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Am i less protected selling direct through paypal?

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2y, 6m agoPosted 2 years, 6 months ago
im selling a phone on eBay. A UK seller has asked to sell via PayPal and not ebay-PayPal. Am I still protected the same amount? This way he gets a cheaper item and I make more . Thanks
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2y, 6m agoPosted 2 years, 6 months ago
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Lets put ths to bed , bank transfer buyer isn't goi g to do ths as if he does you pocket the money ( no fees at all) then ifyou do es end the phone then he has no protection you keep the phone and have all the money and there's nothing at all that he can do. So that's a no no no no , if paying by just Paypal you must and I say must ask for there PayPal address and you put in a request for the money. If you send your email address to him ifhe USA scammer he will send you a fake PayPal page where it will show that payment has been made and it's ok to send item So you end up sending phone out and giving scammer your money and you have been scammed. So in essence you MUST get thir email address and never give them yours for them to reqeest cash. You only request it then your safe and protected with PayPal and cannot get scammed hope this helps

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#1
Oh I will be sending special delivery tracked
banned#2
It depends on how they pay it but don't use paypal gift as less protection. Personally I would just wait for another buyer and let Ebay take their 10% and guarantee that you are covered with more protection. How are you going to make more? I assume the buyer wants a discount to buy without Ebay so how much extra are going to make? Is it worth it? That is up to you.
#3
Do not believe (of the top of my head) that you get any kind of protection at all in that situation. The protection for seller comes through the eBay side of things.

Some requests are genuine, but all to often, a request to circumvent the eBay link is specially to remove the eBay seller protection from the equation.
#4
Yes he want to pay less. But I will still be a 15 better off
#5
Ask him to do a bank transfer.
#6
Ask him to pay via goods in paypal, list the item in the note section (ie iPhone 32gb) and take video/photos of it writing & packing & send it tracked & signed for. Check the papal seller protection& follow it, you'll be fine. Be aware that now in the uk buyers have 180 days to file a dispute, do he coyote have 5 months of use & demand a refund.

Edited By: dancedar on Jul 21, 2014 08:36: .
#7
Usually if they are asking you to move off Ebay and perform the trade elsewhere - its because in some ways they are trying to scam you.

You seem to be focused on the small possibility that you will profit, but sadly, if it is a scam then you will lose all.

Err on the side of caution.... Stick with Ebay.... Report them to ebay as a trickster and take the next offer....

One bit of advice above rings problems with me and should not be listened to - ''Ask him to do a bank transfer.''

In no circumstances give your bank details to anyone you do not know or trust - it could certainly come back and bite you in the culo!
#8
Lucifer_UK
Usually if they are asking you to move off Ebay and perform the trade elsewhere - its because in some ways they are trying to scam you.

You seem to be focused on the small possibility that you will profit, but sadly, if it is a scam then you will lose all.



Err on the side of caution.... Stick with Ebay.... Report them to ebay as a trickster and take the next offer....

One bit of advice above rings problems with me and should not be listened to - ''Ask him to do a bank transfer.''

In no circumstances give your bank details to anyone you do not know or trust - it could certainly come back and bite you in the culo!

You obviously don't realise bank transfer is the safest method of accepting payment then. What can anyone do with your sort and account number other than pay in. Plus it can't be reversed like paypal.
#9
ScubaDudes
Lucifer_UK
Usually if they are asking you to move off Ebay and perform the trade elsewhere - its because in some ways they are trying to scam you.

You seem to be focused on the small possibility that you will profit, but sadly, if it is a scam then you will lose all.


Err on the side of caution.... Stick with Ebay.... Report them to ebay as a trickster and take the next offer....

One bit of advice above rings problems with me and should not be listened to - ''Ask him to do a bank transfer.''

In no circumstances give your bank details to anyone you do not know or trust - it could certainly come back and bite you in the culo!

You obviously don't realise bank transfer is the safest method of accepting payment then. What can anyone do with your sort and account number other than pay in. Plus it can't be reversed like paypal.

They can sign up for a direct debit, so never give out this information. ScubaDudes, post yours here and see what happens. Paypal is the safest but against ebay rules. Really if you follow PayPal you'd be fine. Send it tracked, requiring a signature. If for some reason they say not as described & you've photo evidence they'll have to return it at their expense before you refund



Edited By: dancedar on Jul 21, 2014 18:59
#10
If someone signs you up to a Direct Debit the bank send you a letter, you tell the bank it wasn't you, bank make sure you lose know money. You do realise account numbers and sort codes were on cheques (old school!).

Paypal do offer protection, so you're just about as if you sold on EBay (ie not 100%).

Chances are just a buyer trying to save a buck...
#11
Go with Bank transfer. no reversal,no issues with paypal refusing refunds after 30 days and no fees.

Edited By: arachnoid on Jul 21, 2014 20:37
#12
if the transaction started on ebay, you'll have a hard time claiming seller protection from PayPal even if you used the paying for goods method. reason is, ebay owns paypal so they have access to each other's records. they will easily see that the transaction originated on ebay, and that you flouted their T&Cs which specifically say you cannot do this and still be protected. So i wouldn't risk it. As other's have said, if he directly transfers money to your account, then you'll be fine as this can't be reversed, whereas a paypal payment can, and often is.
#13
dancedar
ScubaDudes
Lucifer_UK
Usually if they are asking you to move off Ebay and perform the trade elsewhere - its because in some ways they are trying to scam you.

You seem to be focused on the small possibility that you will profit, but sadly, if it is a scam then you will lose all.


Err on the side of caution.... Stick with Ebay.... Report them to ebay as a trickster and take the next offer....

One bit of advice above rings problems with me and should not be listened to - ''Ask him to do a bank transfer.''

In no circumstances give your bank details to anyone you do not know or trust - it could certainly come back and bite you in the culo!

You obviously don't realise bank transfer is the safest method of accepting payment then. What can anyone do with your sort and account number other than pay in. Plus it can't be reversed like paypal.

They can sign up for a direct debit, so never give out this information. ScubaDudes, post yours here and see what happens. Paypal is the safest but against ebay rules. Really if you follow PayPal you'd be fine. Send it tracked, requiring a signature. If for some reason they say not as described & you've photo evidence they'll have to return it at their expense before you refund



you can't be signed up for a direct debit without knowing a lot more information about someone than simply their account number and sort code.
#14
fuhu78888
dancedar
ScubaDudes
Lucifer_UK
Usually if they are asking you to move off Ebay and perform the trade elsewhere - its because in some ways they are trying to scam you.

You seem to be focused on the small possibility that you will profit, but sadly, if it is a scam then you will lose all.


Err on the side of caution.... Stick with Ebay.... Report them to ebay as a trickster and take the next offer....

One bit of advice above rings problems with me and should not be listened to - ''Ask him to do a bank transfer.''

In no circumstances give your bank details to anyone you do not know or trust - it could certainly come back and bite you in the culo!

You obviously don't realise bank transfer is the safest method of accepting payment then. What can anyone do with your sort and account number other than pay in. Plus it can't be reversed like paypal.

They can sign up for a direct debit, so never give out this information. ScubaDudes, post yours here and see what happens. Paypal is the safest but against ebay rules. Really if you follow PayPal you'd be fine. Send it tracked, requiring a signature. If for some reason they say not as described & you've photo evidence they'll have to return it at their expense before you refund



you can't be signed up for a direct debit without knowing a lot more information about someone than simply their account number and sort code.
Wrong. Remember what happened to Jeremy Clarkson?
#15
Lets put ths to bed , bank transfer buyer isn't goi g to do ths as if he does you pocket the money ( no fees at all) then ifyou do es end the phone then he has no protection you keep the phone and have all the money and there's nothing at all that he can do. So that's a no no no no , if paying by just Paypal you must and I say must ask for there PayPal address and you put in a request for the money. If you send your email address to him ifhe USA scammer he will send you a fake PayPal page where it will show that payment has been made and it's ok to send item So you end up sending phone out and giving scammer your money and you have been scammed. So in essence you MUST get thir email address and never give them yours for them to reqeest cash. You only request it then your safe and protected with PayPal and cannot get scammed hope this helps
#16
dancedar
fuhu78888
dancedar
ScubaDudes
Lucifer_UK
Usually if they are asking you to move off Ebay and perform the trade elsewhere - its because in some ways they are trying to scam you.

You seem to be focused on the small possibility that you will profit, but sadly, if it is a scam then you will lose all.


Err on the side of caution.... Stick with Ebay.... Report them to ebay as a trickster and take the next offer....

One bit of advice above rings problems with me and should not be listened to - ''Ask him to do a bank transfer.''

In no circumstances give your bank details to anyone you do not know or trust - it could certainly come back and bite you in the culo!

You obviously don't realise bank transfer is the safest method of accepting payment then. What can anyone do with your sort and account number other than pay in. Plus it can't be reversed like paypal.

They can sign up for a direct debit, so never give out this information. ScubaDudes, post yours here and see what happens. Paypal is the safest but against ebay rules. Really if you follow PayPal you'd be fine. Send it tracked, requiring a signature. If for some reason they say not as described & you've photo evidence they'll have to return it at their expense before you refund



you can't be signed up for a direct debit without knowing a lot more information about someone than simply their account number and sort code.
Wrong. Remember what happened to Jeremy Clarkson?

nope? show me a form where you can sign up to direct debit with only the person's account number and sort code (no name, address, bank address, signature details).

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