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Can anyone tell me whether all the Lightwave RF products to be used with Alexa need the hub? I wanted to purchase the 3 smart plugs, but I can't actually see anywhere that states you need the hub. I…
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1m, 2w agoPosted 1 month, 2 weeks ago
Can anyone tell me whether all the Lightwave RF products to be used with Alexa need the hub? I wanted to purchase the 3 smart plugs, but I can't actually see anywhere that states you need the hub. If I don't then great, but I have a feeling that it will need.

Anyone had experience with Lightwave RF products and Alexa?

Thank you in advance!
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I don't have the LightwaveRF but I have been doing extensive research on it as I'm looking at getting the dimmer switches (I have 20 spot lights downstairs which with Hue spot lights will cost way too much so looking into LightwaveRF) and also plug sockets (as Wemo or HS100 are constantly out of stock or I miss them).

You do need the LightwaveRF link to be able to communicate with anything LightwaveRF enabled. Echo will not communicate to them without the Hub and the LightwaveRF skill.

The hub itself was £67 once but I can't seem to find for cheaper than £80 anywhere which I think is quite expensive as could get the Energenie hub + power plugs for £60.

Edited By: The_IMF on Jan 12, 2017 14:24

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I don't have the LightwaveRF but I have been doing extensive research on it as I'm looking at getting the dimmer switches (I have 20 spot lights downstairs which with Hue spot lights will cost way too much so looking into LightwaveRF) and also plug sockets (as Wemo or HS100 are constantly out of stock or I miss them).

You do need the LightwaveRF link to be able to communicate with anything LightwaveRF enabled. Echo will not communicate to them without the Hub and the LightwaveRF skill.

The hub itself was £67 once but I can't seem to find for cheaper than £80 anywhere which I think is quite expensive as could get the Energenie hub + power plugs for £60.

Edited By: The_IMF on Jan 12, 2017 14:24
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I thought that was the case. I did see the hub itself is £80 everywhere which is a bit crazy, but then I guess once you have it you don't need another one.

I have the Energenie starter pack on order (like 3 weeks ago) which due to be delivered today only to be told it will not be the 24th due to stock issues, but that can't be guaranteed!! :-( It seems absolutely everywhere has no stock, which I assume is because its such good value when you think the hub alone is around £45-£50 if not more in some places.

Philips Hue is working out way too much money, plus I would rather have plugs and switches then the bulbs themselves.

Wemo is quite expensive, plus the smart plugs make a double socket useless because they are so big.

Guess I will just have to wait it out on my Energenie product, and hope the Lightwave RF link drops in price.

Thanks for your response!
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Edgar1806
I thought that was the case. I did see the hub itself is £80 everywhere which is a bit crazy, but then I guess once you have it you don't need another one.
I have the Energenie starter pack on order (like 3 weeks ago) which due to be delivered today only to be told it will not be the 24th due to stock issues, but that can't be guaranteed!! :-( It seems absolutely everywhere has no stock, which I assume is because its such good value when you think the hub alone is around £45-£50 if not more in some places.
Philips Hue is working out way too much money, plus I would rather have plugs and switches then the bulbs themselves.
Wemo is quite expensive, plus the smart plugs make a double socket useless because they are so big.
Guess I will just have to wait it out on my Energenie product, and hope the Lightwave RF link drops in price.
Thanks for your response!

I'm in the same boat as you! I managed to score some GU10 bulbs for £13.50 each from alza.co.uk, they took 10 days to arrive but now they've put the price back up to £35 a bulb. Wish I had bought 50 and sold 30 on fleabay to make up for the cost :D

I'd prefer light switches to bulbs too... but LightwaveRF dimmer switches (2 gang) are £60!!

I haven't yet found out if Energenie switches are dimmable or not yet. They had one in Sainsbury for £50 according to stock levels but they couldn't find it so I assume someone nicked it. I haven't found a dimmable switch for the Energenie yet which is the only thing preventing me from buying it.

Even considered getting a broadlink as that communicates to the cheaper switches and can control TV etc as well for a sub £30 hub but then you have to do some jiggery pokery and apparently have a phone that's constantly on and taking commands for it to work with Echo which put me off.

Pretty sure all this kit has gone up in price since the Echo integration!
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The_IMF
Edgar1806
I thought that was the case. I did see the hub itself is £80 everywhere which is a bit crazy, but then I guess once you have it you don't need another one.
I have the Energenie starter pack on order (like 3 weeks ago) which due to be delivered today only to be told it will not be the 24th due to stock issues, but that can't be guaranteed!! :-( It seems absolutely everywhere has no stock, which I assume is because its such good value when you think the hub alone is around £45-£50 if not more in some places.
Philips Hue is working out way too much money, plus I would rather have plugs and switches then the bulbs themselves.
Wemo is quite expensive, plus the smart plugs make a double socket useless because they are so big.
Guess I will just have to wait it out on my Energenie product, and hope the Lightwave RF link drops in price.
Thanks for your response!
I'm in the same boat as you! I managed to score some GU10 bulbs for £13.50 each from alza.co.uk, they took 10 days to arrive but now they've put the price back up to £35 a bulb. Wish I had bought 50 and sold 30 on fleabay to make up for the cost :D
I'd prefer light switches to bulbs too... but LightwaveRF dimmer switches (2 gang) are £60!!
I haven't yet found out if Energenie switches are dimmable or not yet. They had one in Sainsbury for £50 according to stock levels but they couldn't find it so I assume someone nicked it. I haven't found a dimmable switch for the Energenie yet which is the only thing preventing me from buying it.
Even considered getting a broadlink as that communicates to the cheaper switches and can control TV etc as well for a sub £30 hub but then you have to do some jiggery pokery and apparently have a phone that's constantly on and taking commands for it to work with Echo which put me off.
Pretty sure all this kit has gone up in price since the Echo integration!

Without question everything has gone up in price since the Echo. Everyone wants it, but now no one can afford it!!

Look at Samsung Smart Things........£200 for Hub / Motion Sensor / Multi Sensor / Presence Sensor / Power Outlet. Seriously, thats just robbery! I would rather pay £25 for 3 Energenie plugs and get multiple packs then pay £200 for not a lot. I can't actually believe people are paying it though. Its not worth half that!

I may look into this broadlink you mention. Plenty of info on the internet to be able to set it up no doubt, and happy to have cheaper switches if it works with Echo. Eventually the price of home automation stuff will have to drop, as it just won't sell as they hope..........well thats my theory anyway (with fingers crossed it actually happens! haha)
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So i just went ahead and ordered by Broadlink RM Pro from Amazon for under £30. Seems the RM Pro is the latest version and not the Pro 2. Weird I know, but thats how it is. This one supports wifi as well as RF and IR signals.

Anyway, got a great video of a guy giving instructions how to set it up, got an old android tablet as a bridge, a couple of old RF plug sockets, so im good to go tomorrow! Let the home automation begin!!

Think I may cancel my energenie order if this works perfectly and get cheap RF sockets instead!
#6
Edgar1806
So i just went ahead and ordered by Broadlink RM Pro from Amazon for under £30. Seems the RM Pro is the latest version and not the Pro 2. Weird I know, but thats how it is. This one supports wifi as well as RF and IR signals.
Anyway, got a great video of a guy giving instructions how to set it up, got an old android tablet as a bridge, a couple of old RF plug sockets, so im good to go tomorrow! Let the home automation begin!!
Think I may cancel my energenie order if this works perfectly and get cheap RF sockets instead!

Nice one!!

Let me know how it goes as I'm still in two minds. It's annoying when someone uses the main switch for the lights that have my hue bulbs in them so it'd be good if I could turn the switch on via RF, although that might get confusing as to what command echo would send. I guess I could sell my 4 hue down lights for about £100ish on fleabay and use that to buy RF dimmer switches to cover all 20 down lights!

Remember that your android device needs to be plugged in 100% of the time and some devices can explode etc... maybe get a device which will work with the mains and no battery plugged in. I do remember people selling android tv boxes (that have no batteries) for sub £20 that I was planning on using if I went this route.
#7
Update!!

Got my broadlink RM pro this morning, downloaded the Control app, paid £3.99 for the broadlink tasker, and using an old RF remote plug socket I can now control my floor lamp with my voice!!! THE FUTURE IS HERE!!!
#8
Definitely cancelling my energenie order. It's just not needed now as I can get RF plugs cheaper as it just works perfectly! £30 well spent and thank you Amazon Prime for my free trial to get next day delivery!! Now to look for Lightwave RF stuff!! :D
#9
Edgar1806
Update!!
Got my broadlink RM pro this morning, downloaded the Control app, paid £3.99 for the broadlink tasker, and using an old RF remote plug socket I can now control my floor lamp with my voice!!! THE FUTURE IS HERE!!!

Nice one!

The ONLY thing stopping me from doing this and getting LightwaveRF stuff instead is that I can set dim level on LightwaveRF switches but I can't on the regular RF switches (the dimmable ones are dim manual up or down so voice won't work). If I can't find the stuff at a reasonable price, I'll be following in your footsteps :D
#10
Another update!!!

I can now turn on my two floor lamps using RF plugs either individually or together depending on the command. I can now turn on my TV and turn it off including the Sky using macros. I can now turn on the Xbox (because it isn't CEC-HDMI compatible) and switch the amp to the correct function using a macro again and the turn it off and switch back to the sky function, again using macros. And now I just set up a macro to turn off everything. You just say "Alexa turn ****** on" or off.

As long as you are happy to play around with the tasker and setup macros and stuff, there really isn't anything it can't do. I'm super impressed by it....the missus is a bit sick of me constantly taking to Alexa....haha...but she is also impressed by it.

I found on eBay these LED RF light switches, starting from £10 for a one gang to £18 for a 3 gang. They come in black or white, look very fancy and will work in the same way with the Broadlink. We aren't fussed about dimmers as we have lamps if we don't want the main light on. Here is the link for eBay.......
http://m.ebay.co.uk/itm/1-Way-1-2-3-Gang-Crystal-Glass-Remote-Panel-Touch-LED-Light-Switches-Controller-/291517294122?nav=SEARCH

I will have my whole house set up using RF. As these light switches have a remote I can make the Broadlink learn the buttons. This is by far the most affordable way to do it and works just like the others!!

Also, screwfix have 5 RF plugs for just over £20. You cant go wrong. I'll be getting them soon to place around the house!
#11
Edgar1806
Another update!!!

I can now turn on my two floor lamps using RF plugs either individually or together depending on the command. I can now turn on my TV and turn it off including the Sky using macros. I can now turn on the Xbox (because it isn't CEC-HDMI compatible) and switch the amp to the correct function using a macro again and the turn it off and switch back to the sky function, again using macros. And now I just set up a macro to turn off everything. You just say "Alexa turn ****** on" or off.

As long as you are happy to play around with the tasker and setup macros and stuff, there really isn't anything it can't do. I'm super impressed by it....the missus is a bit sick of me constantly taking to Alexa....haha...but she is also impressed by it.

I found on eBay these LED RF light switches, starting from £10 for a one gang to £18 for a 3 gang. They come in black or white, look very fancy and will work in the same way with the Broadlink. We aren't fussed about dimmers as we have lamps if we don't want the main light on. Here is the link for eBay.......
http://m.ebay.co.uk/itm/1-Way-1-2-3-Gang-Crystal-Glass-Remote-Panel-Touch-LED-Light-Switches-Controller-/291517294122?nav=SEARCH

I will have my whole house set up using RF. As these light switches have a remote I can make the Broadlink learn the buttons. This is by far the most affordable way to do it and works just like the others!!

Also, screwfix have 5 RF plugs for just over £20. You cant go wrong. I'll be getting them soon to place around the house!


​After seeing the price of lightwaverf and nobody have any to sell for cheap, I may have to follow your route. I worked out about £500 to go the Lightwaverf route!

Think some of these regular RF switches need a neutral though which I need to be careful of...
#12
do the ones in the eBay listing require a neutral? or are they like the light wave ones?
#13
No. just connect the neutral to the metal backing box. You put the Common into L, and if like me it's a double switch then you just put both together, then use L1 and L3 for the lights. Mine works great, looks good on the wall, the touch works really well and using the supplied remote I have set it up for Alexa via Broadlink.
#14
My switches only have the live, switched live and earth in them, so there is no neutral present so these are compatible.

I dont have Alexa but was considering Google home when and if it becomes available here, because I have a nest thermostat and use chromeasts and chromecast audios to stream google play music, i'm not sure Alexa is compatable with these.

the light switches look very good but couldn't find a 2 gang 2 way version to control the usual landing light configuration

The broadlink looks an excellent device for £29.99, food for thought just need to convince my non-geek Mrs of its place in our house.

Thanks
#15
Who knows when Google Home will make its way to the UK. That could be some time still. It took the Echo two years to make it over the pond!

The switches are very nice. The glass touch panel is really good to use, so I am pleased (so is the missus!!).

There are 2 gang 2 way versions on ebay........here.......http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1-2-3-Gang-2-Way-Modern-Crystal-Glass-Touch-Sensor-Light-Wall-Switch-LED-Panel-/111759464575?var=&hash=item1a0562187f:m:mzS-VN0WpzL3cEhcegRHbnQ
They are a bit more expensive then the 1 way, but still cheaper then Lightwave RF switches. This link has 1/2/3 gang 2 way switches. I need a 3 way 2 gang for the hall to control the upstairs light as that is the only 2 way in the house, but I will get another Amazon Echo dot and then do that. The living room was the first to control and that is pretty much done now with everything I want it to do.

The Broadlink is such a good device, and I would say better than the Logitech Harmony Hub at a fraction of the cost. Its about the size of the Echo dot if not a little bit bigger, but its very discreet. Mine sits on a bookcase shelf next to Alexa at the back of the room so the IR points to the TV, Sky and Xbox to turn them on.

Its a worthy investment and far far cheaper this way then getting all these WIFI bulbs and hubs. Its the difference between a £100 and a £500 setup for the same thing!

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