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I received a juror summons in Dec asking me to show up in a few weeks time. I haven't done Jury duty before and normally i'd be excited at the prospect but the letter says the inquest is likely to las… Read More
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4m, 2w agoPosted 4 months, 2 weeks ago
I received a juror summons in Dec asking me to show up in a few weeks time. I haven't done Jury duty before and normally i'd be excited at the prospect but the letter says the inquest is likely to last for up to 10 weeks.

I called up thinking it was a typo but they confirmed it was correct, is this normal ? i'd hate to have to take that much time off work even if i'm getting paid. Has anyone experienced jury duty this long before ?
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4m, 2w agoPosted 4 months, 2 weeks ago
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#1
It is typical to be a two-week period. However, it can (& does) go (much) longer than this in some cases.

The expenses claim form states there is a cap at 200 days so, yes, a ten-week term is possible.

If you have not been a juror previously, you can ask to defer the duty for twelve months. This can only be done once so, after the twelve-month period has elapsed, you will be called again & must attend.

In twelve months time, the cases being heard at your local Crown Court may not warrant attendance for anywhere near ten weeks.
#2
Jealous. I'd love 10 weeks off work, bit make sure you take a good book and keep yourself to yourself.

They should just get the database off here as there are a lot of work shy sitting in the misc most days.
No wasted productivity days then.
#3
fanpages
It is typical to be a two-week period. However, it can (& does) go (much) longer than this in some cases.
The expenses claim form states there is a cap at 200 days so, yes, a ten-week term is possible.
If you have not been a juror previously, you can ask to defer the duty for twelve months. This can only be done once so, after the twelve-month period has elapsed, you will be called again & must attend.
In twelve months time, the cases being heard at your local Crown Court may not warrant attendance for anywhere near ten weeks.

Thanks, there was nothing in the pack i got stating i could defer. I have already sent the letter back stating i'll be attending but if it definitely is going to take 10 weeks then i might have to call up and use the defer option.
#4
It can depend on the case.
My wife was called up and had a major fraud case, she was there for well over 3 months.
On the other hand, the mother in law had a robbery and was out in 2 days.

It's the luck of the draw.

(I was called, when they asked me what my job was and I told them I was fraud investigator for EE, I was told I was 'too qualified'! and excused. The system makes no sense)
#5
bluntmachetti
Thanks, there was nothing in the pack i got stating i could defer. I have already sent the letter back stating i'll be attending but if it definitely is going to take 10 weeks then i might have to call up and use the defer option.

I expect you were asked to attend four to six weeks before the commencement date so, yes, you can contact the Court Clerk for Jurors & ask for a deferral.
#6
When you do Jury Service there isn't really a limit to the amount of cases you will sit on. If you land a murder trial or a gang injunction halfway through it may even take you over your 10 weeks.
#7
If you want to get out of it just let me know and I'll spill your HUKD username to them anonymously ;)
#8
batezy_1984
When you do Jury Service there isn't really a limit to the amount of cases you will sit on. If you land a murder trial or a gang injunction halfway through it may even take you over your 10 weeks.

This is at the Coroner's Court so it is most likely a murder. Luckily i'm running a Marathon abroad during the time period and I have been told that as long as I can show proof that i have already booked travel then I should be able to defer. So fingers crossed
#9
It'll be a inquest which is like a murder trial but only less formal. They are also typically quicker so that's a bonus!

Edited By: batezy_1984 on Jan 04, 2017 12:09: .
#10
bluntmachetti
batezy_1984
When you do Jury Service there isn't really a limit to the amount of cases you will sit on. If you land a murder trial or a gang injunction halfway through it may even take you over your 10 weeks.
This is at the Coroner's Court so it is most likely a murder. Luckily i'm running a Marathon abroad during the time period and I have been told that as long as I can show proof that i have already booked travel then I should be able to defer. So fingers crossed
I don't know much about the courts system, but isn't the Coroner's Court where they hold inquests etc?

Just read this - it suggests that it could be a death in custody case.

Serving as a juror in the Coroner's court
At most inquests, there is no jury and the Coroner makes all the decisions themselves. However, at a small number of inquests, a jury is needed. The Coroner will call a jury if a person dies in custody when the death is not clearly due to natural causes, or if their death was linked to their own or someone else's actions while at work, or to certain health and safety issues. The Coroner may also decide to use a jury in other cases because they feel it would be helpful or in the public interest.

We call members of the public to serve on the jury in the same way as other courts. They are chosen at random from the electoral register. The jurors listen to the evidence and decide on the findings of fact and the conclusion of the inquest (what is commonly known as the verdict).




Edited By: deeky on Jan 04, 2017 12:16
#11
deeky
If you want to get out of it just let me know and I'll spill your HUKD username to them anonymously ;)
Will you pay the fine ?
#12
deeky
bluntmachetti
batezy_1984
When you do Jury Service there isn't really a limit to the amount of cases you will sit on. If you land a murder trial or a gang injunction halfway through it may even take you over your 10 weeks.
This is at the Coroner's Court so it is most likely a murder. Luckily i'm running a Marathon abroad during the time period and I have been told that as long as I can show proof that i have already booked travel then I should be able to defer. So fingers crossed
I don;t know much about the courts system, but isn't the Coroner's Court where they hold inquests etc?
yup, its an inquest. but like batezy_1984 said i might be put on an endless number of inquests till the 10 week period elapses
#13
fanpages
It is typical to be a two-week period. However, it can (& does) go (much) longer than this in some cases.
The expenses claim form states there is a cap at 200 days so, yes, a ten-week term is possible.
If you have not been a juror previously, you can ask to defer the duty for twelve months. This can only be done once so, after the twelve-month period has elapsed, you will be called again & must attend.
In twelve months time, the cases being heard at your local Crown Court may not warrant attendance for anywhere near ten weeks.
My husband got called for Feb 17, he asked to defer for 12 months but he got a letter back saying he had to attend in April 17.
#14
fanpages
It is typical to be a two-week period. However, it can (& does) go (much) longer than this in some cases.

The expenses claim form states there is a cap at 200 days so, yes, a ten-week term is possible.

If you have not been a juror previously, you can ask to defer the duty for twelve months. This can only be done once so, after the twelve-month period has elapsed, you will be called again & must attend.

In twelve months time, the cases being heard at your local Crown Court may not warrant attendance for anywhere near ten weeks.
summerof76
My husband got called for Feb 17, he asked to defer for 12 months but he got a letter back saying he had to attend in April 17.

Perhaps they are particularly short of Jurors at the respective Court in April, & recalled him early.

I had the option to defer my Duty but attended when originally asked.

It is out of the way now. I can be contacted again in the future, but it is not mandatory to attend again.

In fact, one Juror I spoke to during my Duty has been called three times over 20 years (& accepted on each occasion).
#15
bluntmachetti
yup, its an inquest. but like batezy_1984 said i might be put on an endless number of inquests till the 10 week period elapses

When you are reaching the end of your two-week period, or about to sworn-in to a Jury for a case that is expected to take your over the initial two-week period, the Judge would ask you if your attendance would cause you hardship or severe inconvenience.

If you have a justifiable reason, you can be excused, either from the rest of your Service, or just from that particular case.

You can speak with the Court Clerk at any time (before, or during, your Duty period) about any issues that will affect your attendance, or ability to serve.

Edited By: fanpages on Jan 04, 2017 12:38: PS. Check the paperwork you received
#16
fanpages
fanpages
It is typical to be a two-week period. However, it can (& does) go (much) longer than this in some cases.
The expenses claim form states there is a cap at 200 days so, yes, a ten-week term is possible.
If you have not been a juror previously, you can ask to defer the duty for twelve months. This can only be done once so, after the twelve-month period has elapsed, you will be called again & must attend.
In twelve months time, the cases being heard at your local Crown Court may not warrant attendance for anywhere near ten weeks.
summerof76
My husband got called for Feb 17, he asked to defer for 12 months but he got a letter back saying he had to attend in April 17.
Perhaps they are particularly short of Jurors at the respective Court in April, & recalled him early.
I had the option to defer my Duty but attended when originally asked.
It is out of the way now. I can be contacted again in the future, but it is not mandatory to attend again.
In fact, one Juror I spoke to during my Duty has been called three times over 20 years (& accepted on each occasion).
My son was called around this time last year. He turned up for 3 days but wasn't needed.
#17
deeky
If you want to get out of it just let me know and I'll spill your HUKD username to them anonymously ;)
bluntmachetti
Will you pay the fine ?

You have probably already revealed too much information about the case, especially if somebody can determine which Court you will be attending.

I would stop giving specific details now.

The use of social media & other communication channels to discuss details of any case that you will be attending is prohibited.
#18
summerof76
My son was called around this time last year. He turned up for 3 days but wasn't needed.

I attended in person for the first five days, & stayed at home ready to be called for the second week (of five working days). I did not return to the Court building after the first week.
#19
steve1221
...(I was called, when they asked me what my job was and I told them I was fraud investigator for EE, I was told I was 'too qualified'! and excused. The system makes no sense)

...or the system works as intended, depending on the circumstances of the case on which your may have been a Juror during your Service.

If you were the accused in a fraud trial, & one of the Jurors was a fraud investigator, would you feel that you had received a fair trial?
#20
when i did a coroner jury duty which deals with cases for deaths in police custody or at hospital or prison, i was there for 2 weeks to hear the case and then because the jurors where split on the ruling it was nearly another 2 weeks of deliberations.

but we didnt start until 10.30 and finished at 3.30 and could claim /drink allowances for food purchased as well
#21
I've had to attend coroners courts on several occasions. Not a very nice experience IMO. Don't envy you at all OP.
#22
stuarthanley
I've had to attend coroners courts on several occasions. Not a very nice experience IMO. Don't envy you at all OP.
:(
#23
fanpages
bluntmachetti
yup, its an inquest. but like batezy_1984 said i might be put on an endless number of inquests till the 10 week period elapses
When you are reaching the end of your two-week period, or about to sworn-in to a Jury for a case that is expected to take your over the initial two-week period, the Judge would ask you if your attendance would cause you hardship or severe inconvenience.
If you have a justifiable reason, you can be excused, either from the rest of your Service, or just from that particular case.
You can speak with the Court Clerk at any time (before, or during, your Duty period) about any issues that will affect your attendance, or ability to serve.

This.

When I was working in London I was called up for jury service at the Old Bailey. For the first three days we all just sat around twiddling our thumbs, then on the fourth day we were called in front of the judge one at a time. We had been told the trial might last 2 months and as I had a holiday booked in 6 weeks' time I asked to be excused. Wasn't a problem. Plenty of others asked to be excused as well for various reasons. After that, those that hadn't been picked for the trial were allowed to go and that was that.
#24
If you want to get out of it you could tell the judge you're a racist and homophobic. http://m.huffpost.com/uk/entry/1873092
#25
fanpages
deeky
If you want to get out of it just let me know and I'll spill your HUKD username to them anonymously ;)
bluntmachetti
Will you pay the fine ?
You have probably already revealed too much information about the case, especially if somebody can determine which Court you will be attending.
I would stop giving specific details now.
The use of social media & other communication channels to discuss details of any case that you will be attending is prohibited.

Yeah, unfortunately the OP has already revealed the date, and the location indirectly (I don't want to name, but can be worked out) - and the type of court. The inquest is also likely to reach the headlines.

Basically, get excused as you've told HUKD way too much info.


Edited By: Firefly1 on Jan 05, 2017 00:14

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