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Hi all, I have been tasked with organising a printer for my church that will print monthly: ->300 double sided leaflets on 80gsm, mostly non colour - 80gsm (my monotone laser works great here) … Read More
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8m, 3w agoPosted 8 months, 3 weeks ago
Hi all,

I have been tasked with organising a printer for my church that will print monthly:

->300 double sided leaflets on 80gsm, mostly non colour - 80gsm (my monotone laser works great here)

->10 a4 sized posters - images/custom graphics 80gsm

->20 - 40 smaller flyers with images/custom graphics on heavier paper

As you see I have low volumes.

1. will a laser printer do the job (trying to avoid ink)?

2. which makes are reliable?

3. Are after market toners a false economy?

Features: Colour, full auto duplex, remote printing/ mobile device support

would like to hear about image quality, best dpi for these posters etc.

Affordable printer recommendations if you have any.

I thank you in advance for the help
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8m, 3w agoPosted 8 months, 3 weeks ago
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#1
The big HP business laser printers tend to be reliable. I have looked after many in schools and they churn out thousands of sheets in a week. They are expensive and are reliable because most of the working parts are classed as consumables. So in a colour one you would have 4 toners about £80 each, a transfer belt about £160 and the fuser unit about another £160 depending on model. As you use it you can see the counters count up to replacement time.

Once the warranty runs out it is usually worth switching to compatible toners but there is the risk of a badly sealed unit dumping loose toner deep into the machine requiring some major clean up.

What you should do is look at the cost per page figure of different printers, it's amazing what it actually cost to print a A4 page.
#2
Thank you for helping Cfcb,
I will indeed look at cost per page.
The point you make about Toner is something I have never heard of, so thank you for pointing out the possibility of getting a badly sealed unit.
Depending on the outlay I guess most people end up buying a new printer if the costs of the Fuser Unit, Transfer Belt & Drum Unit are high, I am hoping that the relative low usage will prolong the servicing of these parts.
Do you know how OKI or Brother stack up for quality?
I will check out the HP business printers too.
Regards
#3
I like the Brother black and white printers not sure about their colour ones. Only had to look after a few OKI ones but they seem ok. Stay away from the cheap Samsung colour lasers very unreliable and expensive to run and keep away from the wax based printers from Xerox as they are a real pain to look after, turn it off at the wrong time and the head get blocked and becomes impossible to clear also the wax can be scrapped of the page.
#4
Thanks Cfcb, this helps me greatly,

I have a monotone laser from Brother too, very happy indeed.
When I bought it, I had no idea that I would be taking over the promotions and advertising for the church.

Will stay away from Samsung and Xerox. Thank you.
#5
I think the proper Xerox laser printers are ok just not the wax based ones.

That's the way it goes in church, I hope they buy the toner for you. I look after the sound system and computer in our little chapel.
#6
Any particular reason you want to avoid an Inkjet printer? They're cheaper to run and better at printing images so they'd seem like the best choice here.
#7
Hi EndlesWaves,
The printer will be in use once a month, maybe once every two months.
I have had problems with clogging with every printer I have owned, even when using original inks, and I am tired of stripping the things down, soaking heads, flushing through etc. Laser = no clogging from my experience.

One more thing, if the flyers get wet, then they soon look drab with ink smudges, another consideration point, so I can distribute the flyers which are displayed in doorways or on counters knowing that they will remain in a healthy condition for longer.

Regards
#8
Hi, Looking seriously at OKI

Does anyone know if these toner casings hold the same amount of toner when fully loaded:
Toner Value Pack CMY (2,000) + K (3,500) Toner Value Pack CMY (2,000) + K (3,500) Link
Toner Value Pack CMY (5,000) + K (7,000) Toner Value Pack CMY (5,000) + K (7,000) Link

I have to buy a full set, as the starter toners are not chipped!
Just wondering if the first product is half filled?
It would certainly make buying toner then after market toner easier...

Thanks in advance


Edited By: Smosekum on Sep 03, 2016 01:24
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Smosekum
Hi EndlesWaves,
The printer will be in use once a month, maybe once every two months.
I have had problems with clogging with every printer I have owned, even when using original inks, and I am tired of stripping the things down, soaking heads, flushing through etc. Laser = no clogging from my experience.
One more thing, if the flyers get wet, then they soon look drab with ink smudges, another consideration point, so I can distribute the flyers which are displayed in doorways or on counters knowing that they will remain in a healthy condition for longer.
Regards

Can't help on the laser side (Except a free bump)...

Just be absolutely certain you want to go down the laser route. As it is for a local Church, I imagine they would want the cheapest solution.

I've got a Canon MG5350 (Now no longer manufacturered - and it cannot do A3) but it never clogs even after no use for 2 or 3 months before churning out 500 double-sided colour pages. And its inks cost £3-£4 for a set of 5 ink cartridges delivered.

Anyway my long point being - if you could find a very highly reviewed inkjet printer that is still manufactured like I did at the time, it's not totally impractical.

If on the other hand the Church don't care about money, laser is fine :p


Edited By: Firefly1 on Sep 03, 2016 01:37
banned#10
Laser/toner over ink jet every time.
#11
Thank you WonkyDoctor

Firefly, that's very interesting.

The church certainly don't have money to burn, it only just breaks even.

I will do some research on the printer model you mentioned, and see if can function and print what we need.
Very valid points, but shocked that there are people out there with the opposite experiences of a clogged printer head.
#12
just get them printed by doxdirect
#13
Thank you thecoolguy, this may be a better option for the flyers.
#14
I am currently looking at the following two options:

1. Refurbished Laser printer with a set of original cartridges where I can swap chips when empty.

2a. Printing my leaflet flyers in B/W which works very well.
2b. Printing a generic flyer smaller flyer professionally, which can accept labels which will give the details of the event.

Thank you

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