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Due to very poor internet speeds, I currently have all my movies and tv series stored on hard drives and play them through XBMC 10.1 on an old Revo pc. They are configured using Ember Media Manager da…
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2m, 3w agoPosted 2 months, 3 weeks ago
Due to very poor internet speeds, I currently have all my movies and tv series stored on hard drives and play them through XBMC 10.1 on an old Revo pc. They are configured using Ember Media Manager data.

To save storage I now wish to play H265 files. I have tried upgrading to Kodi, but the Revo isn't capable of playing 1080p content smoothly. Also tried running it via Openelec on a USB stick, but just the same result.

Just looking for a plain and simple alternative I can plug my drives into and run Kodi. Have been looking at something like this

http://www.gearbest.com/tv-box-mini-pc/pp_471368.html

But I have no need for Android , or streaming etc.

Is there anything else I could consider? It must come with a remote or be capable of mouse control.

Thanks
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2m, 3w agoPosted 2 months, 3 weeks ago
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#1
No idea pal
#2
how much you wanting to spend ? have a look at the Nvidia Shield
#3
The problem you are experiencing could be the fact that you're encoding at H265, which whilst enabling smaller file sizes, has the caveat of more complex encoding, meaning machines have to work harder to play back the content. What is the file size difference between encoding files to H264 instead? It should handle H264 much easier without any compromises in detail.
#4
stefromuk
how much you wanting to spend ? have a look at the Nvidia Shield

Or have a look at this 3gb ram octacore box.

http://www.gearbest.com/tv-box-mini-pc/pp_503488.html?wid=21
#5
Plex just released a Kodi app...
https://www.plex.tv/apps/computer/kodi/

https://www.plex.tv/wp-content/uploads/2016/12/image-block-kodi-5-1600x1050.jpg

I presume it will be able to pick up your Hard Drive files.
If not, you may need to install Plex Media Server on a computer to stream the files to the Kodi device.

Edited By: jai47 on Dec 01, 2016 10:33
#6
Can you not plug your hard drive into your tele? I watch all my mkv's through mine
#7
how much you wanting to spend ? have a look at the Nvidia Shield
- Sorry but way more than I want to spend. The box i listed is only around the £30 mark normally.

@jpxdude - I don't encode anything, I just download (very slowly) and store on hard drives. But I notice the increasing popularity if H265 files and they are up to 50% smaller than the H264 ones I currently download.

Or have a look at this 3gb ram octacore box.
- Again too expensive. What would this do more than the Mini M8s i put the link to? All I want is a plain and simple device to play Kodi. Don't need any bells and whistles :)

'jai47 - I have no idea what Plex is, but as mentioned I have very poor wifi and doubt it would work.

'Toon-army - Don't have that capability on my TV. Have tried on a friends and all it does is list all the movies. No information is available. Hence I want to play via Kodi.
#8
davidm2009
stefromuk
how much you wanting to spend ? have a look at the Nvidia Shield
Or have a look at this 3gb ram octacore box.http://www.gearbest.com/tv-box-mini-pc/pp_503488.html?wid=21

Do not buy the above for your needs. The S912 chipset does not have any official firmware for Android 6.0 and has alot of known bugs with Plex and Kodi both of which have no official support on this chipset with android 6. Dolby/DTS support being one of the biggest issues.
#9
kedgeman
how much you wanting to spend ? have a look at the Nvidia Shield
- Sorry but way more than I want to spend. The box i listed is only around the £30 mark normally.

@jpxdude - I don't encode anything, I just download (very slowly) and store on hard drives. But I notice the increasing popularity if H265 files and they are up to 50% smaller than the H264 ones I currently download.

Or have a look at this 3gb ram octacore box.
- Again too expensive. What would this do more than the Mini M8s i put the link to? All I want is a plain and simple device to play Kodi. Don't need any bells and whistles :)

'jai47 - I have no idea what Plex is, but as mentioned I have very poor wifi and doubt it would work.

'Toon-army - Don't have that capability on my TV. Have tried on a friends and all it does is list all the movies. No information is available. Hence I want to play via Kodi.

Keep an eye out for the Linx Tablets (Win 10) they will suit your needs. If you wish to dropbox or similar an example file I can test for yourself across the 7" and 8" versions. Any H.265 files I have to try all appear to be working fine.

Edited By: cecilmcroberts on Dec 01, 2016 10:55
#10
I have an A95X box running Kodi which plays everything I throw at it including 4k stuff across my network.
Not sure what format attached drives need to be which may be an issue with large video files.
#11
Toon_army
Can you not plug your hard drive into your tele? I watch all my mkv's through mine
Probably not ones which are h265 though
#12
Kedgeman hi, I bought a box like the one you linked to: s905x based with 2gb ram and 16gb storage space. Runs kodi well on an android 6 operating system. I think you can flash libraElec on these boxes to run just kodi on these boxes. LibreElec - just enough OS to run kodi

This is the box I bought. Basically many generic boxes like this available. [url=JUSTOP® 16GB Android TV Box 6.0 Marshmallow KODI 16.1 Amlogic 2.0Ghz x4 64-Bit CPU 2GB Ram 16GB SSD 4K HEVC HDMI 802.11N WI-FI Bluetooth 4.0 (HD4K) https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B01CT16DO4/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_zfbqybYM7VY8V]kodi android bix i bought[/url] price seems to have gone up by £10 though
#13
Why do you have poor internet speeds?
Who is you ISP?
What speed are you paying for?
What are you getting?
Is it possible you speed is being (whats the word I'm looking for? grrr cant remember so I'll use) capped because of when you download or from where?
#14
Get a NAS drive on your wireless router. If you have a smart telly, you can play 1080p smoothly. I found running from my computer was no good via the smart TV but the NAS drive is superb. However, I have no issues with Kodi via a reasonably priced android box. Best thing ever
#15
I have an A95X box running Kodi which plays everything I throw at it including 4k stuff across my network.
That seems similar to the box I put a link to, so good news it plays fine.

@androidavis that also seems like the above box I was looking at. But possibly better as it has 3 USB ports. Have no idea what LibreElec is. Couldn't I just use the box as it is and play movies via Kodi?

@philphil61 - Internet speeds are low due to living in the sticks and the distance from the cabinet. Sky Unlimited, getting 3mps on a good day. Even I went with with fibre, the wifi in the house is pants due to big thick solid walls. Not interested in trying to extend it. Just use homeplugs for the Revo in the lounge

@smifta 1970 - All more expense. Surely the android box is cheaper. Plus the TV is like me - not so smart.
#16
Libreelec is a fork of openelec that all but one of the developers have moved to. It's considerably better than kodi on android. It runs faster supports variable frame rate (matches Hdmi output to the files rate) and is pretty much essential for proper audio/surround sound support.

You can dual boot libreelec from a micro sd card with android on the boxes memory or you can replace android with it on the internal mem.

I'm running it on a mk808b plus (amlogic s805 1gb) android stick and after setting up a a95x (amlogic s905x 2gb) I have two of them ordered for myself and a family member. I'd you're not really bothered about android then I think libreelec supports most s905/s905x boxes so that m8 you linked above should work. The a95x has been down as low as £25.50 and there are often deals for it and the m8 slickdeals is a good site to check for offers and voucher codes on these.

It's also refreshing to see a kodi question that isn't about dodgy add ons.

Let me know if you want more info. My few years old less powerful mk808b plus can do 16gb 1080p 7.1 master audio blu-ray rips over wifi without breaking a sweat on libreelec (android kind of works but not as smooth and no audio passthrough) and the s905x is a few generations newer.
#17
I have the M8s S812 and it struggles with hevc h265 so would be interested if the newer s905 can handle it
#18
chocci
I have the M8s S812 and it struggles with hevc h265 so would be interested if the newer s905 can handle it

Use Libreelec, my S805 stick can play any H265 I throw at it. I've just tested a 110mbps clip and it played it flawlessly. The CPU isn't even breaking 30% and I'm seeing the bitrate of that clip peak at ~150mbps for short bursts.

Something is really wrong with your setup. For reference this is what Kodi says about bitrates.

"Media players should be able play 70Mbps or better smoothly, w/o stutters for full 1080p, and 108-128Mbps for full 4K"

So my old S805 which is weaker than your S812 can handle the bitrate for 4k (they don't have any higher bitrate 1080P files or I'd test them)

I used the samples here, I did download 50mbps up to 110mbps so I could test but I started with 110mbps and it did it flawlessly. They claim you need 55mbps for a raw Blu-ray and I can play double that.
http://jell.yfish.us/

Edited By: dcx_badass on Dec 01, 2016 19:32
#19
That Mini M8S II media player is fine if your're going to use it as a straight up media player to play your movies and TV series. http://www.gearbest.com/tv-box-mini-pc/pp_503488.html?wid=21 There's a bug where Kodi will keep on crashing but this is easily fixed by going into the settings and unchecking Allow hardware acceleration - amcodec and Allow hardware acceleration - MediaCodec, leaving the middle one checked.
http://i63.tinypic.com/wm17vt.jpg
You can use the Kodi as a media player to play your files or install MX Player Pro where you can get from any torrent site (my personal preference because I prefer the interface). Here are two examples I've uploaded to Youtube using Alfawise H96 Pro+
MX Player Pro
Kodi media player





Edited By: RiverDragon8 on Dec 01, 2016 23:54: edit
#20
chocci
I have the M8s S812 and it struggles with hevc h265 so would be interested if the newer s905 can handle it
My 3rd Android TV box comes with the S905 and plays H265 no problem. Here is a video I've uploaded on Youtube
#21
RiverDragon8
chocci
I have the M8s S812 and it struggles with hevc h265 so would be interested if the newer s905 can handle it
My 3rd Android TV box comes with the S905 and plays H265 no problem. Here is a video I've uploaded on Youtube
Thanks, will add to my Xmas wish list ;)
#22
dcx_badass
chocci
I have the M8s S812 and it struggles with hevc h265 so would be interested if the newer s905 can handle it
Use Libreelec, my S805 stick can play any H265 I throw at it. I've just tested a 110mbps clip and it played it flawlessly. The CPU isn't even breaking 30% and I'm seeing the bitrate of that clip peak at ~150mbps for short bursts.

Something is really wrong with your setup. For reference this is what Kodi says about bitrates.

"Media players should be able play 70Mbps or better smoothly, w/o stutters for full 1080p, and 108-128Mbps for full 4K"

So my old S805 which is weaker than your S812 can handle the bitrate for 4k (they don't have any higher bitrate 1080P files or I'd test them)

I used the samples here, I did download 50mbps up to 110mbps so I could test but I started with 110mbps and it did it flawlessly. They claim you need 55mbps for a raw Blu-ray and I can play double that.
http://jell.yfish.us/
I need android though as I use lots of apps including Mx player as it is much better than kodi for playing my media files . Libreelec is very limited.

Edited By: chocci on Dec 02, 2016 05:04
#23
chocci
dcx_badass
chocci
I have the M8s S812 and it struggles with hevc h265 so would be interested if the newer s905 can handle it
Use Libreelec, my S805 stick can play any H265 I throw at it. I've just tested a 110mbps clip and it played it flawlessly. The CPU isn't even breaking 30% and I'm seeing the bitrate of that clip peak at ~150mbps for short bursts.
Something is really wrong with your setup. For reference this is what Kodi says about bitrates.
"Media players should be able play 70Mbps or better smoothly, w/o stutters for full 1080p, and 108-128Mbps for full 4K"
So my old S805 which is weaker than your S812 can handle the bitrate for 4k (they don't have any higher bitrate 1080P files or I'd test them)
I used the samples here, I did download 50mbps up to 110mbps so I could test but I started with 110mbps and it did it flawlessly. They claim you need 55mbps for a raw Blu-ray and I can play double that.http://jell.yfish.us/
I need android though as I use lots of apps including Mx player as it is much better than kodi for playing my media files . Libreelec is very limited.
There's been few opportunities to get a S905X 2GB/16GB box on here for £26-£30. Soon as you see one you should pull the trigger.
#24
RiverDragon8
chocci
dcx_badass
chocci
I have the M8s S812 and it struggles with hevc h265 so would be interested if the newer s905 can handle it
Use Libreelec, my S805 stick can play any H265 I throw at it. I've just tested a 110mbps clip and it played it flawlessly. The CPU isn't even breaking 30% and I'm seeing the bitrate of that clip peak at ~150mbps for short bursts.
Something is really wrong with your setup. For reference this is what Kodi says about bitrates.
"Media players should be able play 70Mbps or better smoothly, w/o stutters for full 1080p, and 108-128Mbps for full 4K"
So my old S805 which is weaker than your S812 can handle the bitrate for 4k (they don't have any higher bitrate 1080P files or I'd test them)
I used the samples here, I did download 50mbps up to 110mbps so I could test but I started with 110mbps and it did it flawlessly. They claim you need 55mbps for a raw Blu-ray and I can play double that.http://jell.yfish.us/
I need android though as I use lots of apps including Mx player as it is much better than kodi for playing my media files . Libreelec is very limited.
There's been few opportunities to get a S905X 2GB/16GB box on here for £26-£30. Soon as you see one you should pull the trigger.
Will do, thanks again
#25
chocci
dcx_badass
chocci
I have the M8s S812 and it struggles with hevc h265 so would be interested if the newer s905 can handle it
Use Libreelec, my S805 stick can play any H265 I throw at it. I've just tested a 110mbps clip and it played it flawlessly. The CPU isn't even breaking 30% and I'm seeing the bitrate of that clip peak at ~150mbps for short bursts.
Something is really wrong with your setup. For reference this is what Kodi says about bitrates.
"Media players should be able play 70Mbps or better smoothly, w/o stutters for full 1080p, and 108-128Mbps for full 4K"
So my old S805 which is weaker than your S812 can handle the bitrate for 4k (they don't have any higher bitrate 1080P files or I'd test them)
I used the samples here, I did download 50mbps up to 110mbps so I could test but I started with 110mbps and it did it flawlessly. They claim you need 55mbps for a raw Blu-ray and I can play double that.http://jell.yfish.us/
I need android though as I use lots of apps including Mx player as it is much better than kodi for playing my media files . Libreelec is very limited.
It's dual boot anyway though, boots to Libreelec by default and then it's power menu has a 'Reboot from Nand' option that puts you straight onto Android. What can Mxplayer play that Libreelec can't? Kodi is a bit spotty on android but I've not had a single thing Libreelec can't do including those insanely high bitrate h265's from earlier.
#26
dcx_badass
chocci
dcx_badass
chocci
I have the M8s S812 and it struggles with hevc h265 so would be interested if the newer s905 can handle it
Use Libreelec, my S805 stick can play any H265 I throw at it. I've just tested a 110mbps clip and it played it flawlessly. The CPU isn't even breaking 30% and I'm seeing the bitrate of that clip peak at ~150mbps for short bursts.
Something is really wrong with your setup. For reference this is what Kodi says about bitrates.
"Media players should be able play 70Mbps or better smoothly, w/o stutters for full 1080p, and 108-128Mbps for full 4K"
So my old S805 which is weaker than your S812 can handle the bitrate for 4k (they don't have any higher bitrate 1080P files or I'd test them)
I used the samples here, I did download 50mbps up to 110mbps so I could test but I started with 110mbps and it did it flawlessly. They claim you need 55mbps for a raw Blu-ray and I can play double that.http://jell.yfish.us/
I need android though as I use lots of apps including Mx player as it is much better than kodi for playing my media files . Libreelec is very limited.
It's dual boot anyway though, boots to Libreelec by default and then it's power menu has a 'Reboot from Nand' option that puts you straight onto Android. What can Mxplayer play that Libreelec can't? Kodi is a bit spotty on android but I've not had a single thing Libreelec can't do including those insanely high bitrate h265's from earlier.
I like the full features of Mx player eg. Sync audio, subtitles, subtitle searches etc etc

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