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michelle2306 Avatar
2y, 4m agoPosted 2 years, 4 months ago
Hi this is my first post so please be kind. My daughter was on Job seekers and managed to find herself a part time job contracted 8 hours per week possibly more if people on sick/ hols etc. I was on the understanding that if you worked less than 16 hrs per week then you still got help with top up benifits? My daughter went to sign on and was told if she had a part time job then she couldn't look for work properly so she either had to quit work and find a full time job or sign off job seekers and if not she would be sanctioned is this correct how does this encourage people to find work is there anything she can do she is only on £5.03 hr?
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2y, 4m agoPosted 2 years, 4 months ago
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#1
https://www.gov.uk/jobseekers-allowance/eligibility

There's also a calculator on there worth running through with all the details.
#2
I have nothing to add but I support your quest!
#3
To be honest, I don't think the people who told your daughter this even know the ins and outs of what has actually happened.

In fact I don't even think the Government know the ins and outs of what has just happened.

Does anyone?

P.S. I do. And I have sympathy for the OP.

Edited By: NEtech on Jul 19, 2014 00:33
#4
I am sure that the advisor gave wrong information. I know someone who works 14 hrs p/w and still sign on. Gets about £20 every other week Frm JSA.
#5
Thanks but I've been on this already which made me think she was entitled but job centre says different it was the same when she was doing a part time course at college I was told I could still receive child benefit but they turned round and said she couldn't do both so she had to quit or loose CB as she had no other income coming in she had to quit with less than 10 weeks to go before her course ended so almost a year wasted with no qualifications at the end of it and she wasn't the only student that was forced to quit for same reason makes no sense to me
#6
iRuman
I am sure that the advisor gave wrong information. I know someone who works 14 hrs p/w and still sign on. Gets about £20 every other week Frm JSA.

She knows someone who was working the same as her and claiming they had to show payslip every month they had to pay £400 back because they said he wasn't entitled?
#7
She has been working for 2 weeks first week 8 hrs second week 12hrs third week expected 19hrs but this can change then back to 8 hrs I was on the understanding that they would take a percentage of the month as she is only guaranteed 8 hrs per week by the time she pays her outgoings travel etc she is left with next to nothing she loves the job and doesn't want to give it up but maybe left with no choice it has taken her 2 years to get this far
banned#8
She needs to either have a baby.... Say she's an alcoholic. ..say she's an Eastern European or say she's got a drug addiction. .. she'll be entitled to everything then. Then she can work cash in hand and receive full benefits as well as her wages. You'll find restaurants, hotels, takeaway shops, car washes, delivering Avon, delivering leaflets etc.... all pay cash hand.
Please note- I do not recommend any of my advice, it is merely what I have seen, heard or been told
#9
If your working under 16hours a week you can still claim your JSA

Source Cousin works for Job Center
banned#10
On a serious note, maybe she better finding a full time job.. Try Indeed.co.uk
Morgan Ryder
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Monster
#11
She basically fills our part time forms completing hours that she has worked and hand in copy of her payslip, she is still entitled to JSA and yes your right she will just get tipped up. Simple. If still having problems with ur local job centre and they still advise that speak to the manager as its wrong what they telling you. Hope this helps.
#12
Out*^
#13
Sounds like your advisor has no clue.

Up to 19 years of age, if still in education, you are entitled to child benefit!

Up to 16 hours of part time work you are entitled to top up benefit. The problem comes from which benefit, as it is JSA then becomes working tax credit when your hours increase.

This requires you to cancel one claim and submit another. This is why people don't always tell the benefits office the truth.

It is also why the universal system is supposed to be better......

Best of luck, you won't get your child benefit paid to you now, if you are still in doubt go to your MP!
banned#14
Henvig
Sounds like your advisor has no clue.

Up to 19 years of age, if still in education, you are entitled to child benefit!


Sorry but if you are on a part time course then you are not entitled to Child Benefit, it has to be a recognised full time course.
[helper]#15
You can try going to your local CAB as they will give you the facts and will also help you/her deal with the Jobcentre. Personally I wouldn't pay much attention to the signing on people as they never seem to know anything.
#16
look on ur local council website for the benefits advice line phone number.....she can still sign on.
dont think entitled to working tax credits until age 25.
#17
What does all this have to do with Hot Deals? Best place for this is the Money Saving Expert Forum. Lots of people on there that know about benefits.
#18
michelle2306
Thanks but I've been on this already which made me think she was entitled but job centre says different it was the same when she was doing a part time course at college I was told I could still receive child benefit but they turned round and said she couldn't do both so she had to quit or loose CB as she had no other income coming in she had to quit with less than 10 weeks to go before her course ended so almost a year wasted with no qualifications at the end of it and she wasn't the only student that was forced to quit for same reason makes no sense to me
she studied for nearly a year and then quit because she didnt get child benefit for the last 10 weeks of the course? COuldnt she have got a temporary supermarket job to make up the missing £15 or so? oO
#19
MumSaidNo
What does all this have to do with Hot Deals? Best place for this is the Money Saving Expert Forum. Lots of people on there that know about benefits.
thats why this is in the ASK section doh
#20
Where's Brilly when you need him?

King of all benefits.
#21
MumSaidNo
What does all this have to do with Hot Deals? Best place for this is the Money Saving Expert Forum. Lots of people on there that know about benefits.

LOL, thanks that gave me a laff
#22
konimitsu
Henvig
Sounds like your advisor has no clue.

Up to 19 years of age, if still in education, you are entitled to child benefit!


Sorry but if you are on a part time course then you are not entitled to Child Benefit, it has to be a recognised full time course.

You are quite right, but in education 12 hours is considered full time, I assumed the op's child was following at least 12 hours...
#23
Henvig
konimitsu
Henvig
Sounds like your advisor has no clue.

Up to 19 years of age, if still in education, you are entitled to child benefit!


Sorry but if you are on a part time course then you are not entitled to Child Benefit, it has to be a recognised full time course.

You are quite right, but in education 12 hours is considered full time, I assumed the op's child was following at least 12 hours...
yes 12.5 hrs
#24
chocci
michelle2306
Thanks but I've been on this already which made me think she was entitled but job centre says different it was the same when she was doing a part time course at college I was told I could still receive child benefit but they turned round and said she couldn't do both so she had to quit or loose CB as she had no other income coming in she had to quit with less than 10 weeks to go before her course ended so almost a year wasted with no qualifications at the end of it and she wasn't the only student that was forced to quit for same reason makes no sense to me
she studied for nearly a year and then quit because she didnt get child benefit for the last 10 weeks of the course? COuldnt she have got a temporary supermarket job to make up the missing £15 or so? oO
she been trying to get a part time job for the past 2 years to work alongside college she was doing hair dressing and barbering but has changed career to retail as there is just nothing out there she was getting nowhere with job apps as no experience and only got this job after 6 months on JSA she did a months work experience and luckily got on so well with everyone that when someone quit she was the first they went to as she still used to pop in and see how everyone was
#25
I have never been to newcastle but the way you are describing it their does not seem to be many jobs for young people.
#26
michelle2306
chocci
michelle2306
Thanks but I've been on this already which made me think she was entitled but job centre says different it was the same when she was doing a part time course at college I was told I could still receive child benefit but they turned round and said she couldn't do both so she had to quit or loose CB as she had no other income coming in she had to quit with less than 10 weeks to go before her course ended so almost a year wasted with no qualifications at the end of it and she wasn't the only student that was forced to quit for same reason makes no sense to me
she studied for nearly a year and then quit because she didnt get child benefit for the last 10 weeks of the course? COuldnt she have got a temporary supermarket job to make up the missing £15 or so? oO
she been trying to get a part time job for the past 2 years to work alongside college she was doing hair dressing and barbering but has changed career to retail as there is just nothing out there she was getting nowhere with job apps as no experience and only got this job after 6 months on JSA she did a months work experience and luckily got on so well with everyone that when someone quit she was the first they went to as she still used to pop in and see how everyone was
I still find it bizarre that taxpayers money was spent on her further education for 42 weeks and then she quit cos they stopped your child benefit in the final 10 weeks! oO

Did they reinstate your child benefit once she quit college?

Edited By: chocci on Jul 20, 2014 12:18
#27
chocci
michelle2306
chocci
michelle2306
Thanks but I've been on this already which made me think she was entitled but job centre says different it was the same when she was doing a part time course at college I was told I could still receive child benefit but they turned round and said she couldn't do both so she had to quit or loose CB as she had no other income coming in she had to quit with less than 10 weeks to go before her course ended so almost a year wasted with no qualifications at the end of it and she wasn't the only student that was forced to quit for same reason makes no sense to me
she studied for nearly a year and then quit because she didnt get child benefit for the last 10 weeks of the course? COuldnt she have got a temporary supermarket job to make up the missing £15 or so? oO
she been trying to get a part time job for the past 2 years to work alongside college she was doing hair dressing and barbering but has changed career to retail as there is just nothing out there she was getting nowhere with job apps as no experience and only got this job after 6 months on JSA she did a months work experience and luckily got on so well with everyone that when someone quit she was the first they went to as she still used to pop in and see how everyone was
I still find it bizarre that taxpayers money was spent on her further education for 42 weeks and then she quit cos they stopped your child benefit in the final 10 weeks! oO

Did they reinstate your child benefit once she quit college?
no child benefit was not reinstated once she finished as she had turned 18 she wanted to stay on at college but was finding it hard as no money coming in not even for her traveling to/from college and for getting to places to hand out her cv and go for job interview etc quitting and going on to JSA worked out better for her as it has helped her get a job in the end and hopefully go to full time but till then if she only earning £40 week and having her travel and other expenses I think she should be topped up as she working under 16 hrs like the website says but the job centre is saying different
#28
It stipulates on the Government's Jobseeker's Allowance webpage
"work on average less than 16 hours a week"

In this situation, you have to submit time sheets and pay details. The first £10 each week earned you get to keep, and the remainder is deducted from the benefits you receive. The advisor that spoke to your daughter doesn't have the correct information.

If she can not get an advisor that knows their own job, my suggestion is that you print out the following page and highlight in yellow the section about working part time hours.
https://www.gov.uk/jobseekers-allowance/eligibility

In addition, the "up to 16 hours" does not need to be in the employ of a company. I worked self employed on bit work when I was on job seekers following redundancy. All I had to do was submit written documentation of what hours I worked and what I earned.

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