outside UK Item location: Dagenham, United Kingdom."
Agreed, I only just noticed the "outside the UK" bit. Having been stung before with foreign sellers I am not keen to be buying something so integral to my system. Hmmmm
Not sure if you have grasped my overall point. The UK-based seller has recently listed a Transit van. Now the same seller has listed qty 10+ mega-cheap mSATA drives available to be despatched from outside the UK... in Dagenham. Such situations could plausibly indicate hijacked account, hence suggestion to proceed with caution.
And it does seem too good a price to be true. It looks like the seller hasn't used the account for over a year and suddenly it is selling cheap goods from abroad. You are right. Definitely fishy.
Given all that I would avoid, but if you do want to go ahead, at the very least try to make contact with the seller first.If they make an offer outside the ebay system then definitely avoid. At least you get some protection when ordering directly through ebay with Paypal.

Yeah I think I will avoid, I did message the seller earlier and have heard nothing back so not looking good.

At least I have a better idea of what I am looking for now so cheers for the help.
#17
AndyRoyd
Spod
AndyRoyd
Satan_Claws
AndyRoyd
Suggest proceed with caution. The unusually low-priced listing seems out of character with the seller's trading history, additionally: "Postage: Free Services from outside UK Item location: Dagenham, United Kingdom."
Agreed, I only just noticed the "outside the UK" bit. Having been stung before with foreign sellers I am not keen to be buying something so integral to my system. Hmmmm
Not sure if you have grasped my overall point. The UK-based seller has recently listed a Transit van. Now the same seller has listed qty 10+ mega-cheap mSATA drives available to be despatched from outside the UK... in Dagenham. Such situations could plausibly indicate hijacked account, hence suggestion to proceed with caution.
And it does seem too good a price to be true. It looks like the seller hasn't used the account for over a year....
Listed transit van within last two weeks http://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/j80j80/m.html?item=152504831364&LH_Complete=1
Well spotted. Sorry I missed that one.

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