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I have been promoted at work just before Christmas and been given a fairly substantial pay increase compared to the minimum wages I was on previously, this also meant I was being topped up with housin… Read More
Daddio Avatar
3m, 4w agoPosted 3 months, 4 weeks ago
I have been promoted at work just before Christmas and been given a fairly substantial pay increase compared to the minimum wages I was on previously, this also meant I was being topped up with housing and council tax benefit.

I am going to have to go to the benefits office when I receive my next wages and show them evidence of my new income. Problem is that as I don't receive a physical pay slip and will have to print it off they will want to see my bank statements showing the money going in. Unfortunately the statement will also show a tax rebate I received for last years marriage tax allowance that I applied for as well as a backdated amount for this year which will show on my pay slip.

I was wondering in advance whether the council will claim the Marriage Tax Allowance from me.
Daddio Avatar
3m, 4w agoPosted 3 months, 4 weeks ago
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#1
If you owe it to them because you weren't entitled to it then they will, if you don't they won't
#2
if they have overpaid you because you earnt more that you told them you were expected too, they will claim it back.
however... if you are on such a high wage, i very much doubt you will be entitled to any housing benefit or council tax benefit anyway (i earn 18k and i don't recieve anything ) if you aren't enetitled to anything , they wont need to see any statements - you just simply cancel your benefit claim?

Edited By: nicwalsall on Jan 21, 2017 10:01: sp
#3
I maybe wrong but I always thought that your employers had to give you at least a printable wage slip so can you not print off wage slip and show them that
#4
I know I'm going to have a change in benefits due to wage increase. My question was about the Marriage Tax Allowance rebate I received.
#5
scaryvonne
I maybe wrong but I always thought that your employers had to give you at least a printable wage slip so can you not print off wage slip and show them that


I do get an online printable payslip, but as it's a printed copy and not a physical payslip the council ask to see a bank statement showing proof of the amount going in matches the printed payslip.
#6
Will depend when rebate was for. If it was last year's income they shouldn't but if for this current year they will want some back as earned too much to qualify
#7
Argoj
The back dated marriage tax allowance is income so they will take this into account regardless.
#8
I did an online benefit calculation based on the wages I'd be on and it showed that I'd still receive some benefits. I do have 2 children as well which may be the reason.
Otherwise it works out that I'd be getting exactly the same income at the end of everything, which makes you wonder if it's worth the extra responsibility and stress, especially where I work.
#9
As far as I understand they will take into account all income, this may include any tax rebate. Best be upfront with the council as they will have access to this sort of information anyway.
#10
Daddio
I did an online benefit calculation based on the wages I'd be on and it showed that I'd still receive some benefits. I do have 2 children as well which may be the reason.
Otherwise it works out that I'd be getting exactly the same income at the end of everything, which makes you wonder if it's worth the extra responsibility and stress, especially where I work.


Surely it's worth it purely to be self sufficient and not rely on benefits?
#11
Be careful, my brother owes hundreds because council wrongly said he was entitled to some housing benefit when his wage went up. Turned out he wasn't and is now struggling because he has to pay them extra on top of his rent even though it was their mistake. You've got to be on pretty low wages to get housing benefit.
#12
Daddio
I did an online benefit calculation based on the wages I'd be on and it showed that I'd still receive some benefits. I do have 2 children as well which may be the reason.
Otherwise it works out that I'd be getting exactly the same income at the end of everything, which makes you wonder if it's worth the extra responsibility and stress, especially where I work.


There is always someone that expects something for nothing! You have two kids, provide a future for them man! Don't expect every other tax payer to do it for you. If your not prepared to be self sufficient and pay for the kids...then where a condom and don't have them in the first place!
#13
You will at least be expected to pay this amount back...? although this is slightly ambiguous as the current Tax/Financial Year doesn't end until April 4th 2017 - and I thought benefits reductions etc were based on finalised annual income?

" .....will also show a tax rebate I received for last years marriage tax allowance that I applied for as well as a backdated amount for this year which will show on my pay slip".
#14
andyb83
Daddio
I did an online benefit calculation based on the wages I'd be on and it showed that I'd still receive some benefits. I do have 2 children as well which may be the reason.
Otherwise it works out that I'd be getting exactly the same income at the end of everything, which makes you wonder if it's worth the extra responsibility and stress, especially where I work.


Surely it's worth it purely to be self sufficient and not rely on benefits?


In an ideal world the answers yes. But not when you realise that the upper management are so damn incompetent and you've got to try and pick up the pieces when new processes are implemented that they haven't planned properly in advance. Oh well it's extra money and gets us off the benefits ladder I keep telling myself.
#15
stitchnelson
Daddio
I did an online benefit calculation based on the wages I'd be on and it showed that I'd still receive some benefits. I do have 2 children as well which may be the reason.
Otherwise it works out that I'd be getting exactly the same income at the end of everything, which makes you wonder if it's worth the extra responsibility and stress, especially where I work.


There is always someone that expects something for nothing! You have two kids, provide a future for them man! Don't expect every other tax payer to do it for you. If your not prepared to be self sufficient and pay for the kids...then where a condom and don't have them in the first place!


Hey you damn jerk, I was just asking a question. And by the way I have been working full time but was only on minimum wage. Therefore I was getting a top up from benefits due to the low wage not being up to the cost of living. So I suggest you get off your high horse and maybe think first before you criticise. I don't expect something for nothing, if wages were better people wouldn't need help with benefits.

Edited By: Daddio on Jan 21, 2017 12:48: Error
#16
Unfortunately, the council will claim the money back as they would have paid you less benefit if you had declared the rebate. They take all income into consideration when making their calculations.
#17
Daddio
andyb83
Daddio
I did an online benefit calculation based on the wages I'd be on and it showed that I'd still receive some benefits. I do have 2 children as well which may be the reason.
Otherwise it works out that I'd be getting exactly the same income at the end of everything, which makes you wonder if it's worth the extra responsibility and stress, especially where I work.


Surely it's worth it purely to be self sufficient and not rely on benefits?


In an ideal world the answers yes. But not when you realise that the upper management are so damn incompetent and you've got to try and pick up the pieces when new processes are implemented that they haven't planned properly in advance. Oh well it's extra money and gets us off the benefits ladder I keep telling myself.


But think of the future, this promotion could lead to another and another and so on until one day you may make it up to incompetent management level where you will earn even more income and not even have to think about the benefits system anymore. :D
#18
Dyslexic_Dog
Daddio
andyb83
Daddio
I did an online benefit calculation based on the wages I'd be on and it showed that I'd still receive some benefits. I do have 2 children as well which may be the reason.
Otherwise it works out that I'd be getting exactly the same income at the end of everything, which makes you wonder if it's worth the extra responsibility and stress, especially where I work.


Surely it's worth it purely to be self sufficient and not rely on benefits?


In an ideal world the answers yes. But not when you realise that the upper management are so damn incompetent and you've got to try and pick up the pieces when new processes are implemented that they haven't planned properly in advance. Oh well it's extra money and gets us off the benefits ladder I keep telling myself.


But think of the future, this promotion could lead to another and another and so on until one day you may make it up to incompetent management level where you will earn even more income and not even have to think about the benefits system anymore. :D


Lol, I do aspire to make it all the way up the ladder to incompetent management level. They've even got a conference room with a mini fridge full of pompous fizzy water and cans of orange juice.
#19
andyb83
Daddio
I did an online benefit calculation based on the wages I'd be on and it showed that I'd still receive some benefits. I do have 2 children as well which may be the reason.
Otherwise it works out that I'd be getting exactly the same income at the end of everything, which makes you wonder if it's worth the extra responsibility and stress, especially where I work.


Surely it's worth it purely to be self sufficient and not rely on benefits?


exactly ....now he knows
#20
scaryvonne
I maybe wrong but I always thought that your employers had to give you at least a printable wage slip so can you not print off wage slip and show them that
You are right. IF and only IF you are an employee then you have a legal right to have a wage slip.
#21
I have worked for several companies that do NOT provide hard-copy payslips...saves on postage etc. I print mine off from the system if needs be - saves losing or misplacing payslips too ;)
tardytortoise
scaryvonne
I maybe wrong but I always thought that your employers had to give you at least a printable wage slip so can you not print off wage slip and show them that
You are right. IF and only IF you are an employee then you have a legal right to have a wage slip.
#22
The marriage allowance is not an income, it is a reduction of the amount of tax you are liable to pay based on the fact that your spouse can transfer part of their unused tax allowance to you. As far as I understand it your rebate should not be taken into account as far as benefits are concerned. Check with CAB or the benefits advisor at your local council.
#23
People are getting evicted because of delays in Councils processing housing benefits claims and people are getting housing benefit claims stopped for any reason, including a malicious allegation by a third party. The minions that work for these departments often don't know the rules themselves. As a previous post said, go to the CAB first, before you tell the Council.
You are supposed to tell the Council of any change in circumstances, but check with someone like the CAB first.
#24
Splodger101
I have worked for several companies that do NOT provide hard-copy payslips...saves on postage etc. I print mine off from the system if needs be - saves losing or misplacing payslips too ;)
tardytortoise
scaryvonne
I maybe wrong but I always thought that your employers had to give you at least a printable wage slip so can you not print off wage slip and show them that
You are right. IF and only IF you are an employee then you have a legal right to have a wage slip.

I said you have a legal right to have a wage slip if you are an employee.
I did not say you have a legal right to a hard copy wage slip.
In the circumstances you quote the employer is satisfying their legal requirement by providing a digital wage slip which you may choose to print or not.
This may all seem pedantic to you but the law is usually very pedantic.
#25
You have not told them that your take home wages have increased due to you claiming the marriage tax allowance. They the council can go back 6yrs or more in some cases for claiming over payments back. If your take home pay went up by say £2 per week they will take £1.70 of that £2 back off you between the housing benefit & council tax you and let you keep 30p of the £2.

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