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Hi Guys Does anyone know the cheapest deal? With or without monitor. No decent Dell deals for a while now Thanks Rob
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9y, 10m agoPosted 9 years, 10 months ago
Hi Guys
Does anyone know the cheapest deal? With or without monitor. No decent Dell deals for a while now
Thanks
Rob
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9y, 10m agoPosted 9 years, 10 months ago
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#1
For an assembled system? Or would you consider getting the parts and building yourself?
Also, which OS? Vista or XP; if Vista, Home Basic or Premium or Business?
#2
Hi, probably alrdeay built, I really dont have time to try and build one myself. Would prefer Vista Premium
#3
What is your price range? Dual cores vary somewhat considerably, from the "D" ranges up to E6600 and upwards. If you do build it yourself, you could get an E6420(2.13GHz dual core, 4MB cache), 2gig RAM, motherboard, high spec graphics card, creative audigy 7.1 graphics card, case, power supply and 500GB hard drive for around the £350-400 mark. Prob £400 when you take into consideration keyboard/mouse/speakers/dvd writer.
#4
There doesn't seem to much about just at the moment - £370 for base unit matching specs at ebuyer (http://www.ebuyer.com/UK/product/125244) is cheapest I've seen but not sure if you are after dedicated graphics?
Someone was selling a similar system for £250 on the forums, so it doesn't seem a great price.
#5
thanks guys, thought about making one but its a big challenge for me finding the time, I dont need a gaming graphics card as I wont be playing games on the machine though would be nice to have teh option of upgrading at some point
#6
It probably takes less time than you think, with the advantage being you get exactly what you want. If you wanted advice on parts I and I'm sure others would be happy to help. Looking at prebuilt systems, I'd use the £370 ebuyer system as a benchmark to judge other systems around - I'm not convinced its a true bargain but it does all you require..

Bear in mind some sites have systems ready to ship, others are built to order. When do you want it by?
#7
jah128
It probably takes less time than you think, with the advantage being you get exactly what you want. If you wanted advice on parts I and I'm sure others would be happy to help. Looking at prebuilt systems, I'd use the £370 ebuyer system as a benchmark to judge other systems around - I'm not convinced its a true bargain but it does all you require..

Bear in mind some sites have systems ready to ship, others are built to order. When do you want it by?


Hi, Im in no rush so willing to wait if someone builds it for me. I am tempted by an own build so will look into many of the threads on here
#8
A self-build is very good deal at this very moment if you are prepared to put up with receiving many deliveries and really working the google-checkout system!

As an example, you could make a pretty nice system from the following:
CPU - Core 2 Duo E4300 (ebuyer qf 121407)
MEM - 2 * Kingston DDR2-512MB (91126)
MB - Asus P5VDTL-X (123837)
HDD - 250Gb Seagate SATA2 (111515)
DVD - 18x NEC DVD-RW (117543)
GFX - Radeon X1550 128MB (125188 )
Case - Antec NSK4400 (112648 )
OS - Vista Home Premium OEM (123067)

This lot would make a nice, balanced Vista machine, with dedicated graphics and very good quality case etc. If it was ordered all together it would cost about £350, but by ordering all the bits individual (except GFX and DVD on one order together) and using google-checkout everytime, price is £314 - I doub't you'll find a similar spec pre-built lower. You could easily double the ram, increase hard drive and processor for a few pounds more.
You could save a further £50 by getting a cheapo case and a motherboard with onboard graphics (which is what you'll probably get if you get a cheap pre-built system), but I think the extra is worth it for improved Vista experience and quality. I've omitted a floppy drive (£3), the motherboard has perfectly adequate sound for non-games, and a vast array of keyboards, mice and speakers are available for a few pounds if you need them. All the cables you'll need will be with the motherboard, so its really just the monitor to add and there are hundreds of deals about on this site!.
After early June the google-checkout thing will end, so bear that in mind!
#9
Well, just as a thought, here is what you would need to consider for a self build:

- Case
- PSU(power supply)
- RAM
- Motherboard
- CPU
- Heatsink and fan
- Graphics Card
- Hard drive
- DVD Rewriter
- Floppy Drive
- Monitor
- Operating System
- Soundcard
- Speakers
- Keyboard
- Mouse
- Various cables/screws(SATA data and power cables for example)

Think thats it! Obviously some parts would not be required probably for your spec - for example, you probably would not need a seperate soundcard, and possibly not a seperate graphics card(although it is advisable).

You will get significantly better value if you build your own, and it really isnt too difficult or time consuming. It would probably take me around an hour max to put together a new build. For a first time, it may take around 2 or 3 hours.
#10
Thats not a bad system from jah there...although I would say its still a bit more pricey than it could be! For example, I have just built the following system:

CPU: E6420
RAM: 2Gig Kingston RAM
Case: Ebuyer Value
Graphics: X1950Pro
HDD: Samsung SATA2 500GB
Soundcard: Audigy 7.1
Motherboard: ASRock Conroe

That set me back around £350....although I'm obviously salvaging a few bits and bobs(keyboard, mouse, DVD writer and OS).
#11
True, its possible to do it cheaper, £50 on a case is quite a lot when there are plenty for under £20 (without extra discount!). But the cheap cases are a bit of a gamble, and its nice to have a cse you'll wan't to re-use and trust the PSU when adding more things; they are also easier to build with and generally quieter... As with all things, you really do get what you pay for. Also, the OS alone is £66, but thought it would be best to include it so its a fair comparison to retail prebuilt deals.
#12
thanks guys, I might give it a go and consider it a challenge! I suppose once you have done it once it becomes alot easier after that! I do have someone to help if it goes pearshape as well as my nephew is good with this stuff. I originally intented to try and do a self build but got a little scared but its a useful skill to have!
#13
Yep jah fair point on the case and OS - neglected them! I think the important point is that you will get a substantially better deal by self building :)
#14
MrShed
Yep jah fair point on the case and OS - neglected them! I think the important point is that you will get a substantially better deal by self building :)


Im tempted to go for it, you guys really are super helpful!!
#15
No problem Berb :) its basically a 3D jigsaw! Nothing more nothing less.
#16
Dont need keyboard or mouse and I can invest in a screen later as I have a small LCD at the moment
#17
Just think carefully about where you want to spend money now, and where you may like to upgrade later. For example, it would only cost £20 or so more to go from a 250Gb to a 500Gb hard disc, or to double the memory to 2GB. If you think you might want 2GB, buy it now (as its better to have a pair of 1GB sticks than 2 pairs of 512MB). The CPU I've listed is the bottom-of-the-range Core 2 Duo but is still an absolutely cracking chip and no doubt fine for your intended use, but you can get a 6xx0 series for not too much more. Also, consider what sort of case you want - standard tower? Or perhaps something smaller, or a desktop.

3d jigsaw :giggle:
#18
thanks Jah, Ive decided if I make it myself I would rather spend the money up front and get 2gig of RAM and a 500Gb hard drive if its only £20 more for eahc of them. I dont want to keep upgrading. What would you reccommend for the RAM and HD?
#19
Hmm, sorry, may have slightly mislead you there. Cheapest 500gb from ebuyer at the moment looks like seagate 16mb version (qf 97633) but that will cost £68 delivered, sure its been cheaper recently. There are lots of 320gb and 400gb drives also in between the two. I recommend Seagate as they are quite quiet and have 5-year warranty, though most manufacturers now offer 3 yr anyway. If you really wanted to be adventurous,you could get two of the 250gb drives above and have a raid configuration...

Memory: Corsair 1024Mb XMX (qf 74116) at £28 is an absolute bargain, but you need to make the basket over £30 to get the tenner off - perhaps a mouse, cheap keyboard, some mouse mats, a power cable could be added to do this, then order 2 lots of.
Alternatively Kingston 1024Mb (qf 91121) at £31.92 is best - order two lots individually with Google checkout and super-saver delivery for £24.50 each (£49 for the 2gb pair - its £25 more than the 1gb set but well worth it for a futureproof vista system imo). Also Corsair (92879) for about the same; both are reputable brands.
#20
cheers Jah, will let you knowhow I get on!
#21
by the way, 320 will be more than enough, can always go external if needed or upgrade later on
#22
True - and you will have plenty of space for extra internal drives with said case & motherboard if you need. But the memory is worth getting now, especially for Vista. The graphics card is also probably worth getting I think, modern integrated solutions will run Aero interface but only just, and the Radeon X1550 will be much better for video playback and using on larger monitors\HDTV.

Also, don't think its been mentioned yet, but how important is it that the computer is quiet? Some equiptment is designed to perform well but at a volume, other stuff to operate as quietly as possible. I think the system outlined above should be relatively quiet, but again for a few ££ more a very quiet system can be built.
#23
so what would be a decent graphics card? I dont need it super quiet.

How do you know what fits with what motherboard if I want to do my own searches for parts
#24
That Seagate drive is a fantastic buy it must be said. And fully agree with jah on the 2GB thing. Basically, get an intel - dont get AMD at the moment. In which case you need a Socket 775 motherboard.
#25
Graphics card - as you don't expect to play many games at the moment, I think the Radeon X1550 listed above would be a great buy - its capable of playing current games at low resolutions for the occasions when you need to and will cope very well with Aero interface and any videos etc you might wish to play. You need (ideally) a 128Mb card with shader model 3 support for the full Aero interface; this card suits fine. It will also be quiet and not draw too much power, which higher-end cards will.

You could get buy with on-board video but I personally think the £25 for mentioned card would be money very well spent.

If you are looking at others, you'll want to look for a PCI-Express card (PCI-E) as opposed to AGP or old-school PCI!

I have to say personally I have been a long-term AMD fan, but recently have switched over to Core 2. I still think AMD chips hold their own at the super-budget range (under £50) but with C2D for £65 Intel are really grinding them to the bone.

As for other parts: the motherboard will need to be Socket 775 and specifically support Core 2 Duo (many cheaper motherboards are older and only support Pentium), also make sure it is PCI-Express and uses DDR-2. You can use either SATA or PATA hard drives but I'd recommend SATA as the cable routing is much better. 8MB and 16MB cache drives will perform better than 2MB versions; Seagate, Samsung, WD, Hitachi and Maxtor all now offer 3 year or longer warranty (do check the specifications of the individual drive though!) The RAM must be DDR-2 (240pin, non-ecc) and you should buy it identical pairs (ie 2 x 1GB sticks by same manufacturer for 2GB total) as it will operate in 'dual-channel' mode; 533 (PC4200) and 666Mhz (PC5400) ram is fine but generally the faster the better. You'll want a power supply that is at least 350W I'd say to give you a bit of room for future upgrades, although the quoted value is often very misleading; the 380W in the Antec case should be a high-quality power supply and markedly better than the sub-£15 jobbies available from ebuyer. DVD-RW are all pretty similar, I personally rate Lite-On and NEC but generally cheapest is fine (you can get SATA drives now for a couple of quid more, I probably wouldn't bother).
#26
Well...just cant beat that advice! Agree with everything jah has said 100% in that post!
#27
thanks Jah for your very comprehensive reply, that gives me alot more confidence in doing this...I am definetley going to go for it and probably base the machine on what you guys have reccomended as you kow what you are talking about!
#28
Good luck! :thumbsup: Just take your time choosing and building, its worth it in the long run. Feel free to ask about anything you are unsure about.

EDIT: If you're about, this is a GREAT deal on a 2GB matched pair of ram, even if I do say so myself, but it won't last long!!
http://www.hotukdeals.com/deal/29168/corsair-2gb-kit-2x1gb-ddr2-pc2-5400
#29
#30
Its not a bad deal, but you can still build better for less on own build...also I personally wouldn't buy dell :) not for any particular reason however!
#31
Ok, thanks! Still undecided, need to do some browing on ebuyer with all the reccs you guys gave me
#32
Hi guys
Hopefully you can read this table
These are the parts I have chosen and using google checkout I will be able to reduce the final price
Do I need a heatsink and fan and also a PSU with the motherboard I have chosen (well you guys chose it) and also do I need any extra cables
ThanksRob


PS Can I email you the excel files as I cant see to get the correct format in the message!
#33
Can you repost berb with them bulleted? I would also suggest posting the actual links...
#34
- Case Case - Antec NSK4400 QF112648 £45.67
- PSU(power supply) Do I need this?
- RAM Coasair 1024Mb x 2 QF92879 £54.44
- Motherboard MB - Asus P5VDTL-X QF123837 £31.29
- CPU CPU - Core 2 Duo E4300 QF121407 £63.78
- Heatsink and fan Do I need this?
- Graphics Card GFX - Radeon X1550 128MB QF125188 £24.36
- Hard drive HDD - 500Gb Seagate SATA2 QF97633 £62.97
- DVD Rewriter DVD - 18x NEC DVD-RW QF117543 £15.14
- Various cables/screws(SATA data and power cables for example)
-OS - Vista Home Premium OEM QF123067 60.98

Total price with shipping come to £421 though I can get it cheaper using google checkout, though have not worked out how much discount I would get.
Cheer
Rob
#35
MrShed
Can you repost berb with them bulleted? I would also suggest posting the actual links...


If you still need the links let me know. I am of to get some dinner, will be back shortly to continue my adventure into PC building! :-D
#36
No need for heatsink&fan, that comes with the boxed processor. The case has PSU and a good case fan. What you need to do, for the maximum discount, is order literally everything on seperate orders (so the inc vat, ex delivery ebuyer price is £30 up) then order via google-checkout with super saver delivery. Eg order the case, cpu, hdd, motherboard, os on seperate orders. The DVD and graphics card you can combine on one order to make it over £30. The RAM - order the sticks individually to get the savings.

I had no problem ordering this way, but someone has posted on another thread they got a rejection from google - though i think this is a isolated case because multiple orders were made in a matter of minutes. Ordering the things a few hours apart may be an idea - no hard evidence for this though. You will receive things throughout the next 5 days - my case arrived next day, the sub-500g parcels are royal mail and most other things citylink; it helps if you live near a citylink depot in case you miss it!
#37
OK my thoughts:

- Bear in mind your prices you have quoted exclude VAT....
- I personally would recommend a higher wattage on the PSU than the 380 with the case.
- I dont like the case - but thats aesthetics and personal preference :)
- RAM is a good choice
- I would personally suggest this mobo http://www.ebuyer.com/UK/product/119413 - about £10 more. But at low end, there isnt a load of difference to be honest....
- CPU is a decent low end choice
- You dont need a seperate HS and fan.
- Graphics card is fine for your needs, although I would be disabling the "hypermemory"
- Seagate drive is an excellent choice.
- DVD Rewriter is fine
- OS is fine - just bear in mind there are some incompatibilities with some software etc with Vista still.

My three recommendations would probably be to:

- Go for a cheaper case, with a higher wattage PSU
- Get a slightly more expensive mobo - I can vouch for the one I've put above, is an excellent motherboard.
- Perhaps get a slight better dual core processor, perhaps one of the E6xxx series.

I'm sitting wondering how its £420 when I spent about that or less for better spec, but I think thats because I havent bought the DVDRW or the OS. If you want it for music also, I would consider getting a seperate soundcard - on board soundcards are pants these days. What about a speaker system? And keyboard and mouse?
#38
Agree with jah about the parts.....I literally ordered 9 parts all on seperate orders, saving myself £90!!! (Well, about £75 when you take into account more delivery costs). Did so all in one hour, no problem with google and ebuyer accepting it.
#39
jah128
No need for heatsink&fan, that comes with the boxed processor. The case has PSU and a good case fan. What you need to do, for the maximum discount, is order literally everything on seperate orders (so the inc vat, ex delivery ebuyer price is £30 up) then order via google-checkout with super saver delivery. Eg order the case, cpu, hdd, motherboard, os on seperate orders. The DVD and graphics card you can combine on one order to make it over £30. The RAM - order the sticks individually to get the savings.

I had no problem ordering this way, but someone has posted on another thread they got a rejection from google - though i think this is a isolated case because multiple orders were made in a matter of minutes. Ordering the things a few hours apart may be an idea - no hard evidence for this though. You will receive things throughout the next 5 days - my case arrived next day, the sub-500g parcels are royal mail and most other things citylink; it helps if you live near a citylink depot in case you miss it!


Thanks jah, I am going to start ordering soon then and do it seperately, maybe do a few in my wifes name and card as well to make sure. Will let you know how much it comes to in the end
#40
MrShed
OK my thoughts:

- Bear in mind your prices you have quoted exclude VAT....
- I personally would recommend a higher wattage on the PSU than the 380 with the case.
- I dont like the case - but thats aesthetics and personal preference :)
- RAM is a good choice
- I would personally suggest this mobo http://www.ebuyer.com/UK/product/119413 - about £10 more. But at low end, there isnt a load of difference to be honest....
- CPU is a decent low end choice
- You dont need a seperate HS and fan.
- Graphics card is fine for your needs, although I would be disabling the "hypermemory"
- Seagate drive is an excellent choice.
- DVD Rewriter is fine
- OS is fine - just bear in mind there are some incompatibilities with some software etc with Vista still.

My three recommendations would probably be to:

- Go for a cheaper case, with a higher wattage PSU
- Get a slightly more expensive mobo - I can vouch for the one I've put above, is an excellent motherboard.
- Perhaps get a slight better dual core processor, perhaps one of the E6xxx series.

I'm sitting wondering how its £420 when I spent about that or less for better spec, but I think thats because I havent bought the DVDRW or the OS. If you want it for music also, I would consider getting a seperate soundcard - on board soundcards are pants these days. What about a speaker system? And keyboard and mouse?


Hi Shed
I have keyboard, mouse and speakers, yes, may look into getting a better CPU and will check out your mobo, thanks for your swift reply!

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