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Laptop spec for price- Help please

Agent_Silver Avatar
9y, 1m agoPosted 9 years, 1 month ago
Hi, the laptop I am working on is on it's last legs and I need to replace it....I know the spec of what I want, but I have struggled to meet it for a budget, any links to great deals greatly appreciated.

Specification I am looking for:
Core2Duo 2 GHz
17" Screen (min 1440 x 900 prefer 192o x 1200)
2 GB Ram
Geforce 8600m GT graphics (not GS)

Found a dell with the spec @ £888 less 10% and 5% quidco making it £799 and £34 quidco or £808 with the lower spec screen less 10% and quidco....I have spent three hours trying to better this anyone else do better? any help would be greatly appreciated.
Mark

I am trying to get closer to £700 -stop laughing
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9y, 1m agoPosted 9 years, 1 month ago
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#1
There are only a relatively small number of laptops with 17" displays, and a similarly small number of laptops with a decent graphics chip, you're gonna struggle to find machines to this spec at all, yet alone on a budget

If you were willing to take a slight hit on the graphics (as in, not use the machine for gaming) then you could easily look at the £600-£650 (inc) range, but you'd be looking at lower end radeons (x13xx) or (*holds nose*) intel integrated chips

An example of a lower-end radeon based machine is here

http://www.ebuyer.com/product/135191
#2
Unfortunately ability to play fairly recent games a must, can't get near the TV in my house so 360 or PS3 out of the question, my wife and kids like our wii anyway, probably go without the 17" screen to get GT graphics, ...will wait for mine to expire...have backed everything up just in case, and then hopefully prices will have come down (as they do), and I will have saved just a little more:roll:
Thanks
#3
[QUOTE=Agent_Silver]
Unfortunately ability to play fairly recent games a must


Hi, i am also looking for something my daughter can play games on, sims etc, on a tight budget.
Would also appreciate some spec's that may give me an idea what to look out for. Was told at the pcworld that shared graphics will be no good, that i need dedicated graphics. Never seen this listed in specs.
#4
Keep looking on the Dell Outlets, they have some bargains at times..
suspended#5
#6

I have one of those sat in my basket with the upgrade to GT graphics (256mb @ £40) and the integrated webcam(£29), keep checking dell outlet but no inspirons when I check...I reckon they are all with the resellers on ebay!!
Well spotted...still trying for that 17" screen...I also agree with the other poster, it is difficult to find out what graphics are installed with a lot of laptops, however, if it has dedicated graphics thats a good sign and 256mb dedicated graphics means it is probably a GT model, suitable for most recent games at medium settings (except probably Crysis!) and supports DX10.
#7
For the benefit of RoseyUK and any lurkers:

The line between dedicated and discrete graphics is very fuzzy on laptops.

On a desktop motherboard, if the graphics chip is on the motherboard (not necessarily in its own chip, could be part of the chipset) its integrated, and if its on a graphics card its discrete

On a laptop, theres no such thing as a graphics card, its just a chip: so you need some idea of whats a good chip and what isnt

What isnt

ANYTHING made by intel
ANYTHING made by via
ANYTHING made by S3

If its any good, it'll be made by either ATI or nVidia

their model numbers work similarly, but slightly differently

for nVidia, the first digit is the "series" number, with the current "series" being 8, which you only care about if you're bothered about directX 10, which the sims most definately doesn't need. The next number tells you how far up the range the chip is, the higher the better (i.e. 8600 is better than 8400) and the letters on the end depict the edition (GT is better than GS)

For ATI, the first letter is always X, then comes the series number (only up to 2, again only needed for DX10) and the next number tells you how far up the range we are (X1800 is better than X1600) letters on the end of ATI cards I think are XX and XL, with XX being the better (note: unsure on the letters)

So, when looking at graphics on laptops, look for some mention of ATI or nVidia graphics (and run a mile from intel/via/s3) and look at the number, ignoring the first digit - the higher the better.

So, the original poster wanted an nVidia (geforce) 8600GT (Mobile) chip, which is series 8 (the newest) and "6" up the range (there isnt necessarily a chip for all the numbers 1-10, and 550 is literally halfway between 500 and 600) - and the GT edition, which is a tad quicker than the GS.

if in doubt, post to a forum: theres no end of friendly geeks out there who can give you a pretty accurate picture of how a certain spec laptop will handle a certain task, purely for the warm glow of having helped :)
#8
Thankyou very much spheric, that info was really helpful, will have to copy and paste though lol
Thanks again
Rosey
#9
I bought the exact same spec as you have detailed above

core 2 duo
256mb gt card
2 gig ram

etc etc

using the 10% off dell code

however its a 15.4 inch screen- does the 1.6 inches make that much difference? ask my wife, boom boom

anyway came to about £617

before the quidco 5%

look on their website, laptops, home then spec up the inspiron 1520 to the 2ghz processor and graphics card, higher resolution for £10 then knock the 10% off

the one with £40 off works out at £10 cheaper than changing the spec on the one with the £70 off for exactly the same spec- dont know why seems strange but it does

the money off things and free delivery finish soon so be quick
#10
Thanks speric, you made that a lot clearer than I did, there is some confusion on listings where ATI particularly (can) use some of the system graphics to bolster their own on board graphics.
And yes the extra 1.6" diagonally make a huge difference, IMHO, I will just have to keep saving....quite like that Dell you can choose different resolutions for your screen, my current laptop has a high resolution (1280 x 1050 if memory serves, not widescreen) and most of the current laptops are 1400x800 which means pages look really short!
Thanks everyone for the help....I may regret this, but I am waiting to see what deals Dell have starting tomorrow, also got my eye on Dell Outlet and some of the resellers on ebay, particular ecomputers.
Mark
#11
Agent_Silver
Thanks speric, you made that a lot clearer than I did, there is some confusion on listings where ATI particularly (can) use some of the system graphics to bolster their own on board graphics.
And yes the extra 1.6" diagonally make a huge difference, IMHO, I will just have to keep saving....quite like that Dell you can choose different resolutions for your screen, my current laptop has a high resolution (1280 x 1050 if memory serves, not widescreen) and most of the current laptops are 1400x800 which means pages look really short!
Thanks everyone for the help....I may regret this, but I am waiting to see what deals Dell have starting tomorrow, also got my eye on Dell Outlet and some of the resellers on ebay, particular ecomputers.
Mark


I am also in the market for a 17" laptop but without the top spec graphics.....I have decided that the best route for me is to get a decent processor and RAM in a laptop and get a docking station to use our 17" monitor that we already have. The wife can then put up with a 15" screen if she is out and about with it!...

Any ideas on docking stations...are they generic or are they laptop specific?
#12
Docking stations are usually specific to a small group of laptop models.

Without the top spec graphics, it isn't too difficult to find decent 17" notebooks, a quick check around morgan yielded these, each one having its highlights

http://www.morgancomputers.com/shop/detail.asp?ProductID=4102&CategoryID=11&SubCategoryID=309

(which avoids vista, and is incredibly cheap)

http://www.morgancomputers.com/shop/detail.asp?ProductID=4345&CategoryID=11&SubCategoryID=345

(which gets you 2 gig of ram)

http://www.morgancomputers.com/shop/detail.asp?ProductID=4389&CategoryID=11&SubCategoryID=250

(which gets you a top brand and a rather swish design)

I'm sure other sites (which I didnt check properly) can do similar
suspended#13
#14
But the VGA is quite poor, 8400 will struggle with games.
#15
spheric
Docking stations are usually specific to a small group of laptop models.

Without the top spec graphics, it isn't too difficult to find decent 17" notebooks, a quick check around morgan yielded these, each one having its highlights

http://www.morgancomputers.com/shop/detail.asp?ProductID=4102&CategoryID=11&SubCategoryID=309

(which avoids vista, and is incredibly cheap)

http://www.morgancomputers.com/shop/detail.asp?ProductID=4345&CategoryID=11&SubCategoryID=345

(which gets you 2 gig of ram)

http://www.morgancomputers.com/shop/detail.asp?ProductID=4389&CategoryID=11&SubCategoryID=250

(which gets you a top brand and a rather swish design)

I'm sure other sites (which I didnt check properly) can do similar



Thanks a lot for your help.....I actually bought Vista for my own PC to use as a media center.....I can't see what all the fuss is about...it works perfectly..Seemed the right time to get rid of my "not so legit" copy of XP...
#16
mesmarizer


However, 15.4" screen, at that price I am back to the dell with 17" screen £728 delivered and 5% quidco...good find though for Sony fans.:thumbsup:
#17
It is definitely the graphics that are the sticking point, and with only one machine and me liking the ability to play games...Orange Box anyone? then graphics are the winner...long discussion with wife if our current one can hold out (or borrow pc from work) if can wait until January budget will be nearer £800 then I am in with a serious chance of getting what I want....it's the waiting I am not terribly good at!:whistling:
#18
Hi, can someone tell me if this is any good. Im looking for one for my daughter to store photo's, watch dvd's, download loads of sparkly stuff for her piczo site, play sims etc.

CLEVO D47K NOTEBOOK

THIS LAPTOP IS USED IN GOOD WORKING ORDER WITH 14 DAY RETURN ON THE ITEM PRICE

I HAVE BEEN PLAYING THE LATEST TOTAL WAR GAME ON IT AND IT SOUNDS GREAT

ATHLON 64 AMD 3000+

100GB HARD DRIVE

1GB RAM

17" WIDESCREEN TFT SCREEN

GREAT ONBOARD SOUND THROUGH 5.1 SPEAKERS

ATI 9700 128MB DEDICATED GRAPHICS

BUILT IN WIRELESS

3 X USB2

CARD READER

VGA PORT

PARRELLEL PORT

BUILT IN STEREO SPEAKERS

9 PIN PORT

INTERNET READY MODEM

DVDRW/CD/DVD/CDRW DVD BURNER DRIVE

BROADBAND READY LAN

THERE IS A BUILT IN CAMERA BUT I AM NOT ABLE TO FIND THE CORRECT DRIVER FOR IT

PCMCIA SLOT

BATTERY LASTS 1-2 HOURS

SUPPLIED WITH POWER ADAPTOR AND GOOD BATTERY SUPPLIED

SOFTWARE LOADED:

WINDOWS XP SP2 AND OTHER SOFTWARE WITH LICENCE KEY ON THE BASE

THIS IS A BIG POWERFUL LAPTOP AND DOES WAY QUITE HEAVY

GREAT FAST LAPTOP !!!
#19
All depends on how much. I'd pay about £200-250 for that.
#20
eripmav
All depends on how much. I'd pay about £200-250 for that.


Ok, thanks very much for your reply. If you have time can you explain why you would only pay that much. Person is asking £350 for it
#21
Basically because it's dated hardware. The specs are relatively nice, but the CPU and graphics are a wee bit lowly now.

I HAVE BEEN PLAYING THE LATEST TOTAL WAR GAME ON IT AND IT SOUNDS GREAT

That doesn't instill a great deal of confidence either:)
#22
ok thanks vampire, much appreciated.

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