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ValiantSaint Avatar
8y, 3m agoPosted 8 years, 3 months ago
Hi everyone, I've just brought one of the Dell Quad Cores from Tesco

http://www.hotukdeals.com/item/212053/dell-quad-core-tesco-for-299-or-jus/showthread.php?t=212053&page=23

and I'm in need of a half-decent GFX card to run in it. I have seen a lot of conflicting reports on here about which mid-range card is best (8800gt, 9800gt or ATI 4850) Which one would you all suggest? Bear in mind that the PC's only running a 375w Power supply...................

I have found this one: http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=GX-071-OK

Would that run ok in that PC?

I don't really want to spend more than £100 (inc P&P) on one if possible.

Many thanks :)
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8y, 3m agoPosted 8 years, 3 months ago
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#1
among all the cards mentioned above, ATI 4850 is the least power - hungry , approx.110W (peak) and the most powerfull (significantly faster than 8800/9800gt).However, you will struggle to get it for £100 delivered.

You should consider urgent replacement of PSU if you go for nvidia ie.THAT.It's been manufactured by FSP so be sure, your desktop will be treated well ;D.

Personally, I would go for ATI 4850 but everything depend on your needs - smaller monitor/lower resolution/older games does not all the power.
#2
7777777
among all the cards mentioned above, ATI 4850 is the least power - hungry , approx.110W (peak) and the most powerfull (significantly faster than 8800/9800gt).However, you will struggle to get it for £100 delivered.

You should consider urgent replacement of PSU if you go for nvidia ie.THAT.It's been manufactured by FSP so be sure, your desktop will be treated well ;D.

Personally, I would go for ATI 4850 but everything depend on your needs - smaller monitor/lower resolution/older games does not all the power.



I agree to what you said totally but due to the drivers you get better Framerate with the 9800, and i will be buying the ATI when i get my next card in the next few months.
#3
7777777
among all the cards mentioned above, ATI 4850 is the least power - hungry , approx.110W (peak) and the most powerfull (significantly faster than 8800/9800gt).


Do you have a source for that? I'm kind of suspicious that it'd have a power draw exactly the same as it's TDP and I've never seen anyone else claim that it's lower power than the 8800GT. There are some empirical measurements here and while they don't cover startup and are based on a single situation they do show the 8800GT using 26.5W less than the 4850.
#4
So does anyone think that the 8800gt that I posted is worth buying? Thanks for your help BTW :)
#5
Well I would go for the 4850 or the 3850/3870 at the moment!! The Nv9800 and 8800GT are good buys. but for soem reason I just feel Nv is pushing oldish technology. There are some gerat deals to be had on the 3850 as well!!
#6
EndlessWaves
Do you have a source for that? I'm kind of suspicious that it'd have a power draw exactly the same as it's TDP and I've never seen anyone else claim that it's lower power than the 8800GT. There are some empirical measurements here and while they don't cover startup and are based on a single situation they do show the 8800GT using 26.5W less than the 4850.


Regarding the 110W of ATI 4850 - I have read it a while ago .Sorry, I have not got the magazine with me , what's more it was not even in English though tables would be clear anyway.

However, xbitslabs.com has the same results
http://www.xbitlabs.com/images/video/ati-radeon-hd4850/hd4850_power.gif

Other services 12 do not seem to notice the incredible level of efficiency of 8800gt :) .

So, depends who pays for the tests ;) ATI or nVidia is better...
#7
7777777
However, xbitslabs.com has the same results
http://www.xbitlabs.com/images/video/ati-radeon-hd4850/hd4850_power.gif

Fair enough.

7777777

Other services 12 do not seem to notice the incredible level of efficiency of 8800gt :) .

So, depends who pays for the tests ;) ATI or nVidia is better...


Uh, none of those tests include the 4850, and the power consumption is entire system power consumption rather than xbitlab's card power consumption so without further data I'm not sure how you can say that it depends.
#8
Having some imagination and basic math skills I can compare the entire system with results of individual graphic cards.

System with 8800GT needs additional 115W to get from 'idle' to 'peak' power consumption while the power bracket (between idle and peakagain ) for ATI 4850 is approx. 70W.Thus, ATI might save approx.45W every hour spent playing games.

Obviously, I assume that both cards have the same needs while 'idle' (should be close to truth) and media does tell the entire truth (I am not so sure ;)).

So , apart from the indisputable advantage in performance of ATI over nVidia,ATI also saves you money and care more about environment :D

...if results of the same card differ from one service to another, I might also assume that we do not know as much as we should to carry out the debate.However, taking into account a very strong marketing of nVidia, (and although I very respect them) - IMHO I believe their results, statistics will be biased more often ;)
#9
7777777
Having some imagination and basic math skills I can compare the entire system with results of individual graphic cards.

System with 8800GT needs additional 115W to get from 'idle' to 'peak' power consumption while the power bracket (between idle and peakagain ) for ATI 4850 is approx. 70W.Thus, ATI might save approx.45W every hour spent playing games.

Obviously, I assume that both cards have the same needs while 'idle' (should be close to truth) and media does tell the entire truth (I am not so sure ;)).

So , apart from the indisputable advantage in performance of ATI over nVidia,ATI also saves you money and care more about environment :D

...if results of the same card differ from one service to another, I might also assume that we do not know as much as we should to carry out the debate.However, taking into account a very strong marketing of nVidia, (and although I very respect them) - IMHO I believe their results, statistics will be biased more often ;)


So if the 4850 is the less power hungry, are there any good deals on them at the moment? And will it even fit in an Dell Inspiron 530 tower? Thanks again :)
#10
7777777
Having some imagination and basic math skills I can compare the entire system with results of individual graphic cards.

System with 8800GT needs additional 115W to get from 'idle' to 'peak' power consumption while the power bracket (between idle and peakagain ) for ATI 4850 is approx. 70W.Thus, ATI might save approx.45W every hour spent playing games.


The system with the 8800GT needs 115W more in load than in idle, that includes the load difference for the CPU, motherboard, memory etc. Assuming you're talking about the Bjorn3d link then they're using a Q6600 and the rest of the system could be using up 75W of that under load.

The 4850 is undoubtedly the faster card, but it certainly seems to use more power. OcUK have got some 8800GTs for under £80 at the moment, but I don't know what their cheapest delivery is. I don't know who's got the cheapest 4850s.
#11
EndlessWaves
The system with the 8800GT needs 115W more in load than in idle, that includes the load difference for the CPU, motherboard, memory etc. Assuming you're talking about the Bjorn3d link then they're using a Q6600 and the rest of the system could be using up 75W of that under load.

The 4850 is undoubtedly the faster card, but it certainly seems to use more power. OcUK have got some 8800GTs for under £80 at the moment, but I don't know what their cheapest delivery is. I don't know who's got the cheapest 4850s.


Many thanks. I'll pick up a 8800gt from OcUk :thumbsup:

EDIT: Sorry I've just seen this card on Ocuk:

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=GX-101-OK

Would it be worth buying a 9800gt over an 8800gt? Is there any difference at all?
#12
Well the 9800GT has HybridPower which allows it to be turned off entirely when not in use and the integrated motherboard graphics used instead which is very nice, however as it's currently only supported by some AMD motherboards and as you've bought an intel CPU'd system that particular feature is of no use to you.

The performance is much the same as an 8800GT so whether you go for that one depends on whether you feel that the completely silent cooling is worth the extra money.

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