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Could someone please help me with an Internet question. I am in the process of buying a laptop (Chromebook probably) for a dear friend. As far as I know she does not have a broadband connection at hom… Read More
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5m, 3w agoPosted 5 months, 3 weeks ago
Could someone please help me with an Internet question. I am in the process of buying a laptop (Chromebook probably) for a dear friend. As far as I know she does not have a broadband connection at home. Other than contracting a broadband plan from Sky, Virgin etc. What would be the best solution, could I buy a dongle and get a PAYG plan, the rest of the time she would be able to use the Wifi when out and about from coffee shop, library etc. TIA
J
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5m, 3w agoPosted 5 months, 3 weeks ago
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#1
Chromebook may not be the best option for someone without a permanent connection. They really are designed to be used online primarily.

However it says here that dongles can work.
#2
best dongle plan a while ago was with 3
but do a check on the area, as i know a few people who got 3 dongles and bad areas in their town for 4g etc
#3
bluecarter
Chromebook may not be the best option for someone without a permanent connection. They really are designed to be used online primarily.
However it says here that dongles can work.
Thanks, i was looking to buy a Windows laptop, but the person that I am buying for is not really technically inclined, someone on this forum suggested a Chromebook. I look at them and i like the simplicity of it, the long battery life, plus all she will need it for is FB, sending and receiving emails, typing a few letters and general browsing. I thought of a tablet too, which I guess would work with an auxiliary keyboard. If I go the Windows route, i think that she will struggle to keep it updated and in working order.
#4
Gmail and Office apps both work fine offline on the Chromebook and have done for quite some time.
#5
Virgin Media doing broadband without phone for £18/month at the moment.
#6
how much are they willing pay for it is probably the main question what phone do they use they could tether off that maybe cheaper than a dingle or broadband if they use a phone aswell
#7
chromebook not a good idea. they really need 24/7 internet.
#8
jonnithomas
chromebook not a good idea. they really need 24/7 internet.
This is somethi
muddassarsardar
how much are they willing pay for it is probably the main question what phone do they use they could tether off that maybe cheaper than a dingle or broadband if they use a phone aswell
This is something i need to find out. It will all very new to this person, as she just about use her phone to text and call only. I need to see if her street has possibility of connecting her house to broadband, what provider she is with.
#9
jonnithomas
chromebook not a good idea. they really need 24/7 internet.

Not true at all....Office and Email apps work with no internet as does video playback from the built in video player app.

Obviously for the OP's usage requirement as per post #3 only facebook and surfing would require internet access all the time just as they would on any device.

I no longer use a Chromebook but have spent several years with one and they can certainly be used quite happily offline nowadays.
#10
Uridium
jonnithomas
chromebook not a good idea. they really need 24/7 internet.
Not true at all....Office and Email apps work with no internet as does video playback from the built in video player app.
Obviously for the OP's usage requirement as per post #3 only facebook and surfing would require internet access all the time just as they would on any device.
I no longer use a Chromebook but have spent several years with one and they can certainly be used quite happily offline nowadays.


I phrased my comment badly. yes they can be used offline but they are intended to be used online the majority of the time. things get saved to drive as soon as the internet is available. the OS is basically android although going to linux is a better option. a tablet would be a simpler/better option.
#11
Buy or use her mobile on USB tether to laptop on a sim only deal - much cheaper than landline and broadband.
My usb tether is faster than broadband
#12
jonnithomas
Uridium
jonnithomas
chromebook not a good idea. they really need 24/7 internet.
Not true at all....Office and Email apps work with no internet as does video playback from the built in video player app.
Obviously for the OP's usage requirement as per post #3 only facebook and surfing would require internet access all the time just as they would on any device.
I no longer use a Chromebook but have spent several years with one and they can certainly be used quite happily offline nowadays.
I phrased my comment badly. yes they can be used offline but they are intended to be used online the majority of the time. things get saved to drive as soon as the internet is available. the OS is basically android although going to linux is a better option. a tablet would be a simpler/better option.

you phrased that one badly as well....Chrome OS is not android based at all....

It's a Linux Kernel based OS that simply uses the Chromium browser as the user interface. Some Android apps will now run on Chrome OS due to the addition of a hypervisor .
#13
Uridium
jonnithomas
Uridium
jonnithomas
chromebook not a good idea. they really need 24/7 internet.
Not true at all....Office and Email apps work with no internet as does video playback from the built in video player app.
Obviously for the OP's usage requirement as per post #3 only facebook and surfing would require internet access all the time just as they would on any device.
I no longer use a Chromebook but have spent several years with one and they can certainly be used quite happily offline nowadays.
I phrased my comment badly. yes they can be used offline but they are intended to be used online the majority of the time. things get saved to drive as soon as the internet is available. the OS is basically android although going to linux is a better option. a tablet would be a simpler/better option.
you phrased that one badly as well....Chrome OS is not android based at all....
It's a Linux Kernel based OS that simply uses the Chromium browser as the user interface. Some Android apps will now run on Chrome OS due to the addition of a hypervisor .


idiot. don't you know that android is based upon linux ? Google’s Chrome OS is also based on Linux. Like Android, Chrome OS doesn’t provide a standard X window system, so standard Linux applications can’t run on Chrome OS or Android.

Edited By: jonnithomas on Dec 27, 2016 03:48: to add more detail.
#14
jonnithomas
Uridium
jonnithomas
Uridium
jonnithomas
chromebook not a good idea. they really need 24/7 internet.
Not true at all....Office and Email apps work with no internet as does video playback from the built in video player app.
Obviously for the OP's usage requirement as per post #3 only facebook and surfing would require internet access all the time just as they would on any device.
I no longer use a Chromebook but have spent several years with one and they can certainly be used quite happily offline nowadays.
I phrased my comment badly. yes they can be used offline but they are intended to be used online the majority of the time. things get saved to drive as soon as the internet is available. the OS is basically android although going to linux is a better option. a tablet would be a simpler/better option.
you phrased that one badly as well....Chrome OS is not android based at all....
It's a Linux Kernel based OS that simply uses the Chromium browser as the user interface. Some Android apps will now run on Chrome OS due to the addition of a hypervisor .
idiot. don't you know that android is based upon linux ? Google’s Chrome OS is also based on Linux. Like Android, Chrome OS doesn’t provide a standard X window system, so standard Linux applications can’t run on Chrome OS or Android.

I was simply pointing out that Chrome is NOT Android based as per your previous quote..."the OS is basically android" in order to remove any element of confusion for the OP.
Yes obviously I'm aware that Android is based on Linux but Chrome OS is far closer to a vanilla linux Kernel than it is Android. Not really a need to revert to playground name calling though is it......

@OP I'd suggest If possible you take your friend to a shop that sells both windows laptops and Chromebooksso perhaps they could try both and see which they get on with best, that could be worthwhile rather than buy soemthing they find overly complicated.
#15
Uridium
jonnithomas
Uridium
jonnithomas
Uridium
jonnithomas
chromebook not a good idea. they really need 24/7 internet.
Not true at all....Office and Email apps work with no internet as does video playback from the built in video player app.
Obviously for the OP's usage requirement as per post #3 only facebook and surfing would require internet access all the time just as they would on any device.
I no longer use a Chromebook but have spent several years with one and they can certainly be used quite happily offline nowadays.
I phrased my comment badly. yes they can be used offline but they are intended to be used online the majority of the time. things get saved to drive as soon as the internet is available. the OS is basically android although going to linux is a better option. a tablet would be a simpler/better option.
you phrased that one badly as well....Chrome OS is not android based at all....
It's a Linux Kernel based OS that simply uses the Chromium browser as the user interface. Some Android apps will now run on Chrome OS due to the addition of a hypervisor .
idiot. don't you know that android is based upon linux ? Google’s Chrome OS is also based on Linux. Like Android, Chrome OS doesn’t provide a standard X window system, so standard Linux applications can’t run on Chrome OS or Android.
I was simply pointing out that Chrome is NOT Android based as per your previous quote..."the OS is basically android" in order to remove any element of confusion for the OP.
Yes obviously I'm aware that Android is based on Linux but Chrome OS is far closer to a vanilla linux Kernel than it is Android. Not really a need to revert to playground name calling though is it......
@OP I'd suggest If possible you take your friend to a shop that sells both windows laptops and Chromebooksso perhaps they could try both and see which they get on with best, that could be worthwhile rather than buy soemthing they find overly complicated.


ohhh boy. I didn't say it was based upon Android. I was suggesting that it has a simplistic user interphase without a full range of facilities like windows or Linux or it's complications for the user. I said .."the OS is basically android". The reason for my saying this was that the OP had said
It will all very new to this person, as she just about use her phone to text and call only.
. So I was saying it wasn't a full OS as it was more simplistic and would be easier to use.

You then come along and muddy things by talking about kernels (btw isn't it gentoo based actually) which doesn't help the OP.
#16
Uridium

@OP I'd suggest If possible you take your friend to a shop that sells both windows laptops and Chromebooksso perhaps they could try both and see which they get on with best, that could be worthwhile rather than buy soemthing they find overly complicated.
It's kind of a surprise for our friend, so I would not like to spoil it. As I said, I initially thought about going with a normal laptop running Windows, as it is what i have always been using. But after a conversation with our friend, I think it would be a bit too much, without being disrespectful, she is not too young and is just about able to use her phone. On a Windows run computer, you always are going to have messages about updating, running virus checks etc etc. I am not saying that she could not learn, after all we all did, but I think it would just be too much to start with and she may be overwhelmed by it. As I understand (I never had one) a Chromebook kind of take care of itself and this would be perfect. If she take off with it, she could always upgrade at a later date to a full Windows-run laptop. Thanks for the input
J
#17
foes4you
Buy or use her mobile on USB tether to laptop on a sim only deal - much cheaper than landline and broadband.
My usb tether is faster than broadband
Yes this could be an option i guess, thanks
#18
Assuming she has bt for her landline then just get broadband from them. It's only £5 ish more than standard landline rental and she will have the option of having catchup TV to. Although I understand that may not get used. I would not bother messing with data networks. Just get a basic Internet package for the reliability and see how it goes.
#19
wayners suggestion seems to be the best option. from the op's description the friend wouldn't use much volume so no need for unlimited. also chromebook are happier online as that is what they were built for.

as previously stated they will work offline but not as well as it expects the internet. also windows or linux would be overkill and confusing for someone that is elderly and used to smartphone use only

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