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Hi I regretfully bought cheap ethernet cable from ebay a while ago and it seems to be giving me problems such as dropped connections and very slow transfers over the local 1gb network. Everything … Read More
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2y, 5m agoPosted 2 years, 5 months ago
Hi

I regretfully bought cheap ethernet cable from ebay a while ago and it seems to be giving me problems such as dropped connections and very slow transfers over the local 1gb network. Everything else, such as hardware or software settings have already been ruled out

I'm now looking for good quality cat5e, cat6 or cat6a ethernet cable as cheap as possible. I need either two cables in 10m and a 15m sizes or maybe one in 25m which I can then make myself.

Can anyone please help?
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2y, 5m agoPosted 2 years, 5 months ago
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#1
Have you got a TLC electrical in your area. They always seem good on price for Ethernet cable if you don't mind making your own.

http://www.tlc-direct.co.uk/Main_Index/Cable_Index/Computer/index.html
#2
Unfortunately not.

I had a look at the site...are you sure these are good quality cables?

Also I know I originally said 5e, but I'm now thinking to pay a bit more and go with a good quality cat6 or cat6a. I'm getting 100mbps on a 1gb lan due to poor quality ethernet cabling.
#3
Well from my experience I've had no problems. Speed has been fine and even one I installed at the in laws house going outside to feed the office is still going strong after 2 years which is good with the weather in this country. Mind you the window cleaner likes to tug on it sometimes.
#4
ive not had an issue with http://www.comms-express.com
#5
simonbalaam
Well from my experience I've had no problems. Speed has been fine and even one I installed at the in laws house going outside to feed the office is still going strong after 2 years which is good with the weather in this country. Mind you the window cleaner likes to tug on it sometimes.

mrwhitelabel
ive not had an issue with http://www.comms-express.com

Thanks for the info and link. Mind if I ask what speeds your getting when transferring files over LAN? What's the make and type of ethernet you guys are using?

What can you recommend from the website link you've given?
#6
They do max 10m I believe in premade patch

http://m.comms-express.com/products/cat6a-sstp-booted-patch-leads/

But if want to make your own your looking at a 100m reel
http://m.comms-express.com/products/cat6-utp-pvc-solid-cable-100mt-grey/
Thats for internal use only though not external.
Make sure you get cat 6 rj45 end connectors too not use cat 5 ones

I'm away at no so can't check speeds, but certainly no issue shifting 6x 3mp IP cameras in to a NVR and then HDMI out from it over cat 6 to multiple live monitor points in full HD


There is also http://www.kenable.co.uk/

Your cable is solid copper isn't it not CCA ? http://www.cetecglobal.com/technologies/cabling/cca.htm




Edited By: mrwhitelabel on Jan 11, 2015 08:41
#7
I'd go for Cat 5e over Cat6 as it's a lot more forgiving for bending and anything faster in the future will most likely be moving towards optical again due to cable costs. Also make sure you only get solid for socket to socket runs, if you're planning on crimping connectors then use stranded due to connector fatigue if plugging unplugging a lot. CCA should be banned as it's no good for anything but 100mbit.
#8
thanks again for the links and info.

@ mrwhitelabel - I have no idea what my cable is other than Cat5e as I bought it off ebay and it's wired internally under the floor. Although I already have the tools and rj45 end connectors, I'm thinking because the readymade cable is so cheap, I might be better buying them ready-made.

@ kester76 - Is that right? I've been told to buy 6 or 6a because they can handle upto 10 gigabit connections making them more futureproof whereas 5e is now pretty old.


I'm totally baffled by the terminology and not sure, what bootless, sstp, patch, utp etc are and what I should go for. If possible, could you recommend one for me from kenable website?



Edited By: frogbog on Jan 11, 2015 12:06: edited
#9
My 10m cables came from screwfix. Had no problem with them. Seems some sellers on eBay make leads by hand to order so have you considered buying a kit to make your own up?
#10
I should of added that you won't have problems streaming high definition content around house on cat5 cable although I would avoid joining cables if you can.
#11
Hi wayners, I already have a kit to make my own cables. It's the quality of wiring that seems to be very poor and thats why I'm looking at getting a high quality, thick, shielded Ethernet cable.
#12
frogbog
thanks again for the links and info.

@ mrwhitelabel - I have no idea what my cable is other than Cat5e as I bought it off ebay and it's wired internally under the floor. Although I already have the tools and rj45 end connectors, I'm thinking because the readymade cable is so cheap, I might be better buying them ready-made.

@ kester76 - Is that right? I've been told to buy 6 or 6a because they can handle upto 10 gigabit connections making them more futureproof whereas 5e is now pretty old.


I'm totally baffled by the terminology and not sure, what bootless, sstp, patch, utp etc are and what I should go for. If possible, could you recommend one for me from kenable website?



Just take a look on Ebay for 10Gbit Ethernet adapters. Lots of Fibre NICs but only seen the Dell Broadcom 57810 which is RJ45 but rare. I think cat 6 will lose the way against SFP+ Fibre not sure about SFP+ Copper but I've been wrong before about a lot of things :3

Check out http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/10_Gigabit_Ethernet

For good 10Gbe transfers I guess you would have to buy a shielded cable and shielded connectors that would be a nightmare.
#13
Thanks kester76. I'm not willing to shell out hundreds of pounds for 10gbit adapter, but simply wanted a Cat6 or above just incase I decide to upgrade. I have now purchased this CAT6A cable for £7.99 on amazon and from reviews it sounds just perfect.

Edited By: frogbog on Jan 11, 2015 19:25
#14
Lets us know how it turns out pls.
#15
I most definately will Flynn...does that mean your looking for ethernet cable too?
#16
frogbog
Thanks kester76. I'm not willing to shell out hundreds of pounds for 10gbit adapter, but simply wanted a Cat6 or above just incase I decide to upgrade. I have now purchased this CAT6A cable for £7.99 on amazon and from reviews it sounds just perfect.

No problems, anything that isn't run through walls isn't much of a problem with cat 6. My problem was I had quite a lot of blind corners when pushing the Ethernet cable through a dab & dot wall. Works good as I get 100MB+ transfer rates across my switch. Premade patch leads should pretty much be up to the spec they quote but making your own is another thing all together.
#17
kester76
frogbog
Thanks kester76. I'm not willing to shell out hundreds of pounds for 10gbit adapter, but simply wanted a Cat6 or above just incase I decide to upgrade. I have now purchased this CAT6A cable for £7.99 on amazon and from reviews it sounds just perfect.
No problems, anything that isn't run through walls isn't much of a problem with cat 6. My problem was I had quite a lot of blind corners when pushing the Ethernet cable through a dab & dot wall. Works good as I get 100MB+ transfer rates across my switch. Premade patch leads should pretty much be up to the spec they quote but making your own is another thing all together.

My property has crawling space under the floor, so it should be pretty much straight forward. The only problem is getting the connectors through the floorboards themselves.
#18
frogbog
kester76
frogbog
Thanks kester76. I'm not willing to shell out hundreds of pounds for 10gbit adapter, but simply wanted a Cat6 or above just incase I decide to upgrade. I have now purchased this CAT6A cable for £7.99 on amazon and from reviews it sounds just perfect.
No problems, anything that isn't run through walls isn't much of a problem with cat 6. My problem was I had quite a lot of blind corners when pushing the Ethernet cable through a dab & dot wall. Works good as I get 100MB+ transfer rates across my switch. Premade patch leads should pretty much be up to the spec they quote but making your own is another thing all together.

My property has crawling space under the floor, so it should be pretty much straight forward. The only problem is getting the connectors through the floorboards themselves.
I'd just drill :) My house is a new build and was a nightmare even with rods and all the rest of the kit. I bought 6A Gbe CCA cable and just swapped it to Cat 5e shielded. Pulling cables in walls for the 1st time is harsh :(
#19
why did you change the cable type? What was the issue with the Cat 6a?
#20
I've used Belkin Snagless and I highly recommend it:

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Belkin-Snagless-Patch-Cable-Black/dp/B0001I8ZEY

Available in 10m and 15m in a variety of colours.

Good luck!
#21
DistortedVision
I've used Belkin Snagless and I highly recommend it:http://www.amazon.co.uk/Belkin-Snagless-Patch-Cable-Black/dp/B0001I8ZEY
Available in 10m and 15m in a variety of colours.
Good luck!

Thanks for the link. Unfortunately it's a bit late as I've already ordered the Duronic Cat6a 15 FTP cable.
#22
frogbog
why did you change the cable type? What was the issue with the Cat 6a?
The issue was that it was Copper Coated Aluminium and it tends to break very easily and degrades fast but this was off a 350m reel. A good 6a patch lead will be fine as it will be solid copper, making your own patch leads just isn't worth the hassle now.

This is crap cable http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/305M-RJ45-CAT6e-CCA-Ethernet-Network-LAN-UTP-Patch-Roll-Reel-Cable-Boot-Boots-/201173277418?pt=UK_Computing_NetworkingCables_RL&hash=item2ed6dc9aea

This is good cable http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/3M-CAT6A-S-FTP-SHIELDED-SYSTEM-CABLE-LSZH-500M-REEL-WHITE-VOL-10SFL4-500-WE-/111550949196?pt=UK_Computing_NetworkingCables_RL&hash=item19f8f4674c

Just a bit of difference in price.
#23
kester76
frogbog
why did you change the cable type? What was the issue with the Cat 6a?
The issue was that it was Copper Coated Aluminium and it tends to break very easily and degrades fast but this was off a 350m reel. A good 6a patch lead will be fine as it will be solid copper, making your own patch leads just isn't worth the hassle now.
This is crap cable http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/305M-RJ45-CAT6e-CCA-Ethernet-Network-LAN-UTP-Patch-Roll-Reel-Cable-Boot-Boots-/201173277418?pt=UK_Computing_NetworkingCables_RL&hash=item2ed6dc9aea
This is good cable http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/3M-CAT6A-S-FTP-SHIELDED-SYSTEM-CABLE-LSZH-500M-REEL-WHITE-VOL-10SFL4-500-WE-/111550949196?pt=UK_Computing_NetworkingCables_RL&hash=item19f8f4674c
Just a bit of difference in price.

Actually the poor quality cable in your first link is exactly the rubbish I bought originally. However I've now ordered from Amazon the Duronic Cat6a 15 FTP cable which is supposed to be of much higher quality and with a feedback of almost 2000 people with most rating it 4-5 stars, it should be great.

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/61Lg9ba2PJL._SL1024_.jpg
http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51krdk85uSL._SL1024_.jpg
http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/61EywB4EbiL._SL1024_.jpg
#24
frogbog
kester76
frogbog
why did you change the cable type? What was the issue with the Cat 6a?
The issue was that it was Copper Coated Aluminium and it tends to break very easily and degrades fast but this was off a 350m reel. A good 6a patch lead will be fine as it will be solid copper, making your own patch leads just isn't worth the hassle now.
This is crap cable http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/305M-RJ45-CAT6e-CCA-Ethernet-Network-LAN-UTP-Patch-Roll-Reel-Cable-Boot-Boots-/201173277418?pt=UK_Computing_NetworkingCables_RL&hash=item2ed6dc9aea
This is good cable http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/3M-CAT6A-S-FTP-SHIELDED-SYSTEM-CABLE-LSZH-500M-REEL-WHITE-VOL-10SFL4-500-WE-/111550949196?pt=UK_Computing_NetworkingCables_RL&hash=item19f8f4674c
Just a bit of difference in price.

Actually the poor quality cable in your first link is exactly the rubbish I bought originally. However I've now ordered from Amazon the Duronic Cat6a 15 FTP cable which is supposed to be of much higher quality and with a feedback of almost 2000 people with most rating it 4-5 stars, it should be great.

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/61Lg9ba2PJL._SL1024_.jpg
http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51krdk85uSL._SL1024_.jpg
http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/61EywB4EbiL._SL1024_.jpg

The cable looks good, have you bought a switch yet ?
#25
I already have a TP-LINK SG1008D 1gb 8 port switch.
#26
Hello again!

As promised, here is my update. I've received the Duronic Cat6A ethernet cable (15m) and what a MASSIVE improvement! I used to get only a max of 11mb/sec lan transfer. But it's now on average around 85mb/sec, but on most occasions it exceeds the 100mb/sec !!!

http://s10.postimg.org/x1q7nm6h5/Image2.jpg

http://s10.postimg.org/r22gjylop/Image1.jpg

The cable compared to the old one is of very high quality and thick like a coaxial/satellite cable.

Originally I was worried that it might be the tp-link switch, but that fear was unfounded as this cable has resolved all issues.

I hope this helps and I highly recommend this cable for it's value for money.
#27
frogbog
Hello again!

As promised, here is my update. I've received the Duronic Cat6A ethernet cable (15m) and what a MASSIVE improvement! I used to get only a max of 11mb/sec lan transfer. But it's now on average around 85mb/sec, but on most occasions it exceeds the 100mb/sec !!!

http://s10.postimg.org/x1q7nm6h5/Image2.jpg

http://s10.postimg.org/r22gjylop/Image1.jpg

The cable compared to the old one is of very high quality and thick like a coaxial/satellite cable.

Originally I was worried that it might be the tp-link switch, but that fear was unfounded as this cable has resolved all issues.

I hope this helps and I highly recommend this cable for it's value for money.
Switches are pretty rapid. I had a issue using my routers as one would overheat and disconnect :) One day I get round to seeing what all the smart features do as I got a rude awakening when it came Qos on a Switch instead of a Router.
#28
cca is the cable equivalent of cheap fake sd cards

a misleading waste of money
#29
Couldn't agree more... Does this mean you will be ordering this cable then?
#30
no im quite happy with what ive got at the moment - solid core cat 6 going places then terminated to boxes with stranded premade patch to devices. have approx 50m left should i need it.
I did look at cca when i was in the market for some, attracted by prices, scared away by reviews
#31
You say hardware and software issues have been ruled out, but if you are limited to 100mb over your GB network I really think you need to recheck this. If you are using Cat5 then you should have no issues with higher speeds pushing towards 1GB as long as your connections are good.

By all means replace your cables as this is a cheap enough solution, you may have a bad cable, but Cat5 is not the problem and will cater for your needs.

EDIT:

Lol, just read the second page. Glad to see you resolved it with a new cable. :)


Edited By: NEtech on Jan 14, 2015 22:39
#32
@ mrwhitecable - Your right in saying that cat5 can handle 1gbit, but my cat5 cable was cheap and nasty type bought off ebay and also had some slight damage too.

@ netech - it's not only resolved the issue, but is much more faster in transfers too.
#33
Oh btw, i forgot to ask... Where can i get cheap ethernet wall sockets from?? I need two or three. Do screwfix sell them?? I've got a £5 voucher with screwfix

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